stopvt7

But I was the born yesterday!

That explains it all. Thanks.

Your welcome I enjoy given someone a good laugh!!

Haines - suggest you stop allowing other/s to write messages under your stopvt7 name. Your own english and your logic are difficult enough to follow. The schizophrenic element is annoying & creepy.

Lana

Their a lady here who knows what I'm talking about! She the one who told me about the Thai bag lady which was at a Bangkok meeting.

How was it a few condo owner attack old JCC board then they had VT7 stopped? Then after their election they had a special EGM to raise money to stop the VT7 build. After a EGM special resolution to raise the funds they fired the lawyer within 30 days. Then did nothing. How a few fooled many! But I was the born yesterday!

Dear prospero

Most conservative I know believe in zoning regulation and protecting the environment and Issue 9 is a zoning law to protect the Thailand's beach environment. VT7 knew the zoning requirements before they so-call purchase the land in front of JCC.

I wish NO harm to anyone. But, what make me work to protect the beaches and my rightful view is my dislike to see people think their above the law and better then other! All people are equal!!

Prospero enjoy your laugh!

Who did VT 7 buy that land from? What did they intend to do with the land? Don't you think this is interesting? Could JCC be in the middle of this? No one mentions that JCC reneged on their sales plan.

Do you remember "ripley" statement “Suddenly there were lots of "suits" prowling the building. Owners scampered about for information and were fed rumours and given red herrings to chase”. Do you think all the "suits" were need for a land sale? I don’t!

Have you ever been in a joint venture agreement negotiation? I have! I was around when all those suits spent day here in meetings. Then I was told by the JCC office all the "suits" move to a other location for more meeting. Then came a so-called sale statement. I was born but I was not born yesterday!

Dear prospero

Most conservative I know believe in zoning regulation and protecting the environment and Issue 9 is a zoning law to protect the Thailand's beach environment. VT7 knew the zoning requirements before they so-call purchase the land in front of JCC.

I wish NO harm to anyone. But, what make me work to protect the beaches and my rightful view is my dislike to see people think their above the law and better then other! All people are equal!!

Prospero enjoy your laugh!

Dear ThaiBob.

Now I understand why you're a democrat! Facts are confusing to your "independent thinking" twit mind! Here is a fact you need to faculty in your consciousness thought!

The Supreme Administrative Court did read Issue 9 maps before they made this statement: "Ministerial Regulation No. 9 .........................prescribed that the 200 meter line measured from the construction control line shown in the map .....................on the seaside (at MSL) ................shall be restricted from constructing of any building exceeding 14 meter high from road surface. Therefore, if the Construction Permit No. 162/2007 dated 28 November 2006 granted by the Defendant No. 1 to the Defendant No. 2 should appear to be unlawful against the Ministerial Regulation thereto as being claimed by the ten plaintiffs, the Court of First Instance should have sentenced this point of being unlawful, i.e. the judgment shall be focused on the permission of construction the building exceeding height limit by the Defendant No. 2. ..........

http://stopvt7.blogspot.com/search?updated...p;max-results=7

Once the Rayong court knew where to measure from why did they appoint a so called expert witness?

Dear surfer

You on to something! Issue 9 was written for tourism. Tourist can appreciates the oceans natural beauty and therapy. That would of been a better reasons to sue city hall.

In your tourist picture posted, why is not Obama walking? He is called the Messiah?

You need to measure into the sea?

ThaiBob, further back a other 100 meters to CCL!

ThaiBob

What you call the CCL in the sea on your picture, on the Issue 9 map, is calls "Borderline of the Construction Control Area"! You are Wrong!!

The Supreme Administrative Court was right when they wrote: "Ministerial Regulation No. 9prescribed that the 200 meter line measured from the construction control line shown in the map .....................on the seaside (at MSL) ......................... shall be restricted from constructing of any building exceeding 14 meter high from road surface. Therefore, if the Construction Permit No. 162/2007 dated 28 November 2006 granted by the Defendant No. 1 to the Defendant No. 2 should appear to be unlawful against the Ministerial Regulation thereto as being claimed by the ten plaintiffs, the Court of First Instance should have sentenced this point of being unlawful, i.e. the judgment shall be focused on the permission of construction the building exceeding height limit by the Defendant No. 2. Whilst the Administrative Court of First Instance ordered the provisional measure to cease construction before judgment, the building's base rocks were built, the construction did not reach the height limit of 14 meter above the road surface. Where the Administrative Court of First Instance issued the order of provisional measure to effect temporary protection by ceasing the entire construction is, therefore, in excess of what reasonable under the circumstances.

