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posted on one of the pages I follow on facebook 2 hours ago
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I don't get this superficial judging of people by where they live here in LOS. Gees, what's next the color of their skin? Their religion? I thought the remark about the expats in Udon based on a couple of days hanging around bars was particularly ignorant and it now grows into a bigger post. I guess I just don't judge like some do. I think I could be happy anywhere here. I live in Phuket and have hundreds of acquaintances and a few friends and for the most part I like everybody. I think most places are like this in LOS. Well...except for Pattaya.
And there it was. The word "ignorant". I completely agree. Generalizations of the sorts made in this thread can only be described as ignorant.
Seems like many observations are done from bars. Statistically, where would you find a hard working "quality" person most of the time? On a bar? Don't think so.
Agree everything you both have said except you contradict your own quote Pinot "I thought the remark about the expats in Udon based on a couple of days
hanging around bars was particularly ignorant and it now grows into a bigger post. I guess I just don't judge like some do" and then you had to add "except for Pattaya." ? and I'm refering to the part where you stated "I guess I just don't judge like some do"
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It has been two years. How long do you think it will take the folks to find out you are correct?
How long do you think the government can keep hiding the truth that Thai rice is being produced, stored and not sold on?
Already last year the Thai government were searching around looking for more space to store more rice.... the mountain is growing.
The Emperor's New Suit is looking pretty.
I havn't followed this topic, just joined in but what you state seems to be oposite what the FAO state
http://www.fao.org/economic/est/publications/rice-publications/rice-market-monitor-rmm/en/
They get their figures from the Thai government. Check mate.
Thailand claims to have sold rice to other countries, but those countries deny it. Shippers working the ports say they haven't seen it. Some was sold to Africa and they had to throw out as much as 30% of it due to spoilage. If Thailand had sold all of that rice, why haven't they paid down the revolving fund loan at the Agricultural Bank, and instead said they need to raise the loan amount from 500 billion baht to 700 billion baht if even those numbers are truthful? 700 billion baht is a deal breaker. Thailand no way has that kind of money. But it owns the Agricultural Bank, and is using it as a piggy bank. The Agricultural Bank is technical broke from it.
The trick is to make it all look good, and keep the scheme running to be dealt with by the next administration, if they deal with it. This deficit spending for rice is off the books. It doesn't show in the official Thai deficit because the rice is considered an asset.
Yet they paid at least 50% more for it than market value when it was fresh, and now it is deteriorating from moisture and insects. So at best it's worth 50% of what they owe on it, if they could find a buyer which they haven't. If they sell it at market value they'll have to realize the loss, so in Thailand it's best to keep it and let it rot but still claim it as an asset with no loss. Thai banks aren't required to mark to market.
The truth is they've lost at least 500 billion baht on it even if they could sell it, and there's no way they have the money to cover that.
So how do you know they lost 500 billion if you don't know what the government rice figures are? Are you a Thai rice expert? Correct me if I am wrong but I think to know how much they lost you have to know how much they bought. Where do you get accurate figures on how much rice was purchased and at what price?
That's kinda the point I was making about transparency. The prices paid out by the governments scheme are well documented. The quantity bought not so well but you can piece it together. What they have sold into the world market..... nearly impossible. Even the Thai rice exporters association struggle but what they have been seeing through their own people and contacts is not as much is being exported as different government ministers claim.
the scheme is flawed in SO many ways.
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Yeah I get that from you guy's but to refute against world organisations makes it difficult to understand where you get the stats you provide. But I do understand all governments fudge figures to suit themselves and then again how can you say that other authorities outside Thailand fudge the figures to suit Thailand?
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Back home we have specific phrases that easily define if a man is of quality (as judged by his peers, his associates, and the wider community) and worthy of being associated with, or not.
A man of quality, irrespective of wealth, education, status, or job is called a "good bastard" or a "good keen bloke". The opposite to a good bastard or a good keen bloke is a "<deleted>".
Good bastards, good keen blokes, and dickheads come from all walks of life, are rich or poor, highly educated or left school at 15, went to a private or a public school, and may have a highly paid job or be unemployed.
The same applies in Thailand. The place is full of good bastards, good keen blokes, and dickheads - regardless of where in the country they live, what they do, how old or rich they are.
