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The most important thing you will need from the school is a letter stating your last day of work. You can cancel the work permit yourself.

Is you job going to in the same province where you teaching now? If not it will complicate changing to a new employer.

The fact that you have been extending a non-o visa entry changes nothing. What was the non-o based upon? If married to a Thai that could make things a little easier.

Your new employer would have to apply for work permit for you and obtain a work permit application letter.

Then you could go to immigration with the letter from the school on before your last date of work to have your current extension cancelled. As soon as that is done you would apply for new extension with supporting documents from your new employer and the work permit approval letter.

After the extension is done you would cancel your work permit and the new one could be issued.

What is needed to get the non-b visa will depend upon where you apply for it. As an example Vientiane requirements can be found here. http://vientiane.thaiembassy.org/upload/pdf/Visa/Non-B%20business.pdf

What if they .won't provide the letter?

The job will be in a different province

It was based on marriage. I got divorced years ago and the school was still able to extend. I had to provide the divorce certificate each year.

Interesting. I wonder if the stars would align to make this happen!?

Thank you for the link

Without a letter your only choice would be to go out for a new visa or a visa exempt entry.

A different province would mean dealing with 2 work permit offices and 2 immigration offices unless your current office covered both provinces.

Not being being now will not help.

It is possible but not always easy.

Go out for new visa or visa exempt but not nong khai or mukdahan right? They wont stop him there if he has no termination letter?

Hi,

So, as soon as his previous school cancels his work permit does he get 7 days to exit the country?

Thanks

There is no 7 days. A 7 day extension can be applied for, the 1900 baht fee paid and then he would be given 7 days to leave the country at immigration with a termination letter stating the last date of his employment after the extension is canceled.

If you apply for the 7 day extension on the last day both work permit and extension of stay expire do you still need a termination letter?

Yes you need a termination letter. Without it they will not know when you actually stopped working.

If you have a termination letter you can save the cost of the extension by going to immigration a few days before the date on it and they will post date the cancellation to that date.

But if your work permit and extension of stay expire naturally together for example on june 30 and the termination letter shows as june 30 as the last working day and say you go a few days before what exactly immigration is going to stamp as last day? The same date that is already in the passport? Is there such a thing as a cancelation stamp?

Hi,

So, as soon as his previous school cancels his work permit does he get 7 days to exit the country?

Thanks

There is no 7 days. A 7 day extension can be applied for, the 1900 baht fee paid and then he would be given 7 days to leave the country at immigration with a termination letter stating the last date of his employment after the extension is canceled.

If you apply for the 7 day extension on the last day both work permit and extension of stay expire do you still need a termination letter?

ubonjoe - is it legal to fail to cancel your extension? Could you wait until convenient, and then exit by air (to Penang, say) to get an SETV?

There is no law that says it is illegal. Many people just fly out and back with a valid extension to cancel it.

The work permit can be canceled after the extension is canceled.

The best and most correct way is to the way I wrote earlier.

The border crossings that check for valid extensions based upon working are doing it to catch people that stopped working long before they are trying to leave the country and cannot get a termination letter from an angry ex employer or the employer will only date it to the date they stopped working (thus an overstay).

While i am not in this case you describe i would prefer not getting my employer involved

In this case is it possible to simply wait till the last day that both extension and work permit expire, apply for the 7 day extension on that day and subsequently leave for laos for a non o visa during those days?

1) Could immigration deny those 7 days?

2) Can mukdahan or nong khai immigration stop you from leaving if you try to exit thailand during those 7 days?

I am thinking the answer is no and no but would appreciate a confirmation thank you

Just bump this thread to confirm something...need confirmation about how many months prior to the expiry date of the drivers licence can apply for renewal? If it expires in may 4 2016 can i renew in october 2015?

Thanks all for the feedback. It seems I do have some options here.

A few more questions, though (for now): If the employer does NOT send an termination letter to me, where do I stand than? Both, the VISA & Work Permit will expire beginning next months, first WP and a day later my 1 year extention permit.

Can I go (latest) on the last day of my permit to stay in Thailand to extend it in Bangkok for another 60 days? Or is the permit to stay already expired when the WP epires a day before? Do I need to change my type of VISA for the new period (of 60 days) or can I still go along with my current non-B?