The Supreme Court, therefore, gives an order to amend the order of the Administrative Court of First Instance. That the Defendant No. 2 shall cease the construction performed, under the Work Permit No. 162/2007 dated 28 November 2007, on the part exceeding 14 meter height. On a temporary basis until the Court has ordered otherwise.

Mr. Vorapoj Visarutpich

Judge of Supreme Administrative Court"

The Supreme Administrative Court will decide!

PS: foget the party talk!

ThaiBob The statement "200 meter construction control line" is on the land. Because the 200 meters is measure from the construction control area onto the land the CCL is on the Land. !

Read the January 16, 2008 Rayong Court Order: "The Department of Civil Engineer and City Planning followed the Court's order and submitted its report which can be summarized that: Measurement must be started from the point of MSL having 0.00 meter. While measured from this point (MSL) outward to sea at the distance of 100 meter, it shall be the construction control area ..................................... And while measured from this point (MSL) toward the land to reach the building by another 100 meter, it shall be the distance from construction control area of 200 meter referred in Article 3 under the Ministerial Regulation 8 (B.E. 2519) amended by the Ministerial Regulation No. 9 (B.E. 2521) which restricts the construction of building over 14 meter from road surface. Measurement showed that the building of the Second Prosecuted Person is over 200 meter construction control line"

This line (CCL) must be on the land?

Or we could say the Judges are confused? Like Americans who support either Obama or McCain!!

I'm a conservative and I do not vote for socialist or liberals!

To ThaiBob

The Court or survey report never call the borderline area100 meter from MSL into the sea the Construction Control Line “CCL”. They call it area for construction restriction or building control area.

So please change you picture explanation!

Thaibob are you working for Barack? If so you pick a another looser to believe!

You missed some facts!

This why is I posted the drawing so that readers can get a clear, fair, unbiased representation of both sides (your's Vs the Court's) and not be bombarded by with propaganda or your "facts". And note that I did indicate your claim that MSL = CCL.

Dear ThaiBob / OhdLover

Your drawing added a lot of words to a clear well written regulation called Issue 9.

1. Such as measure into the sea 100 meters.

2 divide the 200 meter measurement in half and apply 100 meters on each side on MSL

3 Measure fom MSL to the “Borderline of the Construction Control Area” (the regulated area map outline) before you measure onto the land.

4. Thaibob is not measuring from MSL but he measures across it?

Pleases show me where you get this information? It is not in the regulation or on the map?

Or are you like city hall lawyer? When asked, said the arrow from the sea pointing toward the land on the map means you measure from MSL into the sea 100 meters. When asked in court where is this explained? He said “I just know!”

Please keep to the FACTS! Maybe this picture will help you understand the facts!!

You missed some facts!

Reread "Ministerial Regulation Issue 9: 3. "To specify the area within the 200 meters measurement from the construction control line see the map. Annexed to the Royal Decree.......................in the regions of ........................at the seaside in which the following constructions shall not be built:"

The records shows measure from construction control line see the map.........at the seaside! On the map it located at MSL. MSL=CCL

Has anyone actually taken a measurement? It certainly doesn't take a rocket scientist to drive a stake at high tide and another at low tide. Half the distance between the stakes would be very near mean sea level. Before I spent any money at all fighting VT7, I'd want to know what that physical measurement is.

VT7 is about 102 or 103 meter far from MSL depending on which side to the building.

Dear Buckwheat

“Back on topic................ Jomtien Condo Owners Sue For Sea View” and to protect are beaches. Let me explain why we sued City hall. Because the Mayor did not understand the regulation or their maps!

Compare the Mayors letter of April 4, 2007 with the Expert witness June 19 , 2007 letter to Rayong court. Expert witness letter contradicts the mayor’s letter which claim that Issue 8 and 9 are the same!