Good aussie quotes
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@ NeverSure & GuestHouse
Take me at being a novice and truely not picking a fight but what you both are saying is at odds with what the world stats say. India exports are down, Vietnam stable over the last couple years other countries down.Comodity prices for rice up from 2011.
http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=rice&months=60
http://www.fao.org/economic/est/publications/rice-publications/rice-market-monitor-rmm/en/
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The scheme is broken - the truth will out.
It has been two years. How long do you think it will take the folks to find out you are correct?
How long do you think the government can keep hiding the truth that Thai rice is being produced, stored and not sold on?
Already last year the Thai government were searching around looking for more space to store more rice.... the mountain is growing.
The Emperor's New Suit is looking pretty.
I havn't followed this topic, just joined in but what you state seems to be oposite what the FAO state
http://www.fao.org/economic/est/publications/rice-publications/rice-market-monitor-rmm/en/
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Maybe this article by the FAO may help the discussion here
http://www.fao.org/economic/est/publications/rice-publications/rice-market-monitor-rmm/en/
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I see what you're saying. Assuming these farmers are taking out loans against their lands, It begs to reason a lot of family farms will be seized when this thing implodes.
I don't know what percentage of Thailand's rice is currently grown by corporations, but if things go rotten, corporations are going to be able to buy up the lands seized by the banks. This could potentially change Thailand's social dynamic for life, as, like what happened in the USA, families are pushed from their agrarian lifestyles.
Of course I'm just speculating, but it appears these farmers have already experienced lifestyle creep: they've earned more money for their rice and accordingly have made more exorbitant purchases, without understanding that their current incomes are unsustainable. And like the article says, once Thailand releases their stockpiles, the price for rice will plummet do to oversupply. This will not be a small bump in the road.
Quote: "don't know what percentage of Thailand's rice is currently grown by corporations, but if things go rotten, corporations are going to be able to buy up the lands seized by the banks. This could potentially change Thailand's social dynamic for life, as, like what happened in the USA, families are pushed from their agrarian lifestyles."
This a thorny complex issue. One argument is that small scale rice farming cannot produce enough income to support a family in a more modern lifestyle, which of course pretty much everybody aspires to. Those who want to continue in a 'survival' mode, well that's their choice of course.
So does that mean that the only way to gain some strong income from rice farming is large scale, computerized modern techniques, more / better knowledge about marketing and finance, all more likely to be held within larger family owned big land ownership or corporations.
But of course this all pushes the small scale (often very small scale) farmer off the land.
Perhaps long-term will that get many farmers into more regular employment / into industry? Is that the ultimate answer?
Quite a puzzle.
Cooperatives are the answer. Putting money into ways that the farmers can help themselves and still keep community's together. Works well in other countries and in some parts of Thailand. Just expand. Give the farmers education and control.
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Corporate financing and real farmers leasing seems to be the modern way of farming and I'm all for it.
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@ NeverSure "Thanks. Somehow I don't think that Thailand's storage is that sophisticated. That's nice looking equipment in those pictures.I don't have any experience in storing rice. Mine is all wheat but I've seen it ruined by moisture from the air."
Storing any grain is exactly the same It depends on when harvesting, the moisture content is correct off the header which is usually computer controlled here unlike I'm sure is not the case in Thailand. After that it's just controlling ventilation and pest infestation. Moisture content can range between 12 and 20% depending on the grain and depending on air drying or not. But usually here grain is harvested goes directly to get tested and graded then put straight into storage.
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@thaicbr
Cant know! just adding some reason thats all. Iv'e been farming for the
last 30 years growing grains and just sharing some knowledge from those years
That's cool. Can I ask how you stored grains. Some pictures would help. Did you have to dry your grains before storage?
Thanks
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Heres just a google page that you can see how we store grain here in Aus
What do you do in your more humid areas to control moisture? The biggest issues in storing grain are moisture, insects, temperature (not letting it get too hot) and of course initial quality. Link
In humid areas that I'm familiar with, they have to move it out by next year.
The issues your are talking about moisture and temperture are when temperaturse rise and fall with the seasons. In our northern areas the temps are more constant and ventilation is very important as well as fumigation regularily
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@thaicbr
Cant know! just adding some reason thats all. Iv'e been farming for the
last 30 years growing grains and just sharing some knowledge from those years
That's cool. Can I ask how you stored grains. Some pictures would help. Did you have to dry your grains before storage?
