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Please find attached 'Health Certificate for Work Permit' used by Bangkok & Chonburi offices as of December 2019.

Our local offices now stipulate that the heath checks must be carried out only at a Government Hospital, not a street corner 'quack/clap' clinic ????

I know that it is theoretically possible, but does anyone know someone who has successfully applied for PR with only 3 years of consequetive annual extensions?

More than 20,000 People die in road traffic accidents in Thailand every year - No one seams to worry and no one seams to care enough to implement the necessary regulations and enforcement to prevent this carnage.

51 people (as of 26 April 2020) die from COVID-19 in Thailand - and everyone looses their mind.

That is not even a 1 in a million chance of death from COVID-19 in a country of 65 million people.

Why are people in Thailand worrying so much about this virus, when there are so many other things that can kill you today?

Pattaya - thoughts come to mind....

It's like stumbling across a recently deceased torture victim killed by asphyxia.  A 'Plastic bag over the head' job. 

Pattaya has had its essential breathing air 'Tourism' taken away from it and has quickly died.

A quick check for vital signs reveal No heartbeat, no breathing. Pupils fixed and dilated.

However, the death has just occurred - there is a short window of opportunity of around 2-5 minutes where life can be restarted in a human being without permanent brain damage. A good first aider trained in AED use and BLS will stand a good chance of bringing the previously healthy patient back to life. 

The same goes for Pattaya - the death just occurred. There's a short window of opportunity of around 2-6 months where business life can be restarted without permanent damage to the existing economy and mass closures in the tourism service industry. ????

I broke a tooth a few years ago...

I had the broken tooth fixed, but a small slither of the broken tooth had somehow got pushed deep into the gum and slowly started to cause an extremely painful abscess.

Here lies the issue - 'What is causing the abscess?'

Is there still a small piece of broken tooth hiding in your gums somewhere that is the cause of the abscess and subsequent infection?

A skilled and meticulous Periodontal surgeon needs to careful inspect the entire site around the infectious abscess to determine the underlying cause.

It's no good taking anti-biotics if the foreign body is still embedded in your gums - the infection will just flare up again no matter what antibiotic you use.

Whatever is causing the infection needs to be removed ASAP, before permanent damage is caused to the surrounding teeth and jaw bone.

Costs (approximate only for a local clinic not 5 star hospital)

Periodontal surgery 12K

Root canal surgery 3K per root (approx. 9K)

Temporary crown 3K

Permanent crown 12K

Others 3K

3 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

1. It depend upon if you actually have a multiple entry non-b visa or a extension of stay based upon working issued by immigration. A non-b visa would remain valid. A extension ends on the day you stop working.

2. Work permit offices are still open. But your situation depends upon number 1.

3. If you stay after your job ends and your extension is canceled you would be on a overstay.

 

Expanding on clause #3 in Obonjoe's reply above, I believe the current rule is that you have 24 hours to leave the country after the work permit is cancelled which can be extended by 7 days for THB1,900 at your nearest friendly immigration office.

However, I am not sure how immigration can implement the above rule at this current time, since many foreigners are unable to travel out of the Kongdom for a variety of reasons.

More likely, immigration will grant a 30 day extention either automatically or on production of a letter requesting a 30 day extention from your Embassy.

We are in un-charted territory as far as immigration visa rules ae concerned - Thankfully, the immigration office appreciates that foreigners are unable to comply with regulations for Force-Majeure reasons outside their control and are handling the situation in a reasonable manner. 

For many years, the regulations governing the operation and registration of Hotels in Thailand were largely ignored.

However, there is a lot of money to be made by local officials enforcing the law (for example 10,000 Baht/ day fine for every day the hotel remains open without a proper license) so many tourist areas have seen sporadic but ocasionally fierce enforcement of the Hotel registration acts.

Pattaya got a massive shakedown about a year ago, with dozens of operators either closed down, fined or imprisonned. 

Registration is fairly straighforward, but a massive paper chase. check out this link for more info https://pugnatorius.com/hotel-license/

Hmm, I remember another expensive government advertising campaign that wasn't very successfull.

It even involved delivering a leaflet to every household in the nation, but to no avail... 

uk_gov_brochure_stay_in_eu.pdf

Hi Alex,

Based on your stated date of submission for your PR application pack and additional documents requested in April 2019, your PR application document pack is likely now going around all the ministries involved for approval and vetting. This process can take easily half a year.