The Expert witness said Issue 9 must be measure from MSL!! This is a fact the court accepts! So how could the court say? "If the measurement was from the construction control area prescribed by the Royal Decree B.E. 2521, the building distance obtained would be similar to the measurement from the MSL inward the land at the distance of 200 meter." What??

Remember when reading the expert witness letter he testified at the 2nd court hearing. What he did not understand the “technique” used the city hall when they explained you measure into the sea 100 meters.

Dear ThaiBob

Your quote from the court record: "If the measurement was from the construction control area prescribed by the Royal Decree B.E. 2521, the building distance obtained would be similar to the measurement from the MSL inward the land at the distance of 200 meter." This does not make sense when compared with Issue 9

Reread Issue 9: "Ministerial Regulation Issue 9: 3. To specify the area within the 200 meters measurement from the construction control line see the map. Annexed to the Royal Decree.......................in the regions of ........................at the seaside in which the following constructions shall not be built:"

You can say anything! But the records shows don't measure from construction control area (borderline) or (zone). But you measure from construction control line see the map.........at the seaside! Found on the map at MSL! This is a fact the court accepts!!

Maybe you do not understand the meaning of IF?

if >conjunction 1 introducing a conditional clause; on the condition or supposition that. 2 despite the possibility or fact that. 3 whether. 4 every time that; whenever. 5 expressing a polite request or tentative opinion. 6 expressing surprise or regret. >noun a condition or supposition.

-ORIGIN Old English.

New posted facts the Pattaya Mayors letter, dated April 4, 2007, sent to the Rayon Court. Check the Mayor letter he also uses "if".

It looks like the mayor doesn't understand how to apply Issue 9 to it's map?

Thaksin refusal to return to face four court cases on corruption charges! Are the VT7 investors worry that Thailand in a country of laws? Does not this newspaper article points to the fact the courts are honorable?

http://www.bangkokpost.com/topstories/tops...s.php?id=129528

The Bangkok Post

Today's Top Stories

Analysis: End of an era

By Peter Janssen, dpa

Deposed prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra's refusal on Monday to return to face four court cases on corruption charges effectively puts an end to his controversial political career, but his legacy may prove harder to kill.

Thaksin and his wife Potjamarn were allowed to travel to Beijing to attend the opening ceremony of the Olympic Games Friday.

Although they had booked return tickets to Bangkok Sunday evening they never boarded the flight, heading instead for London where Thaksin, a billionaire, owns the Manchester City football club and several properties.

The former first couple had been ordered to appear at the Supreme Court Monday, to start proceedings in an abuse of power case involving Potjamarn's 772-million-baht ($23 million) purchase of a piece of prime real estate on Ratchadaphisek Road at a public auction in 2003 when Thaksin was still prime minister.

The likelihood of Thaksin remaining free after the four court cases pending against him was slim, and the Thai judiciary had already sent him a strong message that he was not untouchable when they sentenced his wife and business partner Potjamarn to jail.

On July 31, in the first major blow to the former first family, the Bangkok Criminal Court sentenced Khunying Potjamarn to three years in jail for avoiding a tax bite amounting to 546 million baht on a share transfer to her stepbrother Bannapot Damapong and her secretary Karnchanapa Honghern in 1997.

The verdict left Thaksin visibly shaken.

"It's understandable he decided not to come back," said Chaturon Chaisaeng, a former leader of the Thai Rak Thai Party that Thaksin led during his dual premierships from 2001 to 2006. "He probably thought it was now or never."

As it has turned out, the judiciary has proved to be Thaksin's downfall.

Thaksin was toppled by a military coup on Sept 19, 2006, on charges of corruption, dividing the nation and undermining democracy and the monarchy.

He stayed abroad in self-exile throughout 2007, while a military-appointed government ruled Thailand, returning only on last Feb 28, after an elected, pro-Thaksin government was in place.

Despite his political connections and efforts to manipulate the court system, the judiciary has plowed ahead with cases against the Shinawatras.

Thaksin, in a statement he issued Monday in London, claimed the court cases against his family were part of a conspiracy by his political enemies to keep him out of politics. If so, they have succeeded, at least in the short term.

"Thaksin's political future is finished," opined political scientist Thitinan Pongsudhirak, director of the Institute of Security and International Studies (ISIS) at Chulalongkorn University and a Bangkok Post analyst.

