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I have contacted Thai Visa Express, and probably will use Paul. More expensive but more trustworthy. Just waiting for some details from my friend in Thailand, then will forward it off to TVE Thank you.

Looking at applying for a UK Visitor visa for my friend in Patong to visit UK in August for a few weeks, no problems at my end regard sponsorship and accommodation. Asked 2 visa agents in 1 in Bangkok, with an office in Phuket and 1 in Patong, both insisting she need to travel to Bangkok British embassy, but i thought it was done by VFS in Phuket? Plus Bangkok is 12 hours by bus so she will lose 3 days work. 1 agent said they will accompany her to the Embassy but visa fees not included making them very expensive, and other does include fees, and based only 15 minutes walk from her work. I would try to do it myself but worried if i make a mistake on the forms, and she doesn't have an email address yet, think of setting 1 up solely for visa application that we can both use? So does she have to go to Bangkok Embassy? or just use VFS in Phuket? Thanks in advance?

Another factor is my age, I want to stop working in 5 or 6 years before i am 65 years old. I will be having some savings soon, and thanks to the last 2 posters for positive comments. Regards payments i thginkshe is making what she can afford to pay, just got back and I think I get the impression, apart from being deeply in love with me becuase she seems so caring and kind, always holding my hand and her smile is beaming after a few days with me, she wants to escape Thailand. Going back over in June and hopefully have news about visa for her, and her divorce being finalsed.

A quick update for all the doubters and naysayers. Turned up unexpected on Monday, she is working, see me at table and yelped and starts crying. Runs over and hugs me saying I am a week early. I had already booked a room in hotel opposite for 1 night with option to extend. Any way we are in Karon and talking. And the best part is her debt. 150000 baht I could pay it off and she pay me back. But I want her to pay the debt her self if she was to move to England. She says something about reconciliation of debt. Her English is not the best Planning for visitors visa in August for 2 months.

I think it is because she has no one close there, And again i tried to ask about the debt, not to pay it off but if there was any help . She said again it is credit card, and she will pay it of her self. I won't help her out financially. Maybe see if there is help available. But I do think she is either being very clever, or is not very smart person, immature I would say.

Thanks, as you say i am taking my time. Being cautious, and rereading messages. . I feel it is at least 75% true, trying to put pieces together as I go on. The main thing is trust, which for me is hard due my past relationships. But the one thing is she has not asked me for any money, or had a single baht off me yet, since the meal when I first saw her. And has offered to pay for meals when we are out a few times. Offered next time I visit later this year, we go and visit Kalasin, but she doesn't want to go back she says.

Met 3 times in last year, with 1 week alone together. Keep in touch every day.

Again thanks Mike, I feel comfortable in her company when we are together, but i am also in my mind questioning her replies to me, 99% are good, rest maybe because of translation and also my past trust of women. Again I am keeping an open mind, ready to drop and block all contact if anything is wrong.

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Thanks Mike, but I am approaching 60 and time I feel is not on my side. I am doing what I can, and google translate is good on transcribe 😉 only people she did speak to was her friend and a work colleague , her boss i think. Nothing to worry about after I re-read the transcripts. But me being me, I still have a very tiny bit of doubt in my mind, say 1%. Bearing in mind I have had a couple bad experiences in past with women.

Did she have any assets in Thailand? Or was the lob being still open enough? Thanks

myself i prefer a bit more meat to hold on to, but not large, or skinny

It will be interesting to see her reaction. I am keeping an open mind. Also meeting with another friend who is on holiday there. So won't be a wasted journey if it doesn't go well. But this time staying in Karon. May as well try different places.

I will have access to savings in a few years time. I don't have a mortgage any more and own my house. Meant to add why no savings as I put a lot of my wages into pension pot via salary sacrifice, and paid of mortgage last as well. I am not making any decisions until I go over in March, awaiting to see her reaction when I show up unexpectedly. At present I am not 100% committed yet, until I know her better as well. Yes she may be trying to con me. Or she may be genuine, a lonely woman with no family to help her. But I am making sure I won't be taken advantage of again.

Thank you, maybe i should have worded my question better? And sorry if I offended anyone. But it was the way i got initial replies, thinking that I would have practical advice? Before I went Thailand I heard all about the bargirls and other scams, massages etc, I experienced it but didn't fall into that trap. Regardless of the girls motive, I was just looking for any possible answers in the long term. I didn't go to Patong looking for love, or sex for that matter. Just to get away from a few things at home. And visit Thailand, something I have always wanted to do. And also Patong isn't really my scene, a few day maybe for the experience. Try to avoid the center, beach, bangla road area when I visit there. Prefer Old Town. And my number 1 concern is the debt, I don't want it to bite me on the arse, and I think she may not get a visitor visa to UK. But looking forward to surprising her in a couple of months, will get a better idea from her response when I show up unexpectedly.

She told me today she is going to Bangkok on monday with her friend, to get her divorce sorted she said. No mention of needing any funds from me to help her out, not that i offered. ( I am part Scottish!) Also had a holiday planned to Portugal cancelled in a few weeks, so I may take an unexpected 5 nights trip to Thailand, looking at staying in Karon, and making a surprise trip to Patong one day. Again, head not heart. And not all Thai girls are sex workers, or all Thais rip off merchants. Looking at other forums more friendlier than here. And more helpful, yes a few helpful comments here thanks. And @save the frogs she is 12 years younger, 47

How do you know? Every one jumping to conclusions, Any way asked her why she interested in me? I am not wealthy, I told her that, and I won't give her money. Also managed to speak to her best fiend, A, via facebook, today who is probably a sex worker, as she is working as a bar girl, which I knew about, saying P knows she could earn more but doesn't want to be doing that, and P likes me because I was nice to her, also P isn't very clever or smart, but is a good person, and since meeting me is like a big teenager, talking all the time about me to her work colleagues, and does realise I am not a wealthy farang. Now I am taking this with a very small pinch of salt as they might be trying to entice me in more me? As I said before it is the debt more than anything which concerns me. She doesn't really have any close family any more, just a few friends. And I did tell her friend if P comes to UK she may never be able to come back to Thailand regards the debt. And yes I have taken some advice on here from some members and read other posts. Going back in a few weeks, and hoping to clear things up RE divorce and debt. And her boss is a good man, I got on with him ok when I met him, saying he will keep job open for a few months if she wants to visit, but that i think may not happen, all depending on visa.