Finally, as I remember, the company must employ me for another 30 days (in any way; as I'm being employed since a long time) latest after the WP expires? Usually, that goes along with the termination letter. But what if the company just do not renew my WP? And don't sent a letter? I know, it is a little bit complicated, but maybe someone has some ideas here too. Thanks thinking about it.

When your work permit expires, your visa expires as well. Youll need a cancellation letter from your employer, otherwise you could easily be on an overstay without even knowing it.

Your type of visa cant be a Non-B because youre not employed anymore, youll have to apply for a Non-O, based on your marriage.

No idea if the company must employ you for another 30 days, is it possible that youll just receive a one-month salary? I dont think that your company will renew your work permit, you need the termination letter from your employer to cancel your extension of stay and to cancel your work permit.

If you dont do that and try to leave the country to lets say apply for a Non-O in Sawannakhet, they might (will) send you back to do both cancellations first.

Best of luck.

If you are employed for many years,a company in Thailand can't just close the doors. Depending on the past employment period, they have give you a warning, that is max 30 days after having sent the termination letter. In Europe it is perhaps up to 6 months (for both sides) but in Thailand, neverthelss, it is max 30 days. That said, based on my expiration dates of WP & Stay in Thailand, it is almost the same day. But you have right, if the WP expires, so likely (sure) the permit to stay in Thailand,too. But not sure why a termination letter is still required IF both dates have practically expired the same day and likely already when having entered LAOS.

I am also trying to make any sense out of this but really it doesnt...so if you leave the country on the last day your permit expires they might not let you out if you have no termination letter from employer..if you wait one more day you are on overstay...so what are you supposed to do if your employer does not cooperate or if simply you do not want to get the employer involved?

Thinking that using a visa agent who know the tricks and include tea money in their fees will expedite this...a few of the requirements from the officer like wearing same clothes point exactly to this..

Hello anyone please?

Sure sure i got it...i will be in a similar position in a few months and will change from non b from job to non o from marriage...but for me would be easier i think not dealing with cancelations and as i would prefer not getting my workplace involved with that i was wondering if letting them both expire naturally would achieve the same thing without me doing anything

Say for example permission of stay and work permit expire together on march 10 and would like to go subsequently to a thai embassy in a neighboring country to get a non o...am i legally ok if i leave the country on no 10? Guessing not because work permit has not expired yet...on othe other side leaving on no 11 would mean overstay...is the best option gettng a 7 day extension a few days before no 10, let the work permit expire and leave the country any date after no 10? Thanks for your help.

Letting both the work permit and extension of stay naturally expire on 31st march do not actually achieve the same witout submitting any cancellation forms?

You could do it in Bangkok if you have proof of residence for there. A rental agreement or your wife's house book with a Bangkok address would be needed.

I suggest you go to immigration a few days before the date on your termination letter and they will will postdate the cancellation to that date. Doing that would give you a little extra time.

Would a credit card bank statement work for a proof of address document with immigration?

I don't think that would be enough proof.

Wow really? If true thats strange...anyone can make a rental agreement. Usually utility bills are more secure and more powerful than a rental agreement. I do a lot of business with international companies and for opening accounts with banks or other organisations they will never accept a rental agreement as proof of address. The minimum they would want as proof of address would be either a utility bill or bank statement. If immigration sees a credit card statement from krungsri or kasikorn with my name and address on it and they do not accept it then i do not know what else to say. Usually owners do not provide rental agreements past the first year and in any case it is a simple document with names and signatures on it. Usually no stamps or logos or anything like this.

You could do it in Bangkok if you have proof of residence for there. A rental agreement or your wife's house book with a Bangkok address would be needed.

I suggest you go to immigration a few days before the date on your termination letter and they will will postdate the cancellation to that date. Doing that would give you a little extra time.

Would a credit card bank statement work for a proof of address document with immigration?

Ask your branch but SCB and Bangkok Bank use the address of the main office in Bangkok for SWIFT transfers, since your account number will indicate your branch

I had a Kbank account several years ago and I am pretty sure that I used the main office address for SWIFT transfers from my US bank

I asked the branch and they told me to use the branch address but I think they have no clue. I did a wire transfer with Bangkok Bank a few years ago and I am pretty sure I used the head office. I just need confirmation.