Like many Thai academics, Thitinan is in two minds about Thaksin.

While Thitinan opposed Thaksin - the wily and corrupt politician who manipulated Thailand's political system for his own gain and that of his political cronies - he admired the "Thaksin legacy" of using essential populist policies to provide Thailand's rural and urban poor with a better deal and empower them through elections.

"That legacy is in danger of being swept under the carpet," said Thitinan. "Whether Thaksin really changed Thailand or not, we will have to wait and see in the coming months."

One movement that bears watching will be the Peoples Alliance for Democracy (PAD), a loose coalition of anti-Thaksin forces that have been holding street demonstrations since May, calling for the demise of the current coalition government led by the blatantly pro-Thaksin People Power Party (PPP) that won the December 2007 elections.

With Thaksin now effectively out of the picture, it remains to be seen if the PAD will stop campaigning for the government's downfall and continue to oppose calls for amendments to the military-sponsored 2007 constitution that aim at strengthening the political party system.

There have been indications that the PAD's goals have shifted from being just anti-Thaksin to being anti-democratic, such as calls for a completely appointed Senate, a move that would benefit Thailand's traditional political elite - the bureaucracy, military and old money.

"The theory that all Thailand's political problems occurred because of Thaksin will soon be proved wrong," predicted one former member of the Thai Rak Thai. "The real problem of the divide between political parties and the elite hasn't gone way."

Long live the King and his honorable courts!

Dear jpm76

Your statement "He insists that CCL equals MSL, but like ThaiBob, I am completely aware that this was a StopVT7 insertion ie tampering of the evidence." and the comment

"A BORDERLINE, A FRONTIER, and therefore the boundary from which to begin measuring. Sorry, but until you understand this point, you will continue to spout how you know how MSL=CCL. It will not change the fact that you deny that the boundary should be the commencement of the measuring point"

If you do not accept the fact the court, the expert witness and VT7 all said you measure from MSL. You are tampering with the "evidence"

While do you not go and read from "English Translation of January 16, 2008 Court lifts the Injunction what allows construction to start! "

http://stopvt7.blogspot.com/search?updated...p;max-results=7

Do miss this: "Mr. Veera Visuthirattanakul, 7th Class Lawyer of the Department of Civil Engineer and City Planning, testified as the Witness, that the area controlling the construction as referred in The Royal Decree B.E. 2521 is 100 meter distance from MSL towards the sea. While measuring the Witness did not measure from the MSL point to the dispute building, but he measured from the MSL point until he reached 100 meter from the aforesaid point, and if measurement continued to reach the dispute building, the building would be about 102 or 103 meter far from MSL depending on which side to the building."

Then reread "Ministerial Regulation Issue 9: 3. To specify the area within the 200 meters measurement from the construction control line see the map. Annexed to the Royal Decree.......................in the regions of ........................at the seaside in which the following constructions shall not be built:"

You can fine MSL on the map at the seaside. So this is why MSL, CCL and the seaside on the map are the same point. Which you start measuring. We all agree to these fact! But, we do not agree how to make a 200 meter measurement from MSL.

Get your facts strait before you accuse me of "tampering" with the "evidence"!!

For a copy from Thai Government of Issue 9 Map with Regulation: http://www.asa.or.th/download/03media/04la.../mr/mr21-09.pdf

See Mayor Sept. 9, 2005 letter translation! Is he tampering?

VT7 and their inventors must be worried about the appeal at the Bangkok Supreme Admin Court?

From the Bangkok Post:

http://www.bangkokpost.com/topstories/tops...s.php?id=129458

"Today's Top Stories

Asylum for Thaksin?

By Pradit Ruangdit and Wichit Chantanusornsiri

Speculation is rife that ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra and Khunying Potjaman will not return to Thailand on Sunday after all, but instead stay abroad and seek asylum.

On Friday, they attended the opening ceremony of the Beijing Olympics.

It was reported that the couple may go into exile overseas to escape the legal proceedings awaiting them at home.

The couple are being tried at the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Holders of Political Positions for alleged wrongdoing in the Ratchadaphisek land deal.

Two other cases against Mr Thaksin — the lottery case and the Exim Bank loan to Burma — are pending in the same court.

