Moruya

Wonder if he brought the donuts?

good one moruya, he was the one left that money for the court on the table, that time, accidentally. .

Actually he wasn't. Yet more lies from the usual suspects.

Pichit happened to be in the court at the same time as Thana Tasari handed the box of money to a court official in a closed room. The court official then took a photo of the money and handed the money back! Investigations into the alleged bribery took place a while later. Normal people may wonder why Thana was not arrested on the spot. As The Nation said at the time the reason the Judge found Pitchit guilty was

The court believed Pichit and Suphasri were also "working closely" with Thana as all of them appeared at the court on that day.

"They kept talking to one another prior to Thaksin's and Pojaman's arrival at the court, and thus they must be regarded as one team."

Bearing in mind that they were working as Thaksin and his ex-wifes legal team there was probably a very good reason for them beeing at the court together.

Calling him a liar is a bit harsh - probably an honest mistake..

Noppadon is the one who attempted to sell the Pra Viharn temple to Cambodia for Thaksin and miraculously avoided serving his prison sentence

In this world of ever shortenning new bites forever repeating themselves on TV and PC ticker tales ad nauseum, this type of short story is perfect.

Coup, headlines, reaction, boredom, next story.

Absolutely perfect for the numpties that the BBC employs nowadays and longer stories just confuse modern journos as happened in the MH370 saga with CNN

Methinks Prayuth is gonna make the mother of all Unity governments with this assembled rabble.

Either that or he's going to lock them all up until it's all over

An honest politician is an oxymoron. Gen. P has a very unenviable task ahead of him. Maybe he should take a leaf out of China's book and make political corruption a capital offense?

Not a bad idea.

There are many rules relating to corruption, voting, behaviour in parliament that need a short sharp shock

Sort of like Thaksin's war on drugs that certain people here keep banging on about..

The Bangkok elites can get to shoot their political enemies for free in the name of fighting drugs corruption.

Your mind must be a real mess if you join the dots on what I said and got what you said.

Thaksin's war on drugs was a disgrace and is just one small part of why the nation is in a mess.

I don't care who is guilty of corruption - but if in government it should mean immediate action - suspension from work - followed by a full investigation and severe punishment

BBC just interviewed US Ambassador Kristie Kenny

q: It was your Government that supplied the Thai Military with the means to take over the Country

a: We have had a very long relationship blah, blah, blah

Screen freezes.

The US military gave Payuth a stern demeanour and a telephone?

Left to face the music while the boss family cowards run and hide as normal.

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Sacrificial on the lam

Methinks Prayuth is gonna make the mother of all Unity governments with this assembled rabble.

Either that or he's going to lock them all up until it's all over

An honest politician is an oxymoron. Gen. P has a very unenviable task ahead of him. Maybe he should take a leaf out of China's book and make political corruption a capital offense?

Not a bad idea.

There are many rules relating to corruption, voting, behaviour in parliament that need a short sharp shock

Methinks Prayuth is gonna make the mother of all Unity governments with this assembled rabble.

Either that or he's going to lock them all up until it's all over

The quality of PT's legal teams seems to be piss poor. They have many people claiming to be "legal experts" who regularly make pronouncements to the media interpreting the law on Constitution in a self-serving manner that often makes no legal sense. Then they claim it is not fair when the judgements go against them. The B2.2trn Borrowing Bill and the voiding of the 2 Feb elections are cases in point. There is no way the court could have ruled otherwise in either of those cases.

The mentality is the same as the first Thaksin government when they could fix and intimidate their way out of legal corners and get just about anything passed. Sorry, the times have changed and the momentum is now against you. So you need cogent legal arguments to win cases now.

In this case, the main argument they are putting forward is that they would like the NACC to postpone the case indefinitely, whereas an impeachment case against a sitting PM is obviously a priority. They disadvantaged Yingluck and made her disrespect the NACC by telling her not to bother show up to the first hearing to obtain the evidence against her but the NACC was generous enough to give her the evidence anyway and extend the time for her to respond by 15 days.

Now she will have to face the consequences of her actions (or lack of them) and the incompetence of her "legal experts".

That's all very true.

In fact half their legal team has either been imprisoned or should be.

Nopadon for trying to sell off part of Thailand to Hun Sen and the Pastry Box Boy who has served his sentence.

The amnesty bill was a disaster too

Long may the team continue it's role.

