cocopops

Hi fella I use experion Imhad a bita bover few years back you can join free for a month then cancel, only img your need is an adres in UK, but that's esa enuff I think it's Hpi equifax. Like Imsaid 30 day free trial.

Or your can rite to em send em a tenner and they have to send you rather report. But they're only do it in UK.

If you've had nowt in 6 years your credit score will be bad but folks might av got Ccjs if you left any debt an they will prob show like on it. Or sum one cuve made u bankrupt in your a sense if you owed em but unlikely. If a debt was owed to a bank 6-8 years ago it will av bin sild on and they've probably stopped chasin you, but beware if you put an addy on anything as you might pop up an then it might start up lookin for you.

Soz m8 my ritins crap but I collect debt so know a bit like about it.

is there any chance of a translation of this totally shiiiiiite monkey script into a current and understandable language?

its cockney...not That I am one myself...

to paraphrase, the poster had problems some years back and used Experion, but thinks you would need an address in the UK, if there is any debt left in the UK they could have bankrupted you, but unlikely, if the debt was incurred 6-8 years ago, the debt will no longer be enforceable and they will stop chasing you, unless they make contact with you and start trying to recover the debt.

the poster starts he does/did collect debts so knows a little about the process

...my translation work for you ?....

As homework if you wish to begin to understand this dialect, UK TV shows "Eastenders" or Only Fools & Horses or as a movie "lock stock and two smoking barrels"

There will be a test in the morning

Dude's like an English Irvine Welsh. You should team up and write a novel.

sorry cant think of any skills that can be acquired here and not anywhere cell in the world nothing of any meaning or use

what do you have in mind just in case i am missing the point

draftvader gets it.

Aaaaah, another Thai-bashing thread, masquerading as a question. You're acquiring a reputation, eldragon, that of a serial basher.

Really? I'm usually pretty careful to make objective statements. "Many Thais" vs "Thais." Etc. But thanks for the heads up.

In all honesty, I was thinking about stuff along the lines of washing clothing by hand. But draftvader cracked me up. Sorry.

I don't think equivocating makes a statement objective. It increases the chances of it being correct in the sense that the vast majority of unqualified statements are false, but does nothing for objectivity. Really it makes it more subjective, as we are free to come up with our own definition of "many" to influence the validity of the statement.

Your wife is correct. It makes no difference to you how much the agent collects, so long as you get your asking price. I put it to you that you feel you will lose face if the agent makes out like a bandit. Am I wrong?

There is a school of thought which says that why bother what the agent/intermediary makes, as long as you get your price, and I alluded to this in my post, however there is another side to it which should be considered, as it was in my case anyway.

Let's say that the seller puts advertisements out online, in newspapers, in flyers and through friends, with a description of the house priced at 5 million baht. Then the seller is approached by someone who says, "well if I can sell it for 6 million baht, can I pocket the difference?".

IMO this is where the problem starts because should this "someone" bring along a possible purchaser, who looks over the property and then twigs that this is the same house that they recently saw advertised at 5 million baht, so what the hell is going on........they could have lost a purchaser who may well have bought, but not now when seemingly shady practices are in play.

That's the problem I had as I did not want to enter into negotiations with potential purchaser whereby I would have to inflate my original asking price, only to know that at any time before or even after the purchase, this person could confront me with questions about the sale and purchase, and as I live and intend to stay here for a while, I really didn't want the hassle on the one hand, and on the other I thought it was dishonest and it is not how I normally conduct business.

I think that's key to several posters saying that they wouldn't do it, because most of the time the asking price is already out in the marketplace and to try and inflate that so that someone else can make more (other than the 3% fee) profit, thereby charging the purchaser more than they needed to pay for the property, doesn't seem ethical.

Thanks for the explanation. I can see your point about not wanting to put off potential buyers.

I don't really think there is any dishonesty involved though. Everybody trying to buy a house knows that both agent and owner will try to maximize the transfer price. Just as you know any buyer will attempt to minimize it. Who exactly is being deceived?