Five other cases against Mr Thaksin and his cronies are with the Office of the Attorney-General.

On July 31, the Criminal Court found Khunying Potjaman guilty of conspiring to evade tax totalling 546 million baht in the transfer of shares in the Shinawatra Computer and Communication company. She was sentenced to three years in jail and was later released on bail.

Finance Minister Surapong Suebwonglee, one of the couple's closest aides, said he talked with people in close contact with Mr Thaksin about rumours the couple would seek political asylum, but the truth has yet to be established.

"Some denied the rumour, others confirmed it," Mr Surapong said.

Arisman Pongruangrong, a former Thai Rak Thai MP, said Mr Thaksin and Khunying Potjaman will definitely return to Thailand after the opening ceremony of the Olympics Games.

They have booked seats on a flight from Beijing to Bangkok tomorrow, Mr Arisman said.

"His return will go according to schedule. Mr Thaksin confirmed that he will come back to fight all the cases in Thailand. He has never thought of seeking asylum as has been rumoured," said Mr Arisman.

A source at the Supreme Court said if the couple fail to turn up on Monday to report to a panel of judges handling the Ratchadaphisek land case, the judges may issue arrest warrants for them and may conduct the trial of the couple in absentia.

"Actually, the defendants' testimonies have no bearing on the trial. The defendants have denied the allegations all along. It depends on the evidence," the source said.

Meanwhile, Sakda Khongphet, a leader of the Isan Pattana faction of the People Power party (PPP), said he will give evidence showing misconduct by top people in the party to the National Counter Corruption Commission.

The Isan Pattana group has exposed the rise of the so-called "gang of four" within the PPP, whom it has accused of trying to dominate the party and cashing in on state projects to prepare for the next election.

The gang is believed to comprise Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej, his secretary-general Theerapol Nopparampa, Dr Surapong and Newin Chidchob, a veteran MP who controls a large PPP faction of northeastern MPs.

The Isan Pattana faction claims the gang of four, guided by Mr Newin, is planning to form a coalition government with the Democrats if the PPP is dissolved.

"He [Mr Thaksin] told me that he has been aware of the movements of the gang of four and he said he felt hurt," Mr Sakda said.

However, Democrat secretary-general Suthep Thaugsuban denied any knowledge of the plan.

A PPP source said Mr Thaksin sent his younger sister, Yingluck, to talk to Mr Newin and his group of MPs during a meeting of the party's northeastern MPs led by Mr Newin on Thursday. The group is called "Newin's friends". Maha Sarakham MP Suthin Klangsaeng, a member of the group, said Ms Yingluck explained that Mr Thaksin had nothing to do with the moves of the Isan Pattana group."

Thailand is a country of laws and the VT7 inventors are worried the court will tear down an illegal building.

It is question if VT7 investors will go into exile at Disneyland to escape the legal proceedings awaiting them in Thailand from ignoring Thai laws?

Dear OhdLover and JaiDeeFarang

I figure it out! You do not understand the meaning of the word area! And you want to measure from the "borderline of the construction control area" . No you measure from MSL on the map. MSL is at the seaside which locates the CCL "construction control line". You measure from this "line" on the map. You can fine this line on the maps which is in yellow color.

area >noun 1 a part of an expanse or surface. 2 the extent or measurement of a surface. 3 a space allocated for a specific use. 4 a subject or range of activity.

Latin, 'piece of level ground'.

line >noun 1 a long, narrow mark or band. 2 a length of cord, wire, etc. serving a purpose. 3 a row or connected series of people or things. 4 a row of written or printed words. 5 a direction, course, or channel. 6 a telephone connection. 7 a railway track or route. 8 a notional limit or boundary. 9 a connected series of military defenses facing an enemy force. 10 an arrangement of soldiers or ships in a column or line formation. 11 a wrinkle in the skin. 12 a contour or outline considered as a feature of design or composition.

-ORIGIN Old English, from Latin linum 'flax'; later influenced by Old French ligne, from Latin linea.

The "borderline of the construction control area" is outlined by blue color line on the second map.

Dear OhdLover

Your statement "Can you please explain once more????"

I would but you not able to understand such legal matters!

I like this little guy. Doe he make you laugh?