She isn't on facebook, and not a bar girl as she works in restaurant. And I agree that the divorce should be priority

Yes thanks for help, this is what i realise, and wish i met her 20 years ago after my divorce. Quick update of her background, I met her just over 6 months ago on trip to Patong, went for a meal in a local restaurant, she served me and was nice. Any way she was there that evening, had a chat and thought no more of it. Things happened and we dated over the next ten days on and off, I thought "yeah she wants' something", exchanged numbers and go back home. Go back a month or so later and something clicked. Couldn't get time off until christmas so i spent Christmas and new year with her, getting to know her a bit better. Well this last few days she has been more open to me about her past, as I told her I want us to be honest. I knew she fell out with her younger sister, but i found out the reason. Her sister has a successful business in Bangkok, she said they could live with her and get jobs in Bangkok to help pay off debts. 6 months later she come home to find her husband in bed with her sister, and now her sister has a kid by him, so that is reason for leaving him. After trying for years themselves to have a child. Went back to Kalasin to help her mother, after awhile she passed away and she moved to Patong with one of her friends, ended up working in massage spa for a week, hated it and wanted to leave, but her boss has a few businesses and offered her a job at his restaurant. Now is this genuine or is she selling me a sob story? As I said before keeping open mind and I do realise it could take awhile if I decide to go through with asking her to move to UK, Would mean me working till 67 plus. Which I don't want to do as I have a pension that will pay out when i am 65, not a big one, but enough to cover me till i get state pension and my other work pension.

Her husband committed adultery, and i didn't know about getting a divorce until nearing end of 1st week, well, she said she was single. She is not a sex worker, to my knowledge that i noticed whilst seeing her, And i suffer from dyslexia And debts are a concern, but no idea how big they are. Advice from a good friend they gave me today "Keep in touch and remain friends, who knows what the future holds. Life is short , live it." And taking a step back, not rushing into it, just seeing what options there are, And @theoldgit gave me the best advice so far, which would have been the best advice if anyone gave it to me earlier in the thread Way people are commenting would think i am in process of sorting and applying for visa and giving in to her.

Thank you, that is an option ,i have thought about, definitely not Patong though. I do know a few British friends , not met for a while but occasionally chat on FB spread throughout Thailand, 2 ex work colleagues, and 2 who are backpacking around asia.All saying i should move, but I have 2 kids and a granddaughter here. And to previous posts about wanting kids, that will never happen

Thanks, this has been the best advice given to me so far. And if people re read what i wrote, She is not divorced yet, no kids, works in restaurant, she mentioned about losing her mother last year before i did. I think debt is credit card she said one night. But she says it is her responsibility. And won't tell me how much it is. Is she playing the long game? Again we don't know. 1. Do you know for sure what she work with and where? She was working in restaurant near to my hotel 2. Do you know where she live? Have you visited her at her place? She tell me she stays in a room in above the restaurant, and only seen her there. 3. Did she agree to sex with you, the first time you met her? Did you pay her anything for that? No not the first time, a week later, I am a gentleman 4. Does it looks like she do not want you to listen or be around when she get phone calls? I never noticed her phone ringing whilst I was with her, only time i noticed was for translating now and again. 5. If she told you she want to divorce, and that her husband agrees to divorce. Why has that not been done during 6 months? That I can't answer, she left him because of his affairs that's all she told me 6. What times does she start and stop work, and how many days a week does she work? She told me she start in mid morning about 10, and finishes about 8pm, maybe start and finish times vary she said, and does at least 5 days a week, sometimes 7 she says 7. Do you spend most day time or night time with her Mainly spent the evenings with her, and she spent a week with me on one visit, she said she took leave from work. I am keeping an open mind, but regardless of where she is from or where we met, I liked her company, and no money has changed hands, apart from when i had a meal in her restaurant. Money wise i am due a payout at 65, towards my retirement fund. But we don't know what the future holds for anyone.

After she finished work some days. Again the negative comments. FFS i now she might try to scam me or rip me off, but unlike some blokes i seen over there i wasn't thing with my dick

No we lost our Mums about the same time, and yes like similar music, she is 47 i am 59, Any relationship when you meet someone doesnt matter where it is it is the feeling you get. Oh she works in a restaurant . not a massage or bar. for the last few years she said, whether that is the truth i don't know, does she believe me when i say i am a CEO of a big company? or that i am a Surgeon, when all i am is a normal bloke in a boring job with a few years left till retirement.

Again, why so many negative comments? My ex wife ripped me off bad when i was younger, oh by the way she is British through and through. I am keeping an open mind, and it is all down to trust. I know some Thai girls are out to rip you off, I am just looking at long term if things seem ok, I am not a wealthy man, no way was i getting involved with bar girls , or massage girls, or freelancers or any other stuff, someone said go on thaifriendly, nah, not into that. what happens happened. She may try to con me. She may me ok? But as i said letting my head rule my heart. Been hurt in the past. It may work out, it may not. She could be the one. Or she may be playing the game. We can only wait and see. As i said before, as soon as she asks for money, in the word of Duncan Ballantyne, "I'm oot of here!"