Of the four regions of Thailand the North historically has the highest rate of suicide, hanging being the method of choice. The North is of course the poorest of the four regions, the Central Region being relatively wealthy. The Bangkok banks have made the current predicament of many Thais in the North particularly severe.

Farmers are staying home being patient, biding their time while the elites slug it out in Bangkok. Farmers are too smart to allow themselves to be exploited by the PDRC and the DP against the government which is making every effort to assist them.

If the DP by some force majeure should win an election, farmers know they are screwed. If the so-called "People's Council" comes to pass, the farmers know their political allies in Bangkok will be purged from politics, the government and, very likely, the country itself.

http://www.academia.edu/248988/Suicide_In_the_North_of_Thailand

How many Thai farmers do you actually know?

Have you ever met one?

My Thai friends have taken me up into the hills outside Chiang Mai to visit villages and to meet villagers, to see three-room school buildings, and to visit the homes of people whose dwellings are constructed over dirt floors. The further one goes into the forests, the more unpleasant the experience becomes.

The farmers and their families are staying home because they have the political awareness not to be exploited by the virulent opponents of the government, which also shows the solid and unified support the government will get if the chronic opposition of the EC to a new election can be overcome.

they maybe farmers in Thailand, but I'd wager they aren't Thai farmers.

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Tell the EC to cease its systematic and premeditated obstructionism toward any election this year so the country can go out to vote. Let the people of 'Thailand, the Thai people, vote. No thugs at the polls. Just vote. The Thai people. Let them vote.

the people you describe you met and call thai farmers are staying home because they can't vote.

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Aye lad.

FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: Aye, very passable, that, very passable bit of risotto. SECOND YORKSHIREMAN: Nothing like a good glass of Château de Chasselas, eh, Josiah? THIRD YORKSHIREMAN: You're right there, Obadiah. FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN: Who'd have thought thirty year ago we'd all be sittin' here drinking Château de Chasselas, eh? FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: In them days we was glad to have the price of a cup o' tea. SECOND YORKSHIREMAN: A cup o' cold tea. FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN: Without milk or sugar. THIRD YORKSHIREMAN: Or tea. FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: In a cracked cup, an' all. FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN: Oh, we never had a cup. We used to have to drink out of a rolled up newspaper. SECOND YORKSHIREMAN: The best we could manage was to suck on a piece of damp cloth. THIRD YORKSHIREMAN: But you know, we were happy in those days, though we were poor. FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: Because we were poor. My old Dad used to say to me, "Money doesn't buy you happiness, son". FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN: Aye, 'e was right. FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: Aye, 'e was. FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN: I was happier then and I had nothin'. We used to live in this tiny old house with great big holes in the roof. SECOND YORKSHIREMAN: House! You were lucky to live in a house! We used to live in one room, all twenty-six of us, no furniture, 'alf the floor was missing, and we were all 'uddled together in one corner for fear of falling. THIRD YORKSHIREMAN: Eh, you were lucky to have a room! We used to have to live in t' corridor! FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: Oh, we used to dream of livin' in a corridor! Would ha' been a palace to us. We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish tip. We got woke up every morning by having a load of rotting fish dumped all over us! House? Huh. FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN: Well, when I say 'house' it was only a hole in the ground covered by a sheet of tarpaulin, but it was a house to us. SECOND YORKSHIREMAN: We were evicted from our 'ole in the ground; we 'ad to go and live in a lake. THIRD YORKSHIREMAN: You were lucky to have a lake! There were a hundred and fifty of us living in t' shoebox in t' middle o' road. FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: Cardboard box? THIRD YORKSHIREMAN: Aye. FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: You were lucky. We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t' mill, fourteen hours a day, week-in week-out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home our Dad would thrash us to sleep wi' his belt. SECOND YORKSHIREMAN: Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at six o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of 'ot gravel, work twenty hour day at mill for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle, if we were lucky! THIRD YORKSHIREMAN: Well, of course, we had it tough. We used to 'ave to get up out of shoebox at twelve o'clock at night and lick road clean wit' tongue. We had two bits of cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at mill for sixpence every four years, and when we got home our Dad would slice us in two wit' bread knife. FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN: Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah. FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: And you try and tell the young people of today that ..... they won't believe you. ALL: They won't!

I see the daengophiles are out with their half-cocked conspiracy theories once again.

The truth of the matter is that Sukhumband's reaction to the legal action is how someone with honour should react to the courts. Classy

Yingluck, on the other hand, is classless

so how many thousands against 20mln voters, millions, who were prevented from voting and millions intimidated by armed and violent mob?

