FranklyNoMore

I have been living with my bf in Thailand for 4 years now. We plan to visit the UK next April with the view to settling back there and we also want to make a civil partnership. We can prove the relationship is genuine with bills and rental agreements, We have a business together, he also has a good job in a US company and owns a property. So what visa should he go for? If I return to the UK in December is there anything I should do to prepare, like registering? He plans to work. Are there any restrictions on him and if so how long is it before he can work? I have read bits and pieces on the subject but some clear advice would be appreciated

It seems to me that the specifics of the guys you wish to meet are few and far between here so your search might take longer than you may wish for and you would probably have more luck in Singapore.

However, many Thais educated abroad come back to their homeland with such grandeur, especially those educated in the USA, that they really arent very appealing to ex pats. I have met Thai professionals educated abroad and found while in their company that life to them was all about showing off, not necessarily one on one with me, but among their friends while out in a group and its such a turn off. Many of us left the BS of life in our homeland behind when we came to live here and most would rather avoid guys that reminded us of why we left. I dont want to hear the same crap here from a Thai or a Farang that I can hear in London. Thats one of the reasons I left my country. Im sure you are a lovely guy but you sound like someone I would run a mile from. But hey thats me. I hope you post again when you meet someone you like. Good luck!

Ive been split with my Thai ex for 5 years now. He accepted my need to move on and we are still friends. He knows I have a bf of 4 years and he talks about his relationships to me and we meet up from time to time for lunch. I have lent him money on occasions, most recently 50,000 all with my current bfs approval. My ex is well educated with a good job but is pretty useless managing his money.

Just because the love part of the relationship is over doesnt mean friendship part has to be. Thais are quite accepting of the fact that you are no longer in love with them and life goes on for them but lending him money, imho depends if he did anything to lose your love. My ex didnt do anything, I just fell out of love with him. If it was similar for you id lend the money, if you still care for him but tell your current bf everything, dont hide anything from him. Id guess he would say lend the money, so why not ask him for his opinion on this matter.

Gee, I wish I had a drum and cybals to bang after each one of those oldies. But I did like the last one.

Well my bf laughed and thats good enough for me. Maybe this one is better for you.

After a long night of making love, this guy rolls over, looks and notices a framed picture of another man on the nightstand by the bed. Naturally, the guy begins to worry.

Is this your husband? he inquires nervously.

No, silly.\" she replies, snuggling up to him.

Your boyfriend then? he asks.

No, not at all, she whispers, nibbling away at his ear.

Is it your dad or your brother? he asks, hoping to be reassured.

No, no, no!!! she says.

Well who is he then? demands the bewildered guy.

Calmly the girl replies, That\'s me before the surgery.

Whats the diference between a gay guy and a freezer?Freezers dont fart when you pull the meat out.

New Gay Dinosaur found, named: My-ass-is-saurus

Lesbian Dinosaur found, named: Licks-alotta- pus

Did you hear about the gay midget?

He went up on a guy!.

Two Lesbian Frogs just finished having sex with each other when one turned to the other and said, See dear...We DO taste like chicken!

I once was on a plane where I was served by an obviously homosexual male flight attendant. At one point, he bounced over to where I was sitting and announced: The Captain has asked me to announce that he will be landing the big scary plane shortly, so if you could just put up your trays, that would be great.

I did as he had instructed but the woman sitting next to me did not. A few moments later, our flight attendant came back and said to her: Maam, perhaps you couldnt hear me over the big scary engine, but I asked you to please put up your tray so that the captain can land the plane. She still wouldnt comply.

Now he was getting angry and asked her again to put up the tray. She then calmly turned to him and said: In my country, I am called a princess. I take orders from no one.

Our flight attendant replied: Oh yeah? Well in MY country, Im called a Queen and I outrank you, bitch, so put the tray up!

Well actually, I was asking gay and not straight members about gay jokes and laughing at ourselves.

As for using gays and anal in the title, well one or 2 members appear pretty anal at times and they are gay! So there you go, all cleared up.

Like PB said jokes told by gays about gays are generally funnier than jokes about gays told by straights.

I recently posted a couple of jokes on another thread because a couple of members thought the topic was too serious so I tried to lighten it up a bit. Well they obviously didnt go down too well as they were removed. I thought they were funny but maybe they werent politically correct so I understand why they were removed and maybe if they were posted by another poster they might not have been. Im not sure if someone complained as no explanation was given.

To me Liberals and society in general are becoming way to serious. I used to laugh at Roy Chubby Brown and Bernard Manning, 2 British comedians, and what sexist, racist bigoted jokes they told but they were jokes. I think there is a difference when saying something as a joke but maybe im wrong and if you think such jokes are funny does that make you one of the same?

Is it ok to tell gay jokes or do you get offended?

I\'m yet to find a BF. I\'m not one to follow rules (I detest them) I really don\'t want to interfere with my potential partners ideaology. This makes things quite difficult. There are an enormous number of people, both straight and gay, who like to follow the rules(whatever they are). When they meet someone like me, for which there are no rules, they find me difficult to categorise. They seem to not understand that I, along with the rest of the world, cannot be categorised. Whatever happened to trust, faith and love? These things seem to have become clouded/buried in/by the rules.

I couldnt agree more. Those who have rules are basically insecure and fear the worst and the rules are their protection. Rules are obviously put in place when things go wrong but by having rules you are asking for trouble because you are not allowing love and trust and the relationship to blossom naturally and thats when things get clouded and start to go wrong. Do you make a decision from the heart or the rule book? When starting a relationship I always think that, what will be will be. If it works out then great and if it dont then great too. If guy enters my life and if it lasts a day, a week, a year or a lifetime then great. If things dont work out I can see if someone else want to walk with me.

Now im not going to be as presumptous as say someone who doesnt live here or visits Isaan, maybe twice a year, or has lived here 5 minutes and talks as if they know Thailand and Thai people and say what is accepted or not as the case maybe. However what I do know is that what maybe accepted by an Isaan family probably wont be so in a Bangkok family. I dont think im being presumptous by saying I dont think Trannies are simply accepted, just as being a Thai gay isnt. Maybe westerners think they are accepted because they dont see Trannie bashings but see them working in Tescos or Pattaya beer bars.

Trannies are not gay. As for being the 3rd sex, they are not. Being called the 3rd sex sounds like being called a freak. If I was straight or bi and into trannies, I would hate to think people thought I was with a freak. I once saw a westerner with a trannie in Starbucks. It was obvious she had been a boy. The looks they got as people passed. Now I cant read minds, so I have no idea what they were thinking, but it did look a bit like a freak show at the circus and not much like acceptance. To me they made a lovely couple. To me trannies are women and should be legally able to change their names when they have the chop. Did you know there is a Trannie working for Thai airways? She has her male name in her passport, how awful is that for her to carry. How did she get the job? She paid a lot of money, rich family and obviously accepted by it, in this case. A guaranteed job at Thai airways 500,000 baht for the connection. Yeah lets keep western mores out of Thailand.

I was told by my ex the Future Park Rangsit is the hub of Thailands cubicle action. Not surprising as there are 3 uni campuses plus some techies out that way.

Hope you can drive Scott, the taxi fare could be a bit steep!

Lets not pansy around,if a guy with HiV/Aids has sex with someone that is not aware of his status as HIV/Aids, he is a potential murderer, same as a gunman or a serial killer, and should be treated as such by the courts, or failing that by street justice.!!!I would not hesitate.

Two people having consenting sex take responsability for their own actions. You cant blame someone else if you choose to have unsafe sex. Everyone knows what is considered risky. If you stick a cock in your mouth there is a 5% chance of catching HIV or 95% birdflu and thats the same if you are a man or a woman.

Society today wants to blame everyone else for their ignorant actions. Nobody wants to take responsability. Dont be so ignorant and play the blame game.

Ok. Thanks for the help.

What exactly does your visa say and where was it issued? Normally double (2) entry is reserved for tourist visas. If you had used one of the entries and exit/return while the visa is still valid you receive the second normal permitted to stay entry.

It was from KL. And yes I was a bit peeved that she gave me only a double and not a year but she said I could extend in Thailand, which is true. I guess I was lucky she didnt give me a single. Anyhow I need to get another non immi B but was wondering if I could get another 3 months out of this visa before applying for a new one.

This visa I got visa in early June, left and re entered in September and have until December.

Im on the second entry of my double entry non b visa. I have to leave the country on the 8th December. If I do a border run to Poipet and re enter do I get another 3 months or? Ive read how you can make a 12 month visa into 15, can the same be done on a double entry? Also if this can be done will it have any affect on my work permit?

Thanks

Do you straight people still think HIV is just a gay disease?

absolutely not..!! only narrow mind people would think like that.<br />

well there are plenty of people out there thinking like that. And a few pop their heads in here from time to time.

