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As suggested by 7by7 and others

• Leaving Thailand; show US passport to airline at check in, Thai passport to Thai immigration.

I would like to do this but the immigration officer will want to see that the boarding pass and departure card passport information be matched , which it will not in our case since we plan on purchasing the ticket with a US passport information, since the airline company will not allow us to by one-way ticket with thai passport.

Is my fear of not wanting to show US passport justified? I do not want to create any issues with exiting immigration officer as we entered thailand without ever showing US passport which has NO STAMPS

The immigration officer in Thailand is not interested in how you bought your ticket and in any case a boarding card does not contain this info.

The airline is only interested in you both being US citizens or having visas if not.

I'm now convinced that they are not interested in how I bought the ticket, but I assumed that this day in age the airline checking system is probably linked to immigration officers system. I admit, I'm being a bit paranoid, but I just dont want to deal with any potential headaches.

Thai citizens are free to leave the country and stay abroad as long as want, as far as I know. My wife had no problems to buy a one-way ticket and leave the country. There might be special regulations for traveling to the US. Airlines might be obliged to check if passengers have the right to enter the US. Usually this happens during check-in, not when buying the ticket. Anyway, presenting the US passport during the purchase does not mean that passport info appears on the boarding pass or departure card. Using only the Thai passport at immigration should still be possible.

Can't back it up with facts but I agree Thai citizens have no limit in how long they stay abroad, however "in our experience" the airline companies WILL NOT ISSUE a one way to a thai citizen ticket, maybe USA final destination plays a role in it. Not trying to state names here but the national airline carrier said NO WAY must be purchased with US passport only, while other carriers said we will issue BUT you must provide both passports to be inputted in to the system. This was over the phone conversation and over the phone ticket purchase.

"Anyway, presenting the US passport during the purchase does not mean that passport info appears on the boarding pass or departure card."

This statement makes sense to me.

"They like to sometimes say that under Thai law you must give up one of the nationalities. This is apparently actually true but not enforced in practice."

It's not enforced because it isn't true. There is no 'must give up...' law.

A misconception because of a law that allows a Thai to give up one nationality - if they choose to do so. Nothing about 'must'.

I just got back from the CheangWattana Main Immigration Office and spoke with at least half a dozen officers.

First group of officers behind the front desk which looked to be a senior level with two junior level. Senior level officer did most of the talking, stating "if I were you I would not take the risk of showing that you have dual citizen even if your child is a minor as technically its against the law. 9 out of 10 times you will be fine but do not be surprised if you one of these officer will report you as having dual citizen all the while the two other officers butting in with couple words and nodding their head in agreement.

Not sure if this what some sort of scare tactic or more likely an uninformed employee, so I proceed to wander around looking for another officer to ask and pretty much was in line with what the first group of officers said.

2 strikes I went for the 3rd, I searched for a third officer on the other side of the building and was told the same. Each and every time I said "BUT shes a minor, under 18, infact only 6 yrs old"....and received similar answers in the like of "DOESN'T MATTER, will not guarantee outcome and has seen it happen but not often".

As suggested by 7by7 and others

• Leaving Thailand; show US passport to airline at check in, Thai passport to Thai immigration.
  

I would like to do this but the immigration officer will want to see that the boarding pass and departure card passport information be matched , which it will not in our case since we plan on purchasing the ticket with a US passport information, since the airline company will not allow us to by one-way ticket with thai passport.

Is my fear of not wanting to show US passport justified? I do not want to create any issues with exiting immigration officer as we entered thailand without ever showing US passport which has NO STAMPS

Many (most?) countries do require people exiting to show their passport and be stamped out.

The UK abolished such routine checks in the 1990s as a cost saving measure, but I was unaware that the USA had done so too. The UK do carry out random passport checks on people leaving, does the US?

However, in countries where passports are checked on leaving, they are not interested in whether or not the person has the correct entry clearance for their destination; only that they have not overstayed in the country they are leaving.

The airline, or other carrier, are interested as they are subject to large fines if they knowingly carry a passenger who does not have the correct entry clearance for their destination.

So, as suggested above:

• Leaving Thailand; show US passport to airline at check in, Thai passport to Thai immigration.
• Arriving in USA; show US passport to US immigration.
• Leaving USA; show Thai passport to airline at check in, US passport, if asked, to US immigration.
• Arriving in Thailand; show Thai passport to Thai immigration.

Random checks at US airports? Not that I am aware of but I wouldnt be surprised if this is done.

Countries that check if the person overstayed? Why would this be done to thai nationals leaving thailand?

Here is where the problem lies, if I purchase the ticket with a US passport then the boarding pass and the departure card will state the US passport number. This number must match the passport info when shown to the immigration officer upon exiting thailand, which it wouldnt since I plan on showing thai passport.

I do not want to show the US passport as I rather show the thai passport.

But now I am hearing from you guys that the immigration officer will careless if I show the US passport when exiting as long as its accompanied by thai passport, then I guess my problem is solved.

Thank you for the reply. I was just concerned the immigration officer upon exiting, would makes us require us to show a return flight.

I guess if thats the case we would need to show him a US passport?

But I'm trying to avoid any potential headaches by showing him the US passport.

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If the child has a legal Thai passport he or she should have no need to show a return ticket to enter Thailand.

In the same way a U.S. citizen wouldn't need to show a return ticket in entering the U.S.

Thais need no visa to enter Thailand, just to show their Thai passport.

Use the U.S. passport to exit and re-enter the U.S. and use the Thai passport to enter and exit Thailand.

Yes this was my initial thoughts, however I had thought the rules were different here and that thais need to show return ticket back to thailand, what you and I thought makes common sense but than again this is thailand.

Maybe its just the US that we do not have to show our US passport when we exit, in fact no one does citizen or not, however why do thais need to show their passport when they leave the country or is this normal practice through the world and US is the only few exception?

UPDATE: After speaking with several airline companies, wife is saying that some of these airline companies will not issue my daughter a one way ticket with thai passport unless they have US passport. And another airline company said they will link both passports to the ticket other wise cannot issue ticket on thai passport only.

Infact they WILL NOT ISSUE one way ticket to ANY thais that only hold a thai passport, I didnt believe this so I made my wife call 2 other airline companies in thailand and again told the same thing. HOW WEIRD

Maybe we received the wrong information but we heard this from 5 other airline companies with offices in thailand.

Thank you for clearing up my own confusion.

Thank you for the reply. I was just concerned the immigration officer upon exiting, would makes us require us to show a return flight.

I guess if thats the case we would need to show him a US passport?

But I'm trying to avoid any potential headaches by showing him the US passport.

Can my dual citizen child leave thailand on a one way ticket with thai passport?

They entered with a thai passport couple years ago and planning to leave to US with a one way ticket, and were planning to purchase the return flight right around a year later.

Possibility stay over year thus the reason for one way ticket.

120km in 30mins? Quickie in pattaya now possible.

Anyone have any experiences shipping to foriegn US military basis located outside of US? Specifically APO

Wondering if there is any limitations of packages shipping out of thailand to foreign US military bases.

Boggles my mind, not a single death but life sentence.

In my experience, regular mