Jangunnim

Looking at the immigration rules and the enforcement, no it’s not even close to anything far-right whatever is meant by that. The rules to gain PR and citizenship are not that far from the average in the world, actually nowadays the laws are easier than in many western countries as everyone is racing to make it harder. Enforcement is what it is for a typical third world country. The hardest thing is the bureaucracy but even that can somewhat be dealt with agents if you have the money. Also the effect of individual ministers to the process is quite big. It’s just that they haven’t signed the refugee convention so they don’t have to battery-farm the country full of fake refugees who make 10 applications. Also there is barely any welfare system so the incentives aren’t that big. No, if some retired boomer cannot get PR or citizenship by marrying some bar girl from Isan, it does not make the country far-right. Their issue is the incompetent government that has failed to reform the education system and is currently in the process of buying votes for the next election yet again, and the cycle repeats. Not that the west has had good governments lately, far from it.

Well they stopped getting signed pretty much after he became the interior minister, like zero processed after that so it’s a bit hard to draw other conclusions. Or maybe he doesn’t know it’s the role of the interior minister after all Boris Johnson did not “know” ILR existed when he was the PM in the UK. He has not even signed the decree to grant the nationality to the stateless indigenous people that the government decided apparently in a bid to look good to the UN. Just based on that I think it’s very safe to say that it’s not going to happen for the next 3 years. Or do you people here have some copium to share?

So Anutin has decided he does not want to sign anything so for the foreseeable future years, nothing will get processed right? Not PR and not citizenship. I don’t think he has even signed the degree where they granted citizenship to those stateless minorities. If he hates these so much why not just change the law and be transparent instead of playing that game?

What is the best way to handle getting your name in the blue book after PR approval? I would rather not buy condo tbh and not married. Not sure if the landlord would cooperate so are there some agents you could pay to put you in there or law firms that offer the service?

So it if I reach my 3 years with WP on October, and I fill all the other requirements, 200k salary etc, speak I think good enough Thai for that, I can apply the same year? also recently how long is the processing from the submission of the application?

I know many people who got PR in my company and few in the process of getting citizenship but that queue is long as hell right now. They all went through the official process and gathered the documents, the agents were useless. But the company I am at is very reputable and salaries are generally at least 150k for foreigners. All applied either through the work pathway or the family BUT still fulfill the work conditions obviously

I am sorry but I am almost sure that this is not going to cut it. I don’t know anyone that got it through that category, might as well not exist. Basically the way is to work for real Thai company and that is how 99% will do it, you will be required to provide confidential company documents also to verify they are paying taxes etc. and also that the company is not created solely for you to get PR. There is a lot to criticize these decades old Thai laws about but not handing out PRs in the same way many western countries have done is good. Walk around some cities in Western Europe and you will see the results of printing PRs and citizenships to every living soul, or in the UK for that matter. Frankly i wouldn’t let more than half of the foreigners in Thailand anywhere near any permanent status. For you the choice is to basically get a job in Thai company which might be doable because the salary limit for married people is very low.

LTR doesn’t even have a path to PR or citizenship, yikes… with those requirements you would kind of expect something but apparently not lmao. I don’t know why I assumed in my mind that of course it would have some path because they even have own section for it in chamchuri and now in the one Bangkok I guess. But they hawking a 10 year tourist visa

Not throwing shade at the OP but looking at those new prices for the elite cards, man those guys at the elite company are delusional. 5 million baht for the best one without never getting access to PR or pathway to citizenship? To me that seems like complete lunacy but it’s probably aimed at people with too much money anyway and since people are buying those it’s probably good for them, not sure though how DTV affected the sales.. hope OP finds a buyer through, at least that one is forever and not time limited..

Honestly reading this thread kind of makes me question working here long term as I would like to eventually become a citizen. The requirements itself aren’t that bad and are kind of in line internationally but the insanity is the processing times and allegedly all that time you need to have the work permit etc and you can never know what happens. Even for the PR which I think I will apply this year, I read can take almost 2 years to process?? The bureaucracy is completely insane, this stuff gets processed in like a month or two in Hong Kong for instance or somewhere like in Taiwan. And the fact while the country is corrupt to the nose, the corruption doesn’t help with this stuff so you cannot pay for the fast lane like you could likely do in Cambodia for instance. I talked to the PR desk and they said I should pass because my income is around 250k per month, BOI company, can speak enough Thai.. but the processing time completely insane. I understand that they don’t want to naturalize everyone with a pulse which is good and neither grant PR because a big portion of foreigners in this country are knuckledraggers that should be nowhere near any permanent status, but at least have the processing to be somewhat transparent and smooth even if the requirements are high..

So Thai-South Korea visa deal gives Korean nationals and Thai national visa free entry for 3 months in the other country, but didn't thailand just hand out 2 month unilateral visa free entries to multiple countries that have no reciprocal agreements with Thailand? I don't know but it looks little ridiculous in that light.

To me this visa really reeks of desperation, the rules are unprecedentingly lax. Before they wanted to attract the "high quality" travellers and residents but apparently that didn't work out as well as they thought (who would have guessed with those LTR requirements?). So now they are basically going all in and flinging the gates open in the last desperate attempt to get more of tourism money. If what is stated in this thread is correct, for example few weeks Muay Thai or cooking course qualifying for it, and sometimes not even having to show last 6 months bank statements so being able to borrow the 500k for the application, this really is a free pass for a HUGE amount of people. Will be really interesting to see what happens. Maybe they will start throwing out PRs and Citizenships on top soon?