If you want to quote stupid and irrelevant figures then you should refer to the majority of voters that DIDN'T vote for Yingluck

Please give us a link to where the counters say that the PTP got the highest votes than they ever did in the Feb 2 election

I though the final figures where never released

Indeed.

Yingluck polled the same in 2014 as she did in 2011

Zero

"Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra insisted that she has not considered taking a break from politics in the near future"

Of course not.....And why should she even consider it?.......Just because the PAD-Dem's want her gone so they can improve their electoral chances?

The coup-mongers try to spin the story that they have had an effect, and the PTP will have a reduced majority.....Wishful thinking to the extreme....The electoral base of Ms. Y. and the PTP have strengthened immeasurably in the face of anti-democracy noise and acting-out.

Her support has magnified to such an extent, that the DP really want her gone....

But that is all self-serving rhetoric and posturing.

The PAD-Dem's would be better served, by re-considering their own leadership. Their penchant for pointing everywhere but themselves as the cause of electoral futility, continues to haunt them.

"And why should she even consider it?" She already has - How about doing the honourable thing having presided over a massive amount of lying and cheating, ignoring the horrendous amount of corruption, and overseeing all the deaths and injuries

"coup-mongers" - don't you ever stop polluting the threads with your nonsensical BS? Losing half the voters represents an increase in the voting base? Not in my maths class.

"But that is all self-serving rhetoric and posturing" - that's about the limit of your posts.

Tell me - who represents that PAD part of your "PAD-Dems" nonsense that you pollute every thread with?

I'd venture to say that if any of us was given 3 days to peruse,, and prepare to address 289 additional pages we'd be a bit miffed too I know I would... 289 pages of legalese to respond to.. but thats the plan... by the non independent agencies withhold the paper till the last minute then refuse the opportunity for redress... gimme a break... independent...? Laughable given the pedestrian way they have prosecuted things in the past... I'lll bet they are all chuckling in their noodle bowls... pathetic really

I could be wrong, but from what I read last week, this statement might be a little economical with the truth. YL may well have only had 3 days to view those documents, but that could well be down to her legal team. As part of their case for submitting the second extension request, they asked for extra time to consider the 280 +/- pages, so they must have had them at least 10 days ago. On the other hand, if YL had appeared on the day requested, I believe but may be wrong, she would have received everything there and then.

As I say, I could be wrong

If I remember correctly, if the defendant fails to attend the initial hearing then he/she has no right to the documents.

The NACC made an exception in Yingluck's case and provided the paperwork to her legal team.

If anything she has been treated more than fairly and is now doing everything she can to paint the commission black.

She is in danger of contempt

I'm not convinced that hot tea and biscuits followed by deer stalker and investigation is in the NHRW's job description

Tell me again, who was running the country and who ignored the advice of the Election Commission?

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I think we can safely look a bit earlier than that.

The PTP cheating and conniving in the house over at least 3 bills brought the people out on the street that caused this.

Therefore the PTP sinners can foot the bill

Before I post I will say I do not support either side in this political nightmare ... I support whatever is right for the people of Thailand.

Anyway "The Power of Change" ... what a load of b/s. This man has no idea about how to effect change. You do not do it by violent protest, by denying people their right to make a living (BKK shutdown), by denying people their democratic right to vote, by saying he wants "non elected" people to govern the country, by being backed by the BKK money brokers, by saying he wants "rid" of the Thaksin clan etc etc. Why has he not gone to the negotiating table ... because this is not about compromise this is about POWER.

As for this latest blatant piece of marketing ... <deleted>. He has lost face in his abject failure to force the Government from office and Thai's don't like losing face do they!!! So he is now resorting to gloss and glitz to try and make amends. There will be no statue of Suthep in the future. Now if you want a "role model" for political change then let's take the late and still great Nelson Mandela ... he was a true "agent of change" ... Mt Suthep is not fit to be named in the same breath but he might just want to take a look at NM and see what lessons he can learn.

"Why has he not gone to the negotiating table..."

I might suggest alternatively, why is he not in Parliament?...At least there he will be cast in the political-frame that reflects his relative representation of the countries' electorate.

Why does he deserve to sit at a negotiating table with an electoral majority, when he only represents a minority?..........In the last Parliament, it was about 2-1 difference between the minority Opposition and governing majority.....Coup-mongering and noise does not bestow equality, other than with his user friendly independent organizations and judiciary.....And that is the reason they are exercising Opposition via that route and avoiding parliament at all costs..