Hello,

I want to transfer money from my account back in my home country to Kasikorn bank. I know I need swift number, account number/name and Kasikorn bank's full address. Does anyone know if the address has to be the address of the branch where the original account was opened or the address of the head office of the bank? Thank you for your help.

I would like to know the meaning of the following sentence in the context of the ability of a person to conceive! Literally the following sentence talks about food however it can take a whole different meaning in a different context. Does anyone know the meaning of it in the context of a person being or not being able to conceive? Is it some kind of slang? Does it have a positive, neutral or negative connotation? The following Thai sentence refered to a man and followed a comment about a couple that cannot conceive. I know this is a strange question but I heard it from someone and I am curious about it

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Enable your cellular data, then go to General then About, next a notification should pop up saying do you want to upgrade carrier settings, click yes. Then go back to general and press network then the option will appear also a Personal Hotspot option on the side bar

Does anyone know how to use the new Ipad as a personal hotspot? It seems that this option is not visible in the settings. Is this a carrier (I have 3G with True) or an OS issue?

Thanks a bunch this worked. People at True shop could not tell me that simple thing!

Does anyone know how to use the new Ipad as a personal hotspot? I need to use the new Ipad to connect to the internet using my desktop. It seems that the personal hotspot option is not visible in the Ipad settings. Is this a carrier (I have 3G with True) or an OS issue?

Does anyone know how to use the new Ipad as a personal hotspot? It seems that this option is not visible in the settings. Is this a carrier (I have 3G with True) or an OS issue?

I would like to bring this topic back up. Does anyone know a pelvic floor specialist in Thailand? There are many specialized clinics in a few western countries but cannot find anything for Thailand. Thank you.

To summarize for me (legally married to a Thai wife) the safest option would be for her to make a Will assigning me as the sole heir and at the same time register with the land office either a usufruct or superficies thing.

Since you have already stated that you trust your wife, I don't really understand the point of registering a usufruct. The will will ensure that you inherit the land, which you as stated will have to sell within a timeframe of no more than one year. However, I it seems very unlikely to me that you will be able to sell the land to anyone as long as there is a usufruct registered on the deed. So you will probably have to cancel the usufruct anyway after your wife dies.

The usufruct may give you some protection in case of divorce, but the accepted wisdom seems to be that any agreement between husband and wife can be cancelled at any time by either party if that agreement favours one partner over the other. I believe a usufruct would fall into that category.

Sophon

Sophon, I think you miss to point with a usufruct or a superficies. It is correct that a will will be enough to transfer the land to the husband in the unfortunate event of an early passing of the Thai wife. However, the husband must then sell the land within a period that must not exceed one year.

If a usufruct or a superficies has been registered for life in favour of the husband, the husband could still continue to live on the land until he passes away even though the land would be sold to a third party.

I think the point that Sophon was trying to make was that since the land MUST be sold in case of death of the Thai wife, no one will buy a land with a usufruct so it will have to be canceled. Since it is like that is it maybe better to name as heirs her family? That would mean that they can take hold of the land only in the case of my death. Although I feel uncomfortable doing that, it is the same as placing a bounty on my head

Thank you all for your replies. To summarize for me (legally married to a Thai wife) the safest option would be for her to make a Will assigning me as the sole heir and at the same time register with the land office either a usufruct or superficies thing. Is that correct?

I am not very familiar with superficies. How does that work and what is the Thai word for that? I know the Thai word for usufruct is "sitikepkin" or something like that. Is superficies more expensive then a usufruct and why is it better? Sorry for all the questions but I have to close this deal within two weeks. Thanks for your help.

I am planning to buy a land under a chanote or nor sor sam kor title. The plan is to do the usual thing which is either a 30 year lease or usufruct whichever is available in my local land office (Hua Hin). I realise that even this is not full proof in case of a divorce or in the unfortunate event that my wife passes away. I am not so concerned of a divorce since I consider it very inlikely but I do want to cover myself even more if she passes away before me. I believe the family can come in at this moment and lay claims on the property. Is it possible for my wife to name me as the sole heir of the property? I know that a foreigner cannot own land but I think this is one of the few cases that it is possible. I believe that a foreigner can inherit land in this way but has one year to sell it. If the property is not sold in one year, the land office or whichever department takes over and sells it and gives the proceedings to the owner minus fees. Could someone please confirm if this is correct and possible?

