RedBullHorn

fishing with a bait and rod or cage trap is ok but not with eletrodes, zapping fishes is illegal by law and punishable with a fine...and we don't do this in other people ponds, we do this in streams near paddy fields...

yes, WE enter the water to do this, usually in the dark past midnight to avoid authorities like village head, village security gang or fishery department...normally i'm the one holding the small glass and lao khao

A 12v motocycle battery (working condition), an invertor, 2m x 2 strong bamboo rods with metal sticking out at rods end... optional (usually left hand rod as right hand is the bell switch rod) equipt with a hand-size scooping net so not to bend down to collect the stunt fishes, 2 x 3m of 2x0.5 soft wire, door-bell switch, black wiring tape,15 LED head lamp and a collection basket with rope to tie to waist, a miscellanous bag made from feed sack to put knife, kup kam & lao khao

i stop doing the maggots tray because i couldn't sleep at night with the noises of splashing water made from catfishes standing by to catch the maggots... from all ponds.

tingtong, chicken/duck manure is ok too, but moderately, monitor your water quality...

I use to do this: build a big tray with a makeshift roof with grass panel, the size of half a plywood board about 1m x 1m, fill the tray with ฿200 worth off chicken bones that still got some flesh attached bought from chicken rice stalls, it cost ฿10-15 per carcass, suspend the tray with roof over the edge of the pond with bamboo pole (the roof must be build is such a way that it will hide the tray from the sights of birds to discourage buffet), the chicken bones goes bad super easily and fast, houseflies lay eggs and i got millions of high protein maggots falling off the edges from all sides of the tray for days...

motocrazy, trail & error, no risk no gain, do what you need to do ... but at my level, there's just no room for error or else i will loose big.

it's not only the water, it's about what you feed them. """The exclusive use of chicken offal/stomachs increased as the market price of catfish fell. Offal was transported from the factory in un-refrigerated lorries and could take many hours to reach its destination. Some feed was kept overnight for the following days' feeding programme and, when temperatures were high, the feed was likely to become rancid before it was fed to the fish""", then your are guarantee of an outbreak of the famous jaundice disease. Been there, done that...

I made 900'000 Baht per year with 8 rai of ponds for the past 6 years, if you trust your gut feeling then go ahead...

good luck...Bro~

tingtong, if you're using 25% range, that's #3 pellet, FCR range 1.53:1- 1.6:1 ...... should change to #2 30% "all purpose'' catfish feed and avoid herbivorous/Tilapia feed.

believe it or not, the brand is Fish First, catfish feed, and all pellet #1-2-3 size is 25% protein...

i try to avoid it, but wife can only buy that in 15km range, and as i said she cant drive the pickup (safer for all!!) nor makes in this current size operation to pay for delivery to someone from 25 or so km distance, where the nearest place to buy decent feed.

once i am back in April, we are changing again to 32 and 30% protein feeds, but this current 1000 fish will probably just grow up mainly on this stuff. they got some good feed in the beginning though, while my stock lasted....

Dont worry ,1000 cats its not somuch they wil grow fast to with 25 % to,only feed them a litle more.

The cats eat everythink what i do cut gras kowschit pork schit let it dry ,and in the pool .

Yeah right~ wait till the day all you catfishes are hit with the outbreak of Jaundice Disease !!!

I guarantee you won't be crying tears, you'll be crying blood...Pigs manure in moderation is ok, but cattle manure is discourage...

"...only feed them a little more" - It will greatly affect the time, ADG and profit margin.

tingtong, i used Fish First, they have #1 32%, #2 30%, #3.......

tingtong, if you're using 25% range, that's #3 pellet, FCR range 1.53:1- 1.6:1 ...... should change to #2 30% "all purpose'' catfish feed and avoid herbivorous/Tilapia feed.

Yes, we only use pellet size #1 (32%) and #2 (30%), Thai Union "all purpose" catfish feed has got around FCR 1.41:1 meaning a sack of 20kg feed convert 14kg or less, of weight gain and its pellet size aren't standard enough compare to more reputable companies and i don't like black colour feed because my fishes prefered the lighter colour ones.

