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Just now, Laughing Gravy said:
Please! Are you saying they are anti EU? What are they then.
Maybe you don't understand the term puppet in this context!
"puppet : a person, under the control of another."
Unless there are undeniable concrete proofs, accepted by everyone, it remains a conviction.
Mr. Johnson was accused to be the puppet of Mr. Cummings,
there have never been irrefutable proofs of this.
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1 minute ago, Laughing Gravy said:
From a UK perspective, I blame Major and Blair. Both EU puppets, so yes the EU can bare some blame too.
" Both E.U. puppets "
is of course a perception.
Many will certainly concur,
as many others won't.
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Everything is relative.
Years ago in the Metro in Paris/France there were all over posters with the advice :
"Don't drink more than 1 liter wine a day"
Which is more than a bottle.
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4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:Economically insignificant to the EU as a whole? Yes.
But politically it could be of massive significance to Macron. The 'one big happy family' myth is debunked pretty quickly when individual state's requirements are compromised in favour of another's. Many reports of tension between Merkel and Macron over this.
There are presidential elections in France in 2022.
Mr. Macron want to score, giving the impression to his base he cares.
Of course tensions occur in a group of 27, the art is to have it under control.
The U.K. consist only out of 4 indivifual countries, and it seems that it has tensions with one.
Sure it will do all what it can/what is necessary, to have it under control.
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15 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:I fear many have and do already. I speak with French people who say their country has been overrun with foreigners. the same with others in European countries and their identities taken away.
if they mention this they are branded racists. It is too late in my opinion.
There is of course free movement of people in Europe.
Every country has since a long time been assailed by African and other "refugees".
Each country has however the possibility to issue laws/regulations to make the life of these "refugees" less easy/confortable.
No country has done it so far.
It is not my impression that the majority of the man in the street blame the E.U. for this
"overruning", but more their own government to not take the necessary steps to control this situation.
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1 minute ago, JonnyF said:
A minority that could prove extremely costly for Macron's future prospects.
If they were so insignificant, why is the EU so insistent on continued access?
Politics, it is all about giving the base the illusion that something is done for them.
If the base is happy,
this will affect their vote.
But in fact this fishing thing is economical insignificant in the all package.
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1 hour ago, JonnyF said:
The UK will be fine
Pretty sure,
there will be of course issues, but convinced it will fine.
Same thing for the E.U..
Of course there will be voices claiming, even hoping, the U.K. /E.U. will be a failure starting next year.
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10 minutes ago, JonnyF said:
The man in the street?
Or the fishermen in their boats?
The fishermen are only a minority,
and we all know what a minority represent for the majority.
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1 hour ago, JonnyF said:
Reasonable? Are you serious? There is nothing reasonable about what the EU is proposing.
That's a perspective most Britons have.
Most Europeans, on their side, believe that every proposal the E.U. does to the U.K. is immediately considered as unrealistic.
I am afraid it will not be possible to modify these convictions.
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2 hours ago, nauseus said:it had not mutated into the mainly political monster it is today.
This will only be significant, if the man in the street in Europe, will feel concretely the negative effects of the E.U. in his daily life.
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11 hours ago, vogie said:
If I can turn that around, do you think the 48% care about the 52% that chose to leave the EU,
In my opinion, there is no need for a minority to "care" about a majority,
the greater number having the power,
the minority is impuissant, it can only suggest.
Further I think how less the winning margin is from a majority, how more it should "care" about the minority.
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7 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:
Politicians no longer have ethics and regard hypocrisy and lying as tools of the trade, as we see time and time again. So nothing they say has any real meaning and can be reversed as soon as necessary to them.
Oh, so true;
and everyone is conscious of it.
However, if it may benefit/strengthen the opinion of one, he will refer to the declaration of the politician, as being absolute truth.
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4 hours ago, JonnyF said:
I think it would be fair to wait a decade to see the long term effects of Brexit
Seems reasonable.
Of course there are/will be negative/positive speculations.
The same for the future of the E.U., without the important contribution of the U.K..
Maybe they can handle it, handle it a few years, not able to handle it.