The thing about HIV is not whose doing what deliberately but what you are doing with your body. The medicine now available to HIV+ people can prolong lives for decades and is only good thing if they are being responsible by not spreading the virus. But it takes two or 3 if you are lucky.

Their is a lot of risk taking happening and the fact that many more HIV+ people are walking the streets oblivious to the fact they are positive cannot help.

My advice would be to get tested and dont be ignorant. Its quick and not expensive. There is no excuse.

A friend of my Thai bf went for an HIV test on Saturday and the Dr at the clinic said that 23 people had come in for a test and 22 were positive. These were old and young men and women and all Thai. Quite a scary fact considering we are not in a big city. It seems far too many are practicing unsafe sex. I dont know about spreading deliberately but there sure is a lot of ignorance spreading out there. Too many dont get tested because they dont want to know if they have it or not. They would rather not know. How stupid is that? The government should start some free testing programmes or something. I know you cant force people to be tested but they need to be stongly encouraged to test. Surely its better to know than not know.

So, where are we with all of this?

Well to me it appears that those of us who have been asked the questions and feel uncomfortable with them havent really accepted ourselves and are not confident enough to give truthful answers. Yes I can say its none of their business but isnt that an excuse to face the truth. If im really honest I want everyone to know im gay and have a bf that ive been with for 4 years and im very happy. Its sad that even today I dont feel confident enough to say this to my work colleagues. Its a fear of being judged and I must be judging others otherwise I wouldnt have this fear.

I do think you maybe unduly worrying.

For me, I have no intentions of coming out because I dont think its a big deal to Thais. It\'s only a big deal if you make it.

As Thailand is possibly one of the most hierarchical countries where everyone has a \'place\' the questions that are asked are to try and define where you, as a foreigner who isn\'t as easily pigeonholeable as a Thai, fit into the grand scheme of things. You\'ll alos be asked about your salary and your age. They aren\'t being rude, they\'re just trying to fit you into their world.

It\'s considered just as rude to ask about salaries here as it is in the west, so I doubt you will ever be asked about your salary. They may say you farang get paid a lot but thats about it. Thais dont asked each other what they get paid either.

I was in the same situation as the OP but as im now into my 3rd year at my school the questions have died down and now its only the students from time to time that ask me if im gay. I\'ve been asked around 10 times. I know im gossiped about and have heard many things from students who are close to me. On one occasion I complained to the principle because a Thai teacher told the parent of a private student I was teaching, who doesnt go to my school, that I was gay and the 7 year old came to class and asked me if i was because the Thai ajarn at my school said I was. That really pissed me that a fellow teacher would say that to a parent and I had to here it from a 7 year old. I cleaned the teacher at school and complained about her and she just denied ever saying such a thing, the lying bitch.

In time I learned to just let it pass. I try to let my teaching do the talking but, like the Op, I dont want anybody to know my business. However I know nearly everyone at my school thinks im gay even though I dont look it. If I were in their shoes I would probably think the same. A reasonably good looking guy whose been single for 3 years, doesnt talk about girls, yeah right!

I was fed up with all the gay talk so I let it be known that I was married in the UK for 7 years but i dont tell them I was married to a guy! I tell them i\'m now divorced.

I dont think its frowned upon to be a gay Thai teacher, ive met and seen a few, but as a farang I just wouldnt flaunt it. I just try to do a professional job. Im sure my sexuality doesnt matter one bit to the school but if I came out, then it might. To be honest I just wish they would mind their own bloody business but Thais love to gossip about someone cos most of their lives are pretty dull or like at my school there are many fat ugly single women who are just jealous and have absolutely nothing going for them.

My advice to the OP is to try and ignore it and let it pass over. You have to have your answers ready to any potentially embarassing questions that may and probably will be asked. There is nothing worse than a student standing up in class and asking, Ajarn are you gay? and not knowing what to say back. But just ask the student, Are you? and move on with the class. If like me you hate to lie then just avoid direct answers with questions back.

Good luck

Can we stop the personal insults please.

Thanks Endure. I really don't know what point Frankly was trying to make, other than just trying to stir things up. My point is that I don't cruise, but this thread has provided some very good practical advice for those that do. I realize that the topic and some of the responses have pushed TV's envelope a little bit and I'm thankful that the mods have been tolerant and not shut it down.

