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Why are some 'remain' posters so insulting about those who have a different opinion???

I don't understand it as putting forward one's views shouldn't rely on insults against those with a different point of view.

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I too have noticed that too, not only on Thaivisa but on youtube and various online news comments sections.

I am for 'Leave', but if someone is a 'Remainer' then I will think they are misguided but will respect their view.

Resorting to school yard style name calling makes me believe that many people are voting with emotion rather than logic.

I agree with everything you say, apart from the last sentence.

IMO its a bullying tactic - hoping to convince others with a different point of view, that the insulter knows more than those insulted.

Edit - this has (largely) been an interesting debate and I've learnt things of which I was previously unaware. Those reduced to name calling e.g. 'stupid, uneducated' etc. have spoilt the debate, and that's a shame.

I did very carefully say 'many people', and was specifically referring to those doing the name calling.

If someone is spewing out insults rather than facts and logic, what other conclusions can I take?

Using name calling rather than facts in an argument, from my experience, means the person has no real argument and are basing their position on feelings.

Why are some 'remain' posters so insulting about those who have a different opinion???

I don't understand it as putting forward one's views shouldn't rely on insults against those with a different point of view.

+1

I too have noticed that too, not only on Thaivisa but on youtube and various online news comments sections.

I am for 'Leave', but if someone is a 'Remainer' then I will think they are misguided but will respect their view.

Resorting to school yard style name calling makes me believe that many people are voting with emotion rather than logic.

A fair point but both sides are doing it so wrong to just point the finger at one side - I have just being branded a fool above but I can live with it!

There has been a fair amount acrimony on both sides, that is true.

But I think it is very easy for the 'remainers' to should racist, xenophobe and Nazi at anyone and then sit back and act like they have won the argument.

From what I have seen, the 'Brexiteers' have been largely focusing on facts (often exaggerated admittedly) rather than calling people Commies or whatever.

Well done to the guy for doing going out of his way to help people.

But I agree with other posters, getting as far out of the way of an ambulance as possible should be automatic.

In the pic above there is ample room for the ambulance to pass if other motorists moved over to the side.

I find the attitude of 99% of motorists here sickening.

Why are some 'remain' posters so insulting about those who have a different opinion???

I don't understand it as putting forward one's views shouldn't rely on insults against those with a different point of view.

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I too have noticed that too, not only on Thaivisa but on youtube and various online news comments sections.

I am for 'Leave', but if someone is a 'Remainer' then I will think they are misguided but will respect their view.

Resorting to school yard style name calling makes me believe that many people are voting with emotion rather than logic.

Quite frankly if you disagree with this man you really need a humanity check. Over the years he has proved to be one of the country's greatest rational thhinkers

I will use my own brain to think about who to vote for, not hand over that responsibility to a wildlife film maker.

Brexiteers confused on sovereignty - which ISN"T democracy either.....

The executive arm of the UK IS elected.

The executive arm (commission) of the EU IS NOT elected.

The EU parliament in the picture is elected, but it is little more than a rubber stamping committee.

Posts like yours show that people have very little idea about how the EU is actually run.

Vote leave has a slight lead in yet another twist to Brexit.

This is going down to the wire.

The Leave campaign has taken the lead by a single percentage point in the final poll by the Opinium firm to be released before the EU referendum. Opinium, which was the most accurate pollster at the 2015 general election, said the race was "too close to call" on account of the survey. The result represents a gain of one point for Leave, who are up to 45 per cent. Remain were on 44 per cent in the survey.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-live-latest-poll-news-brexit-results-leave-remain-when-date-vote-odds-uk-britain-a7094741.html

Anyone who doesn't think this murder was politically motivated is burying their head in the sand or just in denial.

It probably was politically motivated.........by a mentally ill man.

But it is nothing to do with the wider Brexit debate.

To suggest that it is, involves using the logical fallacy of 'guilt by association', something that has shamelessly been used by Remain supporters ever since the murder.

It will be interesting to see if the guy gets labelled as a far left extremist.

Sadly, it seems the murder of Jo Cox has swung the vote firmly in Remain's favour. They have capitalized on the murder - 'never let a serious crisis go to waste', as Rahm Emanuel once said.