Premium feed that cost more than ฿500, when use by the Pros, will achieve weight gain of between 16-17.5kg against a 20kg sack, my best result with ONLY feed is 1.13:1, and 1.078:1 if i integrate my farm.

The metal netting basket weight 5kg + catfishes 50kg + more fishes goes in to cover the weight lose when fishes dehydrate water... 2kg = 57kg on the scale, you will only be paid 50kg.

You will have more negotiating power only if you order by trailer truck load of 650/750/850 sacks (6 wheeler and 10 wheeler trailer truck) and as mentioned before in the past, you can't order straight from the company without bypassing district or regional wholesalers with exclusive rights whom control the sales of pellet feed or retailers.

Hi motocrazy and greeting to you my friend tingtong ,

The secret to a successful catfish farming in Thailand is that you must disregard the wholesaler point of view that they want you to rise to their preference size of 4,5,6 fishes/kg. You must hit size #3 to secure a good profit margin, as you feed your fishes everyday you will notice their growth, once you see a good 3 fingers head...you have #3 for sure, call your wholesaler to lock and confirm your queue date to harvest at least 10 days away after the moment you confirm you have a small volume of size #3, by luring with feed as bait during feeding time and netting with a swing net as many times as possible until the fishes don't trust you/the netting spot and you average out their sizes, a trained eye like me don't need swing netting , then you will tell your wholesaler on the due date it will be a tiny bit of #3 or it will be #4,5,6... don't tell them the truth ! Why at least 10 days ? Because they may have queue on the 5th or 7th day prior to actual harvesting day or they may jump queue for you accordingly to meet their sales quota. So by the 7th day prior to your harvest, you will have a reasonable percentage of size #3 (about 7-10%) and a sizable volume of 4,5 fishes/kg.

If you are getting ฿42/kg, i'm guessing that you're in the northern region...

Regards & best of luck !

RBH (not RHB...lol)

I was drunk and my study room got burn down by accident (plug in the wrong hole and causes faulty electrical short circuit, breaker works but socket still burns ), all my charts are gone...oh well~ never mind...got it repair and repainted the walls. Still waiting for the big boys to give the go-ahead to raise piggies.

By the way...anybody sold their stocks between the lead up to New year and Chinese New year period, should have hit & ran when the period price was up (if you can get a queue)...

Thanks for the replies apart from the one where she worked hard let her have it. I came back to a @$%^ pit. I have worked for four months clearing overgrown weeds (in winter with no rain) it is now 2 rai of soil. I restocked the pond because they ate the 1000 fish I wanted to grow to full size but no they take four and eat profit. I left with 60 chickens and many chicks, return to none as half a kilo of rice was too expensive to keep them.

I am 38 she is 32 and she has lived in the UK with me but as soon as the house was paid for it all changed. You read stories of OH mine is different, that's what I thought, she would go shopping with my mum and make sure mum carried nothing etc etc.

Beware I chose a girl who was not in the sex industry,no tattoos she wouldn't even shout across the street as it's "not a nice thing to do". Stunned absolutely stunned.

Scully, may i ask you how old you are?

Your points are so ridiculous about your pigs, chickens and chicks. You should know now that girls don't have to have Tattoos to identify them as bar girls, or other sex workers. It seems to me that you're staying in the northeast, so please read my story:

I moved to this country ten years ago, well I guess I wasn't that naive as you obviously are.I used to live one year in my wife's village trying to understand this country better. Women were offering me money to find a "foreign husband" for her, offering me 50,000 baht.

They usually hang a Buddha around their neck, send them to a tourist destination and are aware that all they can sell is their Pu..aeeh body.

Some of them do come back being married to a foreigner, some even send money every month to support her, not knowing of her kids and her Thai gig.

You were right, you can't be a legal pig farmer in this country, but if you're thinking to sell the pigs, take the money and run you might be seriously wrong.