Dear JaiDeeFarang

City hall and VT7 brought nothing new to the January 15, 2008 court hearing. The expert witness report has NO importance or concern except if identify MSL for the Supreme Administrative Court. Now The Supreme Administrative Court can make a ruling. Then the tear down may start!!

Thailand is a country of laws! You will find this fact out after the ASC decision!

Your posting: "Your argument that MSL = CCL is simply not supported by the Issue 9 map. Please look at the map again. It shows both the MSL and the Borderline of Restricted Construction. We all know the problems in translating Thai to English and especially technical Thai. I think most people can see the similarities and easily make the transition from Construction Control Line (CCL) to Borderline of Restricted Construction. However, to argue that CCL = MSL requires a leap of faith and is simply not true."

Please read the regulation and I explain why MSL = CCL :

"Ministerial Regulation Issue 9 (B.E. 2521)

2. No. 3 of the Ministerial Regulation No. 8 (B.E. 2519) issued under the Building Construction Control Act B.E. 2479 is to be amended by the following statement:

"No 3. To specify the area within the 200 meters measurement from the construction control line see the map. Annexed to the Royal Decree Promulgating the Building Construction Control Act B.E. 2479 in the regions of Tambol Bang Lamung, Tambol Nhong Plalai, Tambol Na Khua and Tambol Nhong Prue of Amphur Bang Lamung of Chonburi Province B.E. 2521 at the seaside in which the following constructions shall not be built:

Building of 14 meters higher than road level."

Now compare with Issue 8

"Ministerial Regulation Issue 8 (B.E. 2519)

2. The land areas under this Ministerial Regulation are restricted from construction of the following buildings:

3. To specify the area within the 100 meters measurement from the construction control line see the map. Annexed to the Royal Decree Promulgating the Building Construction Control Act B.E. 2479 in the regions of Tambol Bang Lamung, Tambol Na Khua and Tambol Nhong Prue of Amphur Bang Lamung of Chonburi Province B.E. 2479 at the seaside in which the following constructions shall not be built:

Building of 14 meters higher than road level"

What does this regulation say on the matter of the construction control line? It defines from where we make measurements! Issue 8 have you measure 100 meter. Issue 9 was amended to change 100 meters to 200 metersmeasurement.

Where is the construction control line? It is at the seaside on the map !

Do you fine the words construction control line on the map? NO! But you fine the words seaside on the map. With the words seaside on the map is written Mean Sea Level (MSL) on the map,

So the seaside ( or sea shore ) is located at the Mean Sea Level (MSL) on the map, So using good logic I'm able to determine the construction control line is at MSL. Or MSL = CCL

The "Construction Control Line" CCL is represented by the yellow line on both maps where from you measure onto the land.

Can you remember where I concluded you measure onto the land? The Minutes from "Meeting on the Drafting of Ministerial Regulation No. 8. See below:

"Meeting on the Drafting of Ministerial Regulation No. 8" Which is part of Issue 9

"There have been several amendments made during the Meeting on proposals to the Ministerial Regulation No. 8 B.E. 2518 issued under the virtue of Building Control Act B.E. 2479..

This was later amended to read "The area of 100 meters measured from the construction control line according to the map annexed, from the sea towards the shore shall not be permitted to construct the following types of buildings"

(8) Building of 14 meters above the road surface.

Further amendment was to delete the wording "towards the shore" since the wording was clearly understood, then the following wording was used instead "to fix the 100 meters measured from the construction control line according to the annexed map at the sea shore that building of the following types are not permitted for construction"

The amendments were consented by the meeting because the meeting wanted to protect the beach by controlling the construction which may impact the natural look of sea beach area."

Now read reread the differance between Issue 8 and 9

[/color]Issue 8 "To specify the area within the 100 meters measurement from the construction control line see the map at the sea shore that building of the following types are not permitted for construction"

Issue 9 "To specify the area within the 200 meters measurement from the construction control line see the map at the sea shore that building of the following types are not permitted for construction"

Issue 9 has a reason attached: "Note: "The reason issuing this Ministerial Regulation due to the updating of the construction control areas .....................................by extending the construction restriction areas as appeared in the map annexed to the Royal Decree"

Do you understand the word "extend"?

extend >verb 1. make larger in area. 2. cause to last longer. 3. occupy a specified area or continue for a specified distance.