Thanks
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Heres just a google page that you can see how we store grain here in Aus
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@thaicbr
Cant know! just adding some reason thats all. Iv'e been farming for the
last 30 years growing grains and just sharing some knowledge from those years -
Thailand was only overtaken by India as the largest exporter in the world last year. But for sure rice is a durable little grain and maybe the stockpile will be good for a few more years. Maybe the government will create a rice futures market ? But I agree there is bound to be land changing hands. But in our area, Nakhon Sawan, which is one of the largest rice growing areas, the land is mainly owned by small farmers in blocks of 20 -100rai. They will just shift to sugar cane.
And don't forget that most of the 1st world countries subsidise all their agriculture! For me it looks like the government is looking into the future rather than just now here is a report that might backup what i think.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/jun/15/food-prices-rise-un-report
So you think the scheme is a good idea? Please explain, if you will.
I read the article, and I see what you're getting at. But, 1, the article makes no mention of an increase in the price of rice. And, 2, how long can rice be stored for in tropical temperatures before it grows mold?
It quotes hard grains and rice the same as wheat, barley, sorgum can be stored for years it treated correctly
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Thailand was only overtaken by India as the largest exporter in the world last year. But for sure rice is a durable little grain and maybe the stockpile will be good for a few more years. Maybe the government will create a rice futures market ? But I agree there is bound to be land changing hands. But in our area, Nakhon Sawan, which is one of the largest rice growing areas, the land is mainly owned by small farmers in blocks of 20 -100rai. They will just shift to sugar cane.
And don't forget that most of the 1st world countries subsidise all their agriculture! For me it looks like the government is looking into the future rather than just now here is a report that might backup what i think.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/jun/15/food-prices-rise-un-report
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@SC
and I say that being a cockroach
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Measuring idol? Is that like as in being knee-high to a one-eyed yellow idol to the North of Kathmandu?
Oh..... so now the number you quoted is irrelevant, and quoting it in the first place was to achieve what exactly?ozziebloke, on 27 May 2013 - 20:46, said:
Pick any number population you desire mate! make it 100 if you like
your the one that said "its millions of others who are the same" I can honestly say that I know less than 30 women personaly and I have no sexual relationship with any of them and they are all very decent people in my eye! and what is your provication to now judge me as being unfaithfull to my wife and insinuating my friends are also as you describe Thai women?I could not care less how many women you know, All i care is that you have no clue about Thailand, women in Thailand and culture.
You keep on posting rubbish and people keep on telling to quit while you ahead, but it never seems to register for you.
What is decent in your eyes is also totally irrelevant because you are not a role model nor a measuring idol for what decency should be
Would that be an American Idol or a metric idol?
I'm surprised that you are so confident the fellow is not a role model on an anonymous forum such as this. For all we know he could be Billy Slater.
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Billy Slater is a idol in my eye's
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ozziebloke, on 27 May 2013 - 20:46, said:
Pick any number population you desire mate! make it 100 if you like
your the one that said "its millions of others who are the same" I can honestly say that I know less than 30 women personaly and I have no sexual relationship with any of them and they are all very decent people in my eye! and what is your provication to now judge me as being unfaithfull to my wife and insinuating my friends are also as you describe Thai women?Oh..... so now the number you quoted is irrelevant, and quoting it in the first place was to achieve what exactly?
I could not care less how many women you know, All i care is that you have no clue about Thailand, women in Thailand and culture.
You keep on posting rubbish and people keep on telling to quit while you ahead, but it never seems to register for you.
What is decent in your eyes is also totally irrelevant because you are not a role model nor a measuring idol for what decency should be
Man you love just to throw anything out there! One person told me to quit. who said that was fact?... you asked me how many woman I know!!!. And how do you come to the conclusion I know nothing about as you stated "you have no clue about Thailand, women in Thailand and culture." I never demanded that I were a role model but I stick by what I beleive is decent and what you beleive about Thai women
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@ Lemoncake
"Yes Ozziebloke, yours is different
"Yes Just my point! I have respect for my wife and Thai women. I have seen many of your post's. you live in the middle of Pattaya, frequent bars and have many a comment on them and the women that frequent those places, and then you try by most of your post on similiar subjects place all Thai women in the same catagory. And yes my wife is different from how you think of women and why do you feel the need to insult my wife or any other Thai woman?
If i did not know better, i might start to think you fancied me to know where i live and what i do, but yes yours is different. its millions of others who are the same
Considering Pattaya's population is aroaund 100,000, how many million women do you know in Thailand? Stick to your hotels and bars mate and leave the decent women of Thailand alone from your masogynist lines.
Ohhh the numbers game again.