Time will tell.
Also other nations will decide after a decade (based on the long term effects) if they will follow the steps of the U.K., or not.
Here also this won't stop actual, and further in time, speculations.
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15 minutes ago, nauseus said:I agree. M. Barnier has a very difficult job. The EU comprises of 27 states which all have their own interests and priorities; that's why it takes eons for anything to happen.
Good that the U.K. has patience.
Now why they have so much patience, is open to interpretation.
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35 minutes ago, vogie said:
Boris will do what is best for our nation
And that's what he is of course suppose to do.
Mr. Barnier have been instructed to do the best for the E.U., and that's what he is doing.
It is a very difficult duty, which may result for the 2 parties in a :
"Mission non accomplished"
There will be than, on both sides, a lot of statements why it failed, with certainly the blaming of the other party for not have being fair-minded/reasonable.
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If indeed sovereignty is that important, fishing in British waters by non- Britons should never have been tolerated ( no quota should have been sold out to foreign hands).
In my opinion it is a pure mercantile state of affairs, this sovereignty thing is a lame excuse.
Now I have no problem at all, that a country try to get the most out of the deal, if a foreign country wants to buy/ lease/use it, or whatever, some of the resources of that said country.
In other words Lord Frost should have said/say to Mr. Barnier :
"you want to continue to fish in our waters, well it is that much".
Than up to negotiations.
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Line is : Rainnie taxi
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2 hours ago, JonnyF said:Well, now you know.
I never thought this website could be so educational.
You seem like a nice guy. But you should really research the history and current status of both entities before you embarrass yourself again.
The EU is a glorified trading bloc that can only dream of the integration the UK achieved decades ago.
You shouldn't really draw comparisons again.
I thought there was some freedom for the countries constituing the United Kingdom, as it is for the countries constituing the E.U..
I was wrong.
The U.K. also appears to me as a very divided country on a major issue : Brexit vote :
52/48.
Consequence : a lot of unhappy people, as it shows here.
The 52 % can of course adapt the Vae victis principe :
" We are the winners, you lost, abide and shut up.".
With an opposition of 48%, I am not convinced it is the right way.
Open to conflicts.
Based on these facts is labelling the U.K. as a country one should dream of, in my opinion, rather overstated.
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7 minutes ago, DogNo1 said:
I am over 70 and spend more than 100,000 per month. I think that makes some contribution to the economy.
Every spending, at whatever age, is a contribution to the economy.
There is no amount or/and age fixed to be considered as a superior contributor.
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2 minutes ago, vogie said:Rest assured Luke, one day you will have your own good Queen Ursula from the royal house of von der Leyen, you already have your own anthem and currency. Just for example Scotland couldn't have left the EU by itself because it belongs to the island nation of the United Kingdom, where-as at the moment any one of the remaining 27 other nations that make up the EU can in theory leave. But that will not always be the case, slowly but surely you are being consumed by the mighty federal state of the EU, you will be locked in with no one to turn to soon.
Your personal speculations are interesting to read.
Just like all other ones ( positive or negative ) related to the future of the E.U..
In fact similar of the guesswork of what will happens to the U.K., starting next year.
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1 minute ago, vogie said:we all share the same monarch etc.
All members of the E.U. have the same European presidents, etc.
But they also have their own king or president, government, laws and legislations,
freedom of choice to stay or leave the E.U..
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11 minutes ago, vogie said:Only the UK can split the UK up
Did know that.
Thought the United Kingdom was the same as the European Union.
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4 hours ago, Tofer said:
There are none so blind as those that will not see......
Like that idiomatic expression.
So universal.
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3 minutes ago, kingdong said:Cause the citizens won,t complain,they,ve had a vast influx of migrants that will work, pay their taxes and support the eus aging populations,it might mean a small time period for them to assimilate into local customs such as learning clog dancing as opposed to dancing like a dervish but sure it,ll work out ok.
Interesting personal approach.
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Brexit talks still stuck because EU is asking too much, UK says
in World News
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An extrapolating of what I read here on T.V..
I must admit it isn't an absolute certainty.