The truth is so well protected and will never come out no matter how many interviews are made, this scenario will go on for years and millions will be spent yet the truth will never be known .

Just clear the slate, ban them all from any kind of politics for life, and get on with getting the country out of the mess and gain world recognition.

Oh come now. Occam's razor says:

• The PTP created a policy to overpay farmers for their rice. When the policy was formulated they were in election mode, so nobody really cared to look at the details too much.
• The rice price moved further against them after the election. Meanwhile, the idea of controlling supply the world market in order to raise the price turned out to be little more than a daydream.
• Stocks were allowed to accumulate while they were waiting for the price to rise - see the aforementioned daydream. Farmers were waiting for their payments.
• Suthep struck, crippling the government. This hampered the PTP's ability to move the rice at any price - buyers were scared of being caught up in Thai politics - and prevented them from paying the farmers. At this point, the rice scheme became the "rice scam" in popular vernacular.
• 1 year later, when the warehouses were inspected following the coup, we find that huge amounts of rice has rotted. As a result the value of the stock is even further downgraded.
• And so, we're now at a massive loss.

All told, it was a monumental farkup. Pure and simple. However, in defense of the PTP (this should be popular):

• There is no "big black hole" into which the money disappeared. There are so far no reports of large-scale corruption - just a few isolated incidents.
• The rice that has been genetically tested does appear to be of Thai origin. There was no large-scale importing of foreign rice to sell to the Thai government.

The OAG's office is stalling because they don't know if they want to be a part of this prosecution or not. Going through with it means a whole lot of documents will be produced. Documents that might be interpreted later on, by journalists, historians or others, to mean that the prosecution was motivated by some factor other than the stamping out of corruption.

Does anybody know how the "cheap food scheme" works? What do the vendors get in exchange for agreeing to the departments price schedule?

Your wife is correct. It makes no difference to you how much the agent collects, so long as you get your asking price. I put it to you that you feel you will lose face if the agent makes out like a bandit. Am I wrong?

This thread demonstrates once again the correlation between literacy and progressive opinions on drug policy. This is purely an observation, I don't mean to disparage[1] those with hardline views.

[1] For those with hardline views on drug policy, "disparage" means to "have a go at".

Was it not said a couple of days ago that mechanisms would be put in place to stop political parties using populist policies which opened a debate on what the definition of ' populist ' might be.

It seems that "populist", as defined in modern Thailand, has to do with the perceived intent of the legislator. Those that do the determining have determined that the PT policies were intended only to help politicians. Whereas the current round of proposals, despite appearing superficially similar, are intended to restore happiness to the people. And are therefore not populist.

Does that clear things up?

ThaiPBS has a video up of an interview with the purported owner of the infamous Spacebook page.

Wish my Thai was a little better just now .... here is the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzvhLPfrJ6A

The voice modulator the dude is using to protect his identity makes things utterly incomprehensible for me...

I don't see anything for Tim Cook to be proud about when it comes to his sexuality. Being gay is not an achievement, any more than is being heterosexual or bisexual. It's just one aspect of who he is and utterly irrelevant to his job. Like militant feminists, gays who insist on proclaiming their sexual identity from the rooftops are simply irritating and do nothing to advance the just cause of equal treatment for gays.

Maybe, maybe not.

Personally though, I don't think that's the real issue. Put yourself in the shoes of an insecure gay teenager (yes, I'm sure many gay youngsters are happy, confident people - just not all). Depending on the community in which this kid lives, simply revealing his or her inner life may lead to outcomes ranging from awkwardness through ostracism and on to violence. If they're unlucky enough to be born into a typically intolerant religious community (yes, I know they're not all like that), things are probably even worse.

Even in a thread like this, which appears to be largely bigot-free, a few posters have seen fit to use the word "gay" as a general purpose negative acronym. Now they probably mean nothing by it, but imagine, for example, if folks started using the word "American" or similar in the same way. Most of you wouldn't like it, and I'm sure you would worry about what it was doing to your kids to be constantly bombarded by it.

