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Thank you for welcoming me here. I'm just occasional bystander but I found this topic really disturbing and full of cliche rusophobic BS. And I must admit I admire your persistance and patience while trying to discuss with narrow minded and brainwashed members of this thread. Seems like some ppl still got the problem with sticking to the logic and facts. Of course I'm aware of that 1943/1944 genocide. My grandfather's father was a polish army officer sent to this area at that time so I had the firsthand account. That quote you paste is 100% true. The methods used by OUN and UPA to kill people (elders, pregnant woman, children, infants) were totally barbaric, like taken from the sickest gore/horror movies. The thing is in Ukraine (especially estern part) there's still lot of ppl and organised nazi movements which cherish and worships the human beasts like Bandera , Shukhevytch, Melnyk and other human garbage. It's such a shame that ukrainian schools never teach their kids about these events like nothing ever happened. Blank card in history for them. Ukraine had a chance to be a normal country but ultimately screwed everything in 2014. This country now is no different from what I've seen in 90's when I was there trying to do business with one of ukrainian company. Still totally corrupted to the core. Led by lunatics, figureheads, criminals, villains and ordinary idiots. The only ppl I feel sorry for is the average, poor ukrainian "Mykola" - conscripted to the army by force, sitting there in the ditch, with rats and dead bodies around. Seriously - in ukrainian cities special military forces are literally kidnapping men and sending them close to enemy lines. Underprepared. Only because they didn't have enough money or connections to flee the country like others. How it is in my country after we took MILIONS of Ukrainians, how many of them behave, what kind of problems we face having them here, how ungrateful and demanding they are despite thriving on welfares paid by statistical polish taxpayer - I could write a book about his.

Finally I found some words of reason in this thread. As a Pole I see a lot of people here doesn't even have any historical/geopolitical background knowledge and their opinion are shaped by brainwashing, warmongering propaganda.