Can a 30 year lease or usufruct be registered in the land office on a nor sor sam kor title deed? If not, is there any way to safeguard the land? I understand that ultimately the goal is to have only chanotes but is it possible to upgrade now a nor sor sam kor to a chanote for a reasonable fee without having to wait for decades? Thanks for any replies.

Dear Sheryl,

Thank you so much for your informative post. This is actually the kind of info that I was looking for. I got confused because if I remember right in my country it is possible to see a microbiologist in the same way that you visit any other doctor. However, what you say makes complete sense. My symptoms that prompted me to go to the doctor were often urination that I usually do not have and small pain/discomfort in the rear of my right testicle (maybe scrotum). I am suspecting that based on those symptoms I may have prostatitis or epididymitis due to the bacteria. My doctor did a semen culture test and I believe a sensitivity report test also because the document I received looks very similar to the one you describe (name of bacteria and list of antibiotics with the indication "S", "R" and "I").The document does not have a numerical indication about the number of bacteria. It only says "moderate growth". I have a few questions and I would appreciate yours or anyone's help.

1) I would like to know a little more about the way they do the sensitivity test. Does it apply to my specific strain of bacteria found in THIS SPECIFIC semen or as soon as the microbiologist establishes that I have a e.faecalis he checks through a pre-established list of bacteria and relevant antibiotics and creates this list. In a way I am asking this because I want to know if the "S" and "R" indications on my test are based on generic pre-established conclusions or apply directly to my SPECIFIC strain of e.faecalis. In other words I would like to know without getting too technical and overload the thread how they run those sensitivity reports. Do they actually try every antibiotic on the list in the culture and see how the specific bacteria on the specific semen responds? I hope my question is clear.

2) Ciprofloxacin is not inside the sensitivity list of antibiotics. So I do not know if it has an "R" or "S" indication. I failed to ask the doctor about this. However, I find it hard to believe that this is a mistake from the doctor. I know that Cipro belongs to the quinolones family of the antibiotics. The names I have for antibiotics in the list are (ampicillin, benzylpenicillin, erythromycin, gentamicin high level, imipenem, levofloxacin, linezolid, moxifloxacin, quinupristin/dalfopristin, cefuroxime-axetil, cefuroxime, ampicilin/sulbactam, streptomycin high level, tetracycline, tigercycline, teicoplanin, vancomycin). Any idea where ciprofloxacin belongs here so that I can check the indicator? I know that moxifloxacin (S indicator on my list) and levofloxacin (S indicator on my list) are also fluoroquinolone like the cipro but stronger with adverse side-effects so could it be that the doctor wanted to start with a "lighter" antibiotic of the same family and see if it works. Actually I think that already after 3 days of treatment, cipro seems to give me light arthritis in the lower back which is one of its side-effects and I hope it does not increase as I would like to finish this treatment (10 days).

3) From those 17 antibiotics, 10 have the indication "S" on the list. Does that mean that the specific strain of bacteria I have is not so resistant so maybe there is hope?

4) Under the line that describes the bacteria there is another line that says "antimicrobial agent: MIC 1". Under the MIC column some antibiotics have numbers like 4, 0.5 and 1. Any idea what this means?

I am actually a healthy person, normal weight, 38 years old and I hardly ever get sick. I do not smoke and drink only moderately. I guess I got worried because I spent too much time online researching about this bacteria and I did not like what I read about its high resistance. But maybe the strain I have is not so strong. Thank you again for your help and I hope someone can answer the above questions.

Hello,

I was diagnosed with the bacteria Enterococcus Faecalis a few days ago and currently taking antibiotics. This seems to be causing an infection of the urinary tract. This is quite new to me and from my research in the internet it seems that this bacteria can be proved difficult and long to kill and has a capacity to develop easily antibiotic resistance. I am currently taking cipro tabs for 10 days as recommended by a urologist. Selection of the right antibiotics or combination of them is crucial to kill the bacteria and I have doubts that a urologist has enough experience dealing with this. I think that a microbiologist is more appropriate for my case. However, it seems to be very hard to find information about this. I tried to browse through the forum but I found absolutely nothing for recommendations of microbiologists or even if it exists as a specialty in Thai hospitals. Could please someone point me to the right direction or does anyone know a microbiology specialist that would recommend? This is causing me great anxiety. Thank you for your help.