"Have you heard the new Beiber album?"

"Yeah! That guy is so American!"

Anyhow, if I was that teenager, I think I'd benefit more from a guy like Tim Cook - the successful leader of the worlds most successful company - standing up and explaining that he is, in some ways, like me, than I would from 100 eccentric celebrities doing the same. Or from some symbolic victory surrounding marriage certificates.

Well done, Mr, Cook!

Institute (somehow) transparent free-market pricing. Some kind of bid/offer system that ensures that passengers find the driver willing to offer the best fare for their journey while also guaranteeing that drivers are not forced into taking unprofitable fares when more lucrative prospects are available.

In other words, extend to providers and consumers of taxi-services the same advantages enjoyed by users of all other service markets.

Socrates himself was not a fan of democracy, yet Plato did see the positives in it.

That's a controversial statement. It's difficult to say exactly what Socrates himself thought about anything. Plato had him as opposing the idea of appointed philosophizer-kings, which might indicate a preference for something more egalitarian. As for Plato himself - although he said democracy was better than tyranny - spent a fair bit of time on the shortcomings of democracy. But what can we really read into that? Plato was pissed because democracy had just executed Socrates, and the only way we know what Socrates might have thought is via Plato.

One interesting thing about Greek democracy is that literally none of the ancients write positively about it. Of course, that might have more to do with who is doing the writing than anything else...

Well done, Mr. Allen. Bravo!

Democracy started with the Greeks before the first Olympics , so that goes back some time , if Thailand thinks that Democracy can be learnt in four easy lessons, think again and democracy is all about challenging ideas , freedom of speech and freedom of the press, Just on those three issues Thailand fails miserably.

The first Olympics were held in 776 BC. The first Athenian democracy is usually put at 508 BC. Although I think there is wiggle room in both those numbers.

Currently reading a history book (no Thaksin so far in this one either).

Many on TVF (mostly the diehard yellows) remind of a quote from Sam Harris.

“If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn’t value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?”

That's a good quote. I like it, but it's not evidence. You cant present it in a court of law.

Heres another interesting pair of quotes, (purportedly) from the contributing editor to The Nation newspaper

David Simmons One of the below-the-line commenters says: "Does the Editor realise that by repeatedly publishing the results of farcical polls like this, he is seriously lowering the image of the Bangkok Post?" I suspect the Editor does indeed, but is hoping to salvage the paper's credibility later. Might be a faint hope; probably the Post and The Nation, my employer, should have thought of that while they were supporting Suthep's anti-democracy movement that caused this situation.

David Simmons I don't think the right wing or our advertisers wanted another military dictator, at least not one like Prayut who wants to "reform" everything in sight, and is shoring up his image with populist programs almost indistinguishable from Yingluck's, with only vague ideas how they will be paid for after Suthep and the Democrats nearly destroyed the economy. Big business was hoping for another judicial coup, with the Democrats installed like last time. Our paper has been more critical of the junta than it was of Suthep, even though the generals have guns (some of which were on display in our parking lot right after the coup; I think they've slunk back into the Army Club now).

I don't think there is anything wrong with publishing these poll results, along with their source, and letting them speak for themselves. Aside from a few trolls, nobody on this thread appears to have had any trouble interpreting the message.

Mr. Simmons is certainly correct that The Nation has been tougher on the Junta than they were on Suthep - although that is not a terrifically high bar to reach. And much tougher than I think anyone (well, me anyway) expected them to be.

Law was something the Greeks and Romans developed and is still the normal language of the land called :Common Law which most modern societies follow. if anyone on this web who is a lawyer or has studied international law AKA : Warsaw pact 1949 etc... and more would understand the foundation was to progress with the changes of society but not wavied on pricinples of the history of law. I think Thai's have never learnt about older societies.

Speaking of older societies, the Sumerians had written laws long before the Greeks came along:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Ur-Nammu

If prices rise too high, many Thais won't use taxis cos they won't be able to afford them. There has to be a balance.