It's a guess, but if all the ministries are now happy with your application, you'll be called back for batch interviews sometime in spring this year (March?).

Understand that the PR department does not process PR applications one at a time - everyone to be considered in one year’s intake, are processed at one time. Miss those interviews, and you get pushed back to the following year.

You can also call the lawyer helping you with your application to chat with the PR department to see how you application is coming along - perhaps they have called you to ask for more information and you missed the call.

It’s common to not get that much notice of being called to interview - in my instance, it was simply a Thai language phone call from an admin official at the CW PR department to the phone number listed on your application.

You may wish to answer daytime calls (Mon-Fri) quite promptly during the next few months.

Somehow, my grab wallet works as a foreigner.

Perhaps I should keep quiet about it...????

I'm going to call BS about it only working on Thai ID cards beginning with a 1(Thai citizen)

It should also work with 2(Thai citizen with birth registered after 15 days) and a 3 (some older Thai citizens)

On 12/3/2019 at 10:52 AM, mortenaa said:

That is also been my understanding, as it involves a stamp in both the PR book and the passport. 

Correct- Confirmed by my departure through Bangkok SVM Airport a few days ago.

Both your passport and your PR book must have the VISA stamp in it.

It is normal practice to have these put in your passsport and PR book BEFORE you arrange travel out of the kingdom by visiting your local immigration office.

On departure...

Both your passport and PR book are checked and both stamped by the immigration officer. 

You will also be given a TM6 to fill in for your departure. This is also stamped with your departure date.

The small tear portion off the TM6 is used for departure and is retained by the IMO.

The large portion of the TM6 is used for your return to Thailand.

The 'Alien Book' was not requested by the IMO.

Hope this info helps.

Your work permit is specific to your declared location of work in your work permit. 

Normally this is a precise, specific, street address.

Thus, even if you work in the building next door, then if that address is not in your work permit, then you are in breech of your work permit rules and could easily find yourself arrested on the spot.

What to do so as to allow you to work in other locations:-

1. Have another location entered into the work permit.
2. Have a generalised location, for example 'Teaching in University classrooms' added to your work permit.
3. Teaching diving in hotel swimming pools.
4. Teaching watersports in the Gulf of Siam.
5. Teaching student pilots at airports in Thailand.

Get a good lawyer who deals with the work permit office to help create the correct wording that permits you to do what you need to do and which keeps the labor office happy.

I have even seen illegal professions such as 'Tour Guide' worded in this manner by describing what a tour guide does but not calling the work a 'tour guide' - ( yes, even alternative duties can be added )

Don't try to be too clevers and add many work locations or duties at the same time - you will confuse the poor overworked officials who staff government offices.

Hope this information helps.

What is an intermediary bank charge/Third party fee/correspondent bank charge.

Most customer’s banks send international wire transfers funds directly to other banks.

However, sometimes when your bank does not have a direct relationship with the other bank, then your bank pays the monies through a correspondent (intermediary) bank of their choice.

The correspondent banks are usually large international banks based in the world’s leading banking centers. In carrying out this service for the originating bank, the intermediary/correspondent banks make an additional ‘double’ bank transaction charge.

Thus, some lesser known local banks or banks that do not have a relationship with the bank receiving the funds need Intermediary/corresponding bank(s) to process international wire transfers, and this will result in an additional charge. The intermediary bank appointed by the transferring bank may deduct the fee from the payment that is being transferred, and that is why some times the amount you receive is less than the mount you transferred.

If your bank carries out regular international business with the country you are receiving the funds in and thus has a direct relationship with our bank and other banks across the world, then no third bank (intermediary bank) charge will occur.

Avoiding Intermediary Bank Charges

To avoid this charge, use a world famous international bank, most of them can make direct international wire transfers to any country in the world without using an intermediary bank - then no third (intermediary) bank charge will occur. 

Since the sending bank has not sent the funds directly to your Thai bank as your instructed them to do, you can claim a refund of the intermediary bank fees from them by visiting the bank in person with a copy of the incoming SWIFT transfer fund showing them how they messed up the transfer.