The Issue 9 map specify construction restriction areas "borderline" is 100 meter into the sea from MSL at the CCL construction control line.

By extending the measurement at MSL or the CCL from 100 meters to 200 meters onto the land!

Please read this quotation from the Supreme Administrative Court decisions which says: "Nevertheless, where No. 3 (8) under the Ministerial Regulation No. 8 (B.E. 2519) issued by the virtue of the Building Control Act B.E. 2479 amended by the Ministerial Regulation No. 9 (B.E. 2521) issued by the virtue of the Building Control Act B.E. 2479 prescribed that the 200 meter line measured from the construction control line shown in the map annexed to the Royal Decree. .......................... promulgating the Building Control Act B.E. 2479 governing ........................................on the seaside shall be restricted from constructing of any building exceeding 14 meter high from road surface. Therefore, if the Construction Permit No. 162/2007 dated 28 November 2006 granted by the Defendant No. 1 to the Defendant No. 2 should appear to be unlawful against the Ministerial Regulation thereto as being claimed by the ten plaintiffs, the Court of First Instance should have sentenced this point of being unlawful, i.e. the judgment shall be focused on the permission of construction the building exceeding height limit by the Defendant No. 2. Whilst the Administrative Court of First Instance ordered the provisional measure to cease construction before judgment, the building's base rocks were built, the construction did not reach the height limit of 14 meter above the road surface. Where the Administrative Court of First Instance issued the order of provisional measure to effect temporary protection by ceasing the entire construction is, therefore, in excess of what reasonable under the circumstances.

The Supreme Court, therefore, gives an order to amend the order of the Administrative Court of First Instance. That the Defendant No. 2 shall cease the construction performed, under the Work Permit No. 162/2007 dated 28 November 2007, on the part exceeding 14 meter height. On a temporary basis until the Court has ordered otherwise.

Mr. Vorapoj Visarutpich

Judge of Supreme Administrative Court”

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Compare the Issue 8 and 9 map below. The "Construction Control Line" CCL is represented by the yellow line on both maps. On Issue 9 map the Construction Control Line CCL is found at the seaside (yellow line) at MSL.

The "Borderline of the Control Construction Area" on Issue 9 map is found in the sea 100 meters from the "Construction Control Line" CCL. But this "Borderline of the Control Construction Area" has nothing to do with the 200 meter measurement onto the land.

You measure from "Construction Control Line" CCL at the seaside found at "MSL" on the Issue 9 map. You measure from MSL at the seaside 200 meters onto the land.

Reference to CCL is only found in the written regulation and is on the map is the yellow lines.

We had meetings with map expert and Lawyers and the Thai maps were translate for the farangs.

You may go to and print a Thai copy of Issue 9 with Thai Map: http://www.asa.or.th/download/03media/04law/cba/mr/mr21-09.pdf

You may go to and print a Thai copy of Issue 8 with Thai Map: http://www.asa.or.th/download/03media/04law/cba/mr/mr19-08.pdf

The Stopvt7 group has nothing to hide and we make part of our action to keep anyone interested informed. So please if you do not believe us print copies of the Thai Issue 8 and 9 regulation and find you own experts.

"It's obliviously they did not watch the Howdy Doody show growing up!"

stopvt7 - are you trying to beat your own record? This one almost knocks "attack the massager" out of the first place in our Goofy Grammar & Silly Spelling Book of Records! Great stuff!

Sorry, it should be obvious! Enjoy the laugh!

That darn as you type spell correction.

"The comment "Give up on ThaiBob. You keep confused him with the facts!

Some people are not on the same intellectual plain as Sponge Bob."

Dear lookat

I coming to understand what the statement means! Sponge Bob teaches right and wrong behavior, goodness and moral behavior.

I think Sponge Bob would care about Issue 9 and protecting the Jomtien beaches. He would care about breaking a law to destruct someone nice see view.

The anti-StopVT7 investment gang are about the evils money can bring? To them the money gods will arrange a win some how? They have no interest in protecting the local beach!

It's obliviously they did not watch the Howdy Doody show growing up!

http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/H/htmlH/...howdydoodys.htm