You could have an "accident" and some of your pigs will be slaughtered after your death to make a Tamboon for you. It's really time for you to wake up to realize that Thai women aren't that far away from other nationalities.

If your woman isn't a bar girl and you could communicate with her, so where did she learn English first hand? At school? I pretty much doubt it.

About your elephant in your "Avatar', I'd reckon to get in touch with an International organization to get your Chang back where it was.

In addition I'll have to tell you that some more Thais now might think that all foreigners do have a mental problem. Why don't you just go back to your country of origin, get some education and come back later........

Either you're blind or ............ OP posted he's 38 and she's 32. I think you should learn the analytic mind from poster #20 or shut your gap if you've nothing better to say.

Where's the DISLIKE button when i needed it ~

This is what i did...

Contract the backhoe to dig 1.5m x 400sqm, then i told the driver to creat multiple slope steps so the machine could dig down further. down to 4m we hit water...so i instructed him to creat another step slope and dig 5m more below the water table...Done ! Paid and bye bye...

Hi Guys,

I haven't posted in a few years...gots to get the house payments down far enough before i can leave and try a life of farming like we once did before the war in cambodia. We have two plots of land, 65ha in kompong cham, 75ha near sisophon where 50ha gots 3plus years of eucalyptus, 25 has been cleared and plowed. I'm heading to down to visit and recon a 17ha plot northeast of siam reap closer to thai border.

I would really like to meet all of you one of these days, if anything bbq, charred meat, and beer session just to listen to you fish farm veterans.

love reading all your comments and wisdom of fish rearing... I would really like to try my hands on tilapia and catfish. There is a guy in florida who started tilapia in a big plastic pool, don't think i can do the same in Portland, Oregon...too dayum cold!

Thanks guys and keep on posting. Thanks TT, by the time I start. I'll be to you as you to RBH and Ozzy now.

Sok

Farming catfishes its alot easyer than tilapai.

The catfish its 1000 times stronger than the tilapai,grow faster,its indipent how you feeding!

And they are realy strong when they past the 100 gram each fish.

Fore me you can never loose your money,bt cats farming.

I start to doing now catfish breeding.

If you like ,i can try some nice film video to send.

On the african way.

Post your video here, we'd like to see it

It helps when one is keeping his nose clean, stay low profile and under the radar...it has been a good 10 years of farming for me~

Here's the translated web page for convenient reading

Link

Only the live ones are sold at ฿300/kg (Chiang Rai rural)...the dead ones between ฿150-200/kg

Arrived yesterday~

All the way from Kathmandu, Nepal to Chiang Rai, Thailand in 25 days...

Gurkhas Khukuri knife - KHHI Max Xtreme.

5160 carbon spring steel, 3/8'' spine, full flat tang, rosewood handle w/ rivets

and razor sharp edge...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jswOvSLv018&list=UUHF6ViBaVgHcfS0QIx5O48g&index=1&feature=plcp

Where is your location for this price ? We're doing 65/kg in Chiang Rai.

Here is the link for price update,

http://ptg.igetweb.com/index.php?mo=3&art=494930

have it Google Webpage translate to English for furthen reading...

http://www.google.co...age_tools?hl=en

Scoll down to translate webpage section.

Sure hope you could write up another price calculator in English version, thanks.

...and i've no problem Google Translating the website to English.

Hey Superjacky, i think you are among the miracles that happen in this forum

I will definitely look you up when the time comes.

By the way, very professionally done website, love the details

You still haven't answer most of my questions and would be great if you could post the pictures here in the topic.

Top range feed or not isn't an issue, important is whether it is the litter of generic crossbreed (from 2 gene) which is the 3rd gene that we buy to grow-out OR are they the litter of the 3rd gene ?

i have 30 piglets for sale near korat city

people who are interested send me a email

More detail would be nice...crossbreed 2 or crossbreed 3, weight, age, vincinated, PRRS free ?

Latest...฿67/kg this week

(CPF.....฿68/kg)

Piglet 1st 16kg = ฿2000+ 67/kg