I was going to start of by appologising to Thai guys in big c for calling them low class as I thought that was the insult endure was referring to in my previous post.

I didnt realise that asking the question, why someone who is in a committed relationship was so interested in toilet sex, was so insulting. I just cant see the connection. I was just curious thats all because I do know that this kind of action is popular with guys in committed relationships and I also know many guys deny doing it as it is considered rather unsavoury hence all the hysteria shown to the sad US politician. One could also deny doing it because their partners read this forum.

Anyhow you did answer it by saying that you started the thread for those who are interested in such activities even though you are not. So thanks for answering my simple question. And once again appologies to Thai guys in big c.

Happy shopping

This has turned out to be a pretty practical cruising guide. Thanks to the mods for keeping it going.

For someone who says he is in a committed relationship I wonder why you are so keen on toilet sex and places to do it? Do you work for Spartacus or are you thinking too much? I also dont see the connection with Thais not wanting to hold hands in public meaning that they wouldnt want to hold your c*ck in a cubicle. Im sure if you go into the cubicle with a Thai guy he will hold your hand if you want. Of course its completely different. Holding hands for all to see isnt the same as being in a cubicle where nobody can see unless some perv is looking over the top at you both. I was once in a cubicle in central silom wiping my ass as you do when a curry goes right through you and some guys looking over at me. I felt abused! You cant even wipe your ass in peace in that place! Thais are as horny as farang. Many have no place to have sex, they live at home or share or have a bf, so toilets, parks and saunas are a convenient place to do it. Very simple really. Ive been to the sauna underground 39. Yes everyone walks around naked but they are all holding their nuts. Not very exciting really. Ive been to better. As for the cinema next door, I went there too but nearly twisted my ankle, those bloody stairs in the dark are a nightmare. Mind you I did fall into some guys lap which was lucky for me. So a word of warning, be careful theres nobody there with a torch to show you to your seat! Yes and big C across the road is very cruisy but its full of guys who havent got 140 for the sauna or even 50 baht to go to the cinema. Very low class! One final warning. Be careful of you wallet and watch out for mobile phones being used for pics or video! You might end up an internet star. Ive seen a few!

I think gays and hetros are missing the point about marriage and civil unions.

You dont need a piece of paper to justify your commitment to someone. Honesty is all you need. Honesty to yourself and your partner. Those who need the paper or ceremony need this because of trust issues.

If you marry me this will unequivocally prove your love to me and ease my insecurity issues. It will mean you wont leave me and we will be together forever because you said so in the ceremony.

Marriage is flawed because you can end it anytime you choose. That\'s why its a complete waste of time and such a pretence. It\'s not the truth. It\'s the truth that suits at the time.

Now into my 4th relationship, ive been through insecurity issues. 4 years into my current relationship I certainly dont need a ceremony or piece of paper to make me feel good about my relationship or to prop it up. It will continue or end without either hence my point that marriage is a complete waste of time and isnt the truth.

Thats just how I see it and of course others will see it differently especially those who have had a ceremony and i respect that.

Maybe someone can tell me why they feel the need to have a ceremony or marriage in the first place and what that then brings to their relationship that wasnt there before.

in thail culture, i have heard sometimes that two guys get some sort of commitment ceremony done. perhaps even at the local wat.

what is this called?

I think the term is called b*ll*cks.

Why gays need some kind of ceremony to justify or pledge some kind of commitment to their relationship is beyond me. Why gays want to go down the same route as hetros is beyond me. All you need to do is commit and be honest to yourself.

Having the need to prove this to your partner by some sort of ceremony is as fake and false as the hetro ceremony. Why? because when one or both of you decide to end the relationship that ceremony will mean as much as it did on the day you had it, nothing.

Instead of advocating gay marriage and going down that route just to get the same benefits and rights as hetros, gays should be fighting to end those benefits that hetro people get when they are married. Ceremonies and pieces of paper to justify your commitment to each other really isnt needed unless of course your very insecure.

One of the better qualities of Pattya is that nobody cares about what the other guy is doing

Of course they do but maybe its not in your face. Go into the pattaya forum on TV and the gay bashers will be out in force. Pattaya is full of bigots but luckily for gays most dont show it in public.

Seems to me that your Thai guy has more than one punter on the go at the same time, a very common practice indeed among working boys and girls. It only becomes a problem if two of you book a holiday at the same time, then you might see the Thai version of Houdini or not depending on who has the biggest wallet.