That said, is anyone wondering as much as I am, who or what is behind this guy...What makes him and his fellow leaders so audacious and obstreperous. There is support from somewhere, that gives them an arrogant cockiness that wouldn't be there otherwise.

One can only assume that you read as badly as you write and that your understanding of things is therefore incomplete and inaccurate.

The opposition were indeed in parliament however the speakers of both houses cheated in debates, cheated in voting schedules and cheated in the very acts of law.

The "ruling" party cheated by voting for more than 1 person and were in cahoots with the speakers.

The ruling party were trying to pardon 1 man because of his complete ownership of members of that party

What is the point of parliament if this happens?

This is why people took to the streets.

This is why we need reform

And all you add to the debate is the hourly bleats about "coups" and "elites". I can get better at Dusit Zoo

Political cheats should be harshly dealt with to prevent repeat.

Is Yingluck late again?

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That's not the Senate, that's the coup part of the Senate created by the 2006 coup.

So yeh, political cheats should be dealt with harshly.

The elected part of the senate, with the democratic mandate is out for election, and I'm expecting the Electoral Commission to block that vote, leaving only the coup plotters in the Senate, long enough to attempt their coup against Yingluk.

"The coup part of the senate"?

What on earth is that?

The senate speaker should be strung up for raping democracy

And the media drumbeat of aggrandizing the anti-democracy movement keeps-on-a-going.

For starters, lets correct the headline...... Coup-mongers are not protesters..... As mentioned so many times, they use 'protests against the Govt., and phony focus on issues" as mere cover for their true intentions of seizing power they cannot achieve electorally. They would rather not display this intent however...Especially to International coverage...They just hope their abnormal Independent organizations and judiciary appear normal to International observers.

Lips magazine is an Elitist rag produced for the wealthy who think they deserve to own Thailand. Its latest issue is a hopeless piece of anti-democrat nonsense.

The media appear to laud the magazine and the anti-democrat leadership by breathlessly blathering about what a hit Suthep has created for the magazine. Reporters even tripped off to Lumpini Park to find - what a surprise! - that the magazine was a hit amongst anti-democrats at the fortress surrounded by the military protection and more than 2,000 thug-guards.

Back in the days after the Army slaughtered red shirts in 2010, this magazine managed to celebrate Army spokesman Colonel Sansern Kaewkamnerd who was the voice of the Abhisit regime during the crackdown and continually advocated hard line responses to red shirts and justified murder.

How bitter and twisted you are that Suthep has displaced Yingluck on the covers of magazines.

The babe of Isaan usurped by Suthep of the South

Get used to it

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"Speaking at a PDRC event at Lumpini Park in Bangkok yesterday to raise funds for rice farmers..."

Talk about trying to put "lipstick on a pig". Seeking to whitewash coup-monger mongering, by characterizing it as something else.

The last several times they called their speeches a "seminar and a Forum"....Now it is a phony portrayal as in above quote. Being one of fund-raising for a voter segment they normally call 'buffalo's. And calling their Lumpini Park stuff an "event"

It is annoying to see ones intelligence assaulted like that. Gives the impression they have a very low opinion of readership, or they think all their readers are PAD-Dem's who would buy this stuff.

This latter point demonstrated in the following quote:.."...as the people are not ready to go voting. They want reform." ...... Confusing his accolytes with the "people at large".......

Their efforts to sell such nonsense in the face of supreme efforts to nullify an election, where those "people" rendered their opinions, is again "intelligence insulting". Voter and "people" assessment and conclusions about the anti-democratic idiocy of Suthep and his shadowy supporters is very clear, and therefore needs to be negated by these anti-democrats.......

Their efforts to avoid that vote with the assistance of their friends on the CC, is very understandable.

Have you mistakenly posted this garbage in the wrong thread or are you just trying to divert attention away from the red loons?

This thread is about a red shirt rally. We can all guess what it will be about. I will post the agenda below:

1. Make threats to people who do things that they don't like

2. Praise the murderers of innocent children.

3. Threaten the courts and other independent bodies

4. Hand out the telephone numbers of judges and other people so that they may be directly threatened

5. Talk about building an army of several hundred thousand people trained and armed

6. Wear their red and white insignia while they discuss secession

7. You will hear NOTHING about the people they claim to represent such as the rice farmers

8. Claim again and again that they are building & protecting democracy

Indeed - especially when they don't even vote for their own leaders and get selected as party list candidates because of their paid support of Thaksin