The Remain campaign has flung its usual mud at the Brexiters, but this time they have managed to make it stick, due to the public feeling emotional about recent events. Brexit supporter = Nazi, Racist, Xenophobe, blah, blah blah.

It's a pity but the referendum will be decided by hearts not brains.

The OP's GF and the person who backed into the road are to blame.

You should always keep a safe breaking distance between you and the car in front.

The problem with MSG in Thailand is the liberal amount they scoop into the food.

Also a citizen of anyone of those EU countries can without any problems, bring into the UK,their wife/partner

Even if she is a citizen of a non-EU country. Basically that makes you as a British passport holder a second class citizen.

that is correct but you can't blame the EU for discriminating British rules and regulations.

But it is because of the unlimited migration into the UK from the EU that has lead to such discriminating rules for non EU spouses.

Today I saw a man riding a motorbike with his very young baby (seemed like a few weeks old to me) strapped around his chest.

Looks like a boy dressed as a girl to me very masculine face. If he is male even if he says he is more female than male he should not be in a female team in my point of view anyway

That's one of the reasons they eat hormones (he doesn't), is to soften their features and grow little breast. The downside is, it can make them tired all the time and gain too much weight if not careful. It's a balancing act.

His face and body is a dead give away that he's 100% a male not on any hormones whatsoever.

I briefly dated a trans years back when I was young and curious. It was eye opening. Yea, some actually believe they are woman, but many don't. They are just confused and are flamboyant gay men seeking attention. Seeing them in their private life would tell you everything you need to know about them. Men are men and long hair and a dress won't hide that, no matter how feminine you try to make your voice. But those who really believe they are woman, that shows too, in every aspect. Some that I have met are trans because their family would dress them like a girl when they were a child so they figured that's what they are supposed to do. Very confused people, some of them.

Ice moved to Alaska from Thailand just a couple of years ago. Living in the real world, I'd love to see him 5 years from now and see if he's living as a male or a female. My hunch, based on him currently doing nothing to hormonally change his appearance, is that he'll be a man. Especially after being out of crazy Thailand for a while where his friends probably encouraged his behavior. But who knows, maybe Ice is legit and will have a sexual reassignment surgery in the future and cut off her Willie. THAT is how you truly know they think they are a woman. Unless that commitment is made, I'm sceptical of all of them.

It is interesting you mention that some male to female trans people became that way because they were dressed up as girls when they were young.

There is an autobiography written by Walt Heyer, an ex post op male to female transgender (man who became a woman , had genital surgery, and then changed back to being a man) who lived for years as a woman before studying psychology and being able to self analyze. He says that his grandmother dressing him as a girl caused him to develop a disorder and become transgender, in much the same way as you said. Apparently, he would see his grandmother once a week and she would dress him up in girls clothes, heap praise on him and make him feel special.

Transgender means you identify as the gender other than your birth gender. Physical transition is very individualized and is generally a long process. It doesn't necessarily mean ever changing the genitals. Hormone therapy is usual.

So I could identify that I'm female, wear women's clothes, use the ladies lavatories, wear make up, talk higher pitched, compete in women's sport then every Tuesday night have intercourse with the missus, then her with me, I can do all this in the name of transgender?

You want to do that? I reckon it's a very serious life changing situation to discover you're a trans woman. You act like it's a trivial whim. Perhaps get educated.

Exactly.

Imagine you woke up tomorrow with a pair of tits and a vagina. It wouldnt be a joke then, it would probably feel like you were in the wrong body and the rest you can figure out yourselves.

I would accept who I am and get on with my life. I would still be the same person inside.

Ok then lets use your "logic"

She beat others earlier in precious lead up comps. Then she failed to win the final.

Then as you say because she beat others in the lead up comps, she displaced women. These same women who lost to her. What, they are going to take a miracle drug and then win the final comp?

May the best person win!

I think you missed the main point of his post - " A "woman" who is genetically a male with the genes and body of a man has an unfair physical advantage over a woman."

I've nothing against transgenders, but male transgenders should not be allowed to compete as a female.

Complete BS! If your statement was true why didn't she win?

Let me help you, because your opinion is a complete false statement.