Ok, do share your source of 100 000 population and also do share how many women you know, unless of course you not faithful to your wife and spend most of your time getting to know others to know exactly how and what they are
Do you label them decent when they say No to you or is there another criteria?
Pick any number population you desire mate! make it 100 if you like
your the one that said "its millions of others who are the same" I can honestly say that I know less than 30 women personaly and I have no sexual relationship with any of them and they are all very decent people in my eye! and what is your provication to now judge me as being unfaithfull to my wife and insinuating my friends are also as you describe Thai women? -
@ Lemoncake
"Yes Ozziebloke, yours is different
"Yes Just my point! I have respect for my wife and Thai women. I have seen many of your post's. you live in the middle of Pattaya, frequent bars and have many a comment on them and the women that frequent those places, and then you try by most of your post on similiar subjects place all Thai women in the same catagory. And yes my wife is different from how you think of women and why do you feel the need to insult my wife or any other Thai woman?
If i did not know better, i might start to think you fancied me to know where i live and what i do, but yes yours is different. its millions of others who are the same
Considering Pattaya's population is aroaund 100,000, how many million women do you know in Thailand? Stick to your hotels and bars mate and leave the decent women of Thailand alone from your masogynist lines.
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@ Lemoncake
"Yes Ozziebloke, yours is different
"Yes Just my point! I have respect for my wife and Thai women. I have seen many of your post's. you live in the middle of Pattaya, frequent bars and have many a comment on them and the women that frequent those places, and then you try by most of your post on similiar subjects place all Thai women in the same catagory. And yes my wife is different from how you think of women and why do you feel the need to insult my wife or any other Thai woman?
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Anyone who feels the men were not rude are either lying or lacking in morals.
Have you considered the possibility that the OP is the liar in this sad saga ? The whole 'took the money and threw it in the bin' just doesn't work for me - not with the image of HRH on those notes. How many Thais would do that ?
Personally, OP lost me in the first sentence "my friend from facebook"
Actual matter at hand, when people do not pay, they cheap charlies, when they offer to pay, they rude. Just can not win with Thai females.
IF there ever was a story like this and it was true, the Thai Female should take it up with her fellow sisters as it is them who commonly use foreigners for money, which would only be natural for foreigner to assume many are the same.
@ Berkshire and Muythai 2013 cant you see whether this story was true or a
fabrication that you have so many that think of Thai women in a certain
way and they continue to blanket all Thai women the same.They won't change
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My assets in Oz are pretty straightforward, two Term Deposit bank accounts and that's it.Will kits are not perfect. Depending on how complicated your situation is it might be better to talk to an Australian solicitor.
But my understanding is that you can make your will anywhere on earth. (I am a CPA, not a lawyer, by the way).
A little bit off topic but don't forget about the new laws regarding bank accounts that lay dorment for three years
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Also I can see that many of the posters on this thread only hang out in the areas where you will find these ladies that you love to misogynise or have not lived or just breifly visited or that you are just lemmings following the first ignorant d#ckhead that wanted to have a go at the OP. 99% of thai woman are not Prostitutes or have anything to do with the sex industry.
99% ? Source ?
"An estimate by Dr. Nitet Tinnakul from Chulalongkorn University gives a total of 2.8 million sex workers in Thailand, including 2 million women, 20,000 adult males and 800,000 minors under the age of 18."
So 2.8 million out of 60 million Thai population gives 4.6%. And that includes men and children.
Blood pressure is just fine Thanks
and looks by your edit that your 60% has turned into 4.6%Just note that this was a report from 2004, estimate is that numbers have almost doubled by now so it should be little less then 10%. Camgirls are not included.
What ever mate. If you want to jump on the misogynist, dog pack wagon thats your choice. 60% - 4.6% - 10%?
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@Lemoncake
Most times it's hard to understand whether your having a joke or being serious so this time I will not bite
your the one that said "its millions of others who are the same" I can honestly say that I know less than 30 women personaly and I have no sexual relationship with any of them and they are all very decent people in my eye! and what is your provication to now judge me as being unfaithfull to my wife and insinuating my friends are also as you describe Thai women?
My Dog Is Chasin&killing Neighbor's Chickens- Any Suggestions
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Have to agree with IsaanAussie and sgtsabai. You have a pet with a problem and not a guard dog. He has the taste now and will never change and you will never train him out of it! I do know because I have been training dogs around live stock all my life. You have two choices, Euthanasia or being caged or penned so as the dog cannot roam at all, the second choice has it's problems also.