Your local sending bank counter clerk may be unfamiliar with how their bank transfers funds overseas and as to if they need to use an intermediary bank for the transfer and even what the intermediary bank fee is. You will need to speak to the manager or someone high up in the bank who knows about how the overseas funds transfer system and their need to use an intermediary bank to get your refund. If you have problems in the UK, get the Bank Onbudsman onto them if they give you any <deleted>.

A restrained explanation by the Lord Chief Justice, explaining how the Brexit debacle is causing everyone to ignore the elephant in the living room. Namely what history tells us happens when a population loses trust in their traditional representatives. 

I never thought I'd see the day that the Kingdom opened up for tourism. Unbelievable !

Tha Thai language simply says "does not have a visa to come into the kingdom" 

For proof of ID...

• For banks, only your original passport will do.
• For government offices, they will want whatever piece of ID or company paperwork (plus 4 copies) that you haven't brought with you that day. ????

Sounds like she got hoodwinked by ye olde 'Spanish Prisoner' scam... 

14 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s called playing to the home front politics.

 

How about the US presenting some credible proof to back the administration’s accusations, though problems with credibility might be a problem.

 

 

It would be a mistake to under estimate the Persian/Iranian involvement in this matter.

Along time ago, I personally worked with Iranian researchers studying radio, electronics & microwave systems for the development of the new Iranian cruise missile systems at Birmingham University in 1981, after Khomeini became Supreme Leader of the country in December 1979.

So you here are the logical decisions that need to be made:-

• Some goat loving Yemeni's developed it >>> or the Iranians. 
• It was launched off the back of a camel 1,000Km away in Houthi controlled territory in North-West Yemen >>>or it was lanched somewhat closer.

For a better technical analysis that I agree with, see the link below:-

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/16/yemen-houthis-claim-responsibility-for-saudi-oil-field-attacks

My Moms travelling over to stay in my rented building in a few weeks time.

She will have no doubt have filled in the TM6 card on arrival, listing our address details, so Immigration will know where she is.

We've already been given a shake down by the BIB and had everyone dragged down to Jomtien Immigration to see what can be extorted out of us a few months back, even though there was nothing wrong. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. No money changed hands, so all the BIB were <deleted> as hell.

I already have online access to the immigration web site, so she'll be registered within 24 hours of arrival, a printed out copy of the TM30 report will be given to her to keep in her handbag together with her passport just in case she gets checked. I don't want my 80 year old mom being hassled by the non-smilers at Jomtien I.O.

Another copy of the TM30 online report will be stuck on the wall near the front door.

If this is what is needed then so be it - it all seams a bit pointless to me. I mean...

...I can't see how all these TM30 measures will help stop crime?

Isn't it obvious to the powers that be in the Thai government that criminals won't report their whereabouts?

Are they delusional?

'should be fkin obvious, <deleted>.  etc.

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7 minutes ago, taninthai said:

I reckon I need to get out more been around in los over 10 years and never met any ferang like this anywhere????????????????????

In the normal professional business community in Bangkok - high end professional expats are relatively common place.

You know the type - they're been here forever. Kids go to international school, Company car/house/maid, etc.

There used to be loads of expats like this around in Bangkok before the crash of '97 - then a big clear out occurred and it’s never been the same again.

Think of what you would consider to be a professional in your own country - this is the approximate profile of the expat the CW PR team are looking for.

Doctors, bankers, big businessmen, International lawyers, other respected high end professionals.

These are the type of expat the Thai government would like to encourage to stay here and help contribute to the development of Thailand.

What they're not after is normal expats who are looking to obtain PR to make their lives’ easier. 

Forget about all the other humanitarian ways of application listed as possibilities - in reality, they don't exist.  It is (surprise, surprise!) all about your proven finacial value and your potential to contribute to the development of Thailand. 

17 hours ago, watcharacters said:

 

Based on your experience and knowing what you know about it today, would you recommend it to others?

 

Yes - but...

• Use an experienced Lawyer with proven track record of processing PR applications.
• Forget the published minimum requirements - everyone I saw at CW for final board level interviews were 15 years+ in LOS, 100K plus salaries, Thai wife and kids more than 10 years, degree qualified, professionals, company owners, full Thai read/write fluent 'bi-lingual' 

Else don't bother - you're likely wasting your time.