Contrary to a poster earlier on in this thread, I believe that the average man is unlikely to beat the top female athletes - hence this transgender only coming 5th.

But I'm not sure why you think my post is BS and that I'm lying. Do you think I'm lying about having no problem with transgenders?

I think you are referring to my post.

I didn't mean an average man could beat a top female athlete, but rather an average pro male athlete would be a superstar pro female athlete.

Look at the women's 100m and 200m (the events mentioned in the OP) . The records were both set by 'Flo-Jo' (many say with the aid of drugs) with times of 10.49 sec and 21.34 respectively.

Compare them to athletics records according to age, and the times are beaten by a 15 year old boy in the 100m, with a time of 10.36, and by a 14 year old boy in the 200m, with a time of 21.16.

So, a 14 year old boy and a 15 year old boy are faster than the greatest female sprinter of all time.

Whatever the person feels about their gender identity, the fact remains that they have a male body and this gives them an unfair advantage in sports.

An average (or probably not even that) male athlete in nearly all sports would be a world class female athlete. The US female hockey team prepared for the 2014 Olympics by playing high school boys teams!

There is a world of difference between Ya Ba and something soft like Weed.

Dealing in Ya Ba is not a victimless crime as dealing in Weed is.

I don't think saying Oriental has been considered seriously racist. Just embarrassingly DATED.

But very useful, especially if you are in the UK where 'Asian' means Indian, Pakistani, etc.

East Asian is such an ugly term.

It's an outdated word, referring to an outdated concept - that white people were the most important, and the world revolved around them.

I can see that some here haven't quite moved on from that era.

I think your thinking is what is "outdated", the word has NOTHING to do with "that white people were the most important, and the world revolved around them'

the term "Orient" derives from the Latin word oriens meaning "east." Geez, some people just don't know what they are talking about, but for some very strange reason, still want to show the world just how stupid they are.

East of where, though?

I think you're missing the point.

And the 'West' is west of where?

I am agnostic - - not sure how anyone knows for sure???

That said, I think everyone should have their own religion, though I think most of us already do - we call it Rationalization...

sure, imaginary friends are great - I am my own best imaginary friend...

Don't take this the wrong way, as u gave a nice, honest answer...but don't think the majority of humanity is rational or logical. Fundamental to their superstition is the sad truth.

Furthermore, are you agnostic about ALL gods...Zeus, Apollo, Allah, Ganesha, etc? There sre thousands. Or just the god flavor of your religion? Yahweh I'm guessing.

Also, are u agnostic about unicorns or leprechauns or the infamous tiny teapot in orbit at the outter reaches of our solar system? Can't prove they don't exist either, nor Zeus et al. And the hard evidence is prett much equal for all...zero.

Just something to think about...

Unless you want to get extremely metaphysical we can say that the universe exists.

If the universe exists then we can say it was either created by natural forces, or it was created by a conscious entity. There is no way to prove either one of these. Being agnostic is the only logical position.

You are using Santa Clause logical fallacy when talking about unicorns etc. There isn't a strange phenomenon whereby gifts appear at the foot of children's beds every Xmas. We know who put them there, we know it is the children's parents. If there WAS a strange phenomenon whereby gifts DID appear out of nowhere then perhaps people would believe that Santa exists, but there isn't, so it really isn't the same thing.

The universe does exist, but we don't know how it came into being, and probably never will.

Very funny to watch Trump and his supporters incite violence and racism and ignorance then act the victim when it all turns to xxxx.

The regressive left mindset - Anti Trump protesters turn violent (many times during this campaign) and Trump gets blamed. Seems free speech is only for those who agree with the 'liberals'.

I don't like Trump, but some of the mental gymnastics by some people is simply astonishing.

I think people are becoming way to sensitive nowadays. So many people are offended by words.

Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words can't hurt me.

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It is ok to call a British person a 'Brit', or an Australian an 'Aussie'.

But it is offensive to call a Japanese person a 'Jap' or a Pakistani a 'Paki'.

Why? Because Britain and Australia are predominantly white countries and Japan and Pakistan are 'countries of color'.

The rules need to be applied to all or to none, and anything else is just fueling division and creating conflict where it need not exist.

It seems to be offensive in the US but not in the UK.