And the only reliable way that we know of to find that balance is to allow a free market to operate. Price fixing is the problem, not the solution.

can't understand why people do this for people they do not know, probably drug dealers, kiddie fiddlers and murderers, do they get a kick from it? As has been said many more worthy causes including orhpans and HIV refuges. Orphanages are particularly sad places that need help, drug dealers and low lifes???????

We're all just products of our genes and environments. Nothing else. And we choose neither of those things. While reflecting on your superiority to "drug dealers and kiddie fiddlers", consider that you were dealt, through chance not merit, a significantly better hand in life than them. Something to be thankful for. And a reason to show compassion to those less fortunate.

This doesn't change the fact that, at this point in history, a system of punishments is required to maintain social cohesion.

I watched a talk show a few days ago regarding the effect social networking is having on politicians (in the USA) who make simple (yet far-reaching) mistakes. and how the country needs to stop casting these sometimes brilliant people into oblivion because of their - humanness - if that is a word.

Hey there, I think you need to clarify what you mean by this statement.

If I am correct, you are saying that "sometimes brilliant politicians", like Prayuth, (laughable)

shouldn't be cast into oblivion because of their humanness? Their humanness???

What does that mean? Their stupidity and ignorance?

He clearly meant that the victim could be blamed for their crime because of circumstantial reasons?

Such as; wearing a swimsuit, that is internationally recognized all over the world, and in EVERY Thai

fashion magazine, is reason for her rape and murder??!!

I am appalled by you, and all others that take to this kind of hypocrisy and ignorant behavior.

Unless you can reply with a reasonable rebuttal, you offer nothing to this thread but ignorance.

Take it easy on those steroids, tough guy.

"to err is human; to forgive, divine" (Alexander Pope, "Essay on Criticism")

To you he intended to blame the victim in some way. In reality the translation of what he said is no different to other conservative people in European history. Heard of the Victorian era? Temptation is the downfall of man and all that crap. People actually still believe this stuff so he is not coming from a different planet...

He is not comparable to ISIS as some moron wrote earlier, just a leader who is not used to being in the spotlight and misspoke. Does this deserve the outpouring of hatred and condemnation?

Here's an idea, let everyone who thinks they could do better present their thoughts on whether it is advisable for young people to be drinking and wandering around scantily clothed at 3am, in a deserted area anywhere in the world?

Clearly it would be unwise. Unless they're not beautiful...

You can minimize the rest of it all you want, those last four words mark him as a genuinely insensitive donkey regardless.

Take your brothers'-in-law advice.

Be sure to emphasize you are definitely traveling their advised route. Leave earlier than planned ... as backup.

Your doing this is priceless as it will enhance family bonds and camaraderie. Even if time is lost.

Exactly. It is a grave insult to a man in any country to imply that he doesn't know the best route to take to any reasonably local destination you can name. Certainly I would feel obliged to take it as such. It's an international bloke thing.

IPVanish working well. Thanks!

Friends,

Can anybody recommend a fast VPN service to access content only available in India? In the past I've used hidemyass.com, but have had pretty disappointing results the last couple of days. It's been difficult to connect, and the service has been a bit slow after connecting too. They were great last time I used it about 6 months ago...

Can anybody point me to a VPN I might have more success with? Thanks in advance!

Cocopops.

Why would any woman fight for the right to be abused and subdued by men?

Exactly the question that the journalists should be asking. And one with a simple, yet tragic answer: Because they seriously believe that it is the will of the creator of the universe that they do so, and that by obeying his will they will avoid the wrath of said creator.

Socrates said that no man (or woman, he might have added) sins wittingly. I think that applies particularly well here. These men and women are not evil, just terribly misinformed. And it seems that if the POTUS gets his way, many of them will be slaughtered like animals for this crime. Yet the alternative - allowing them to recreate the cauldron of hellish human suffering that was Afghanistan under the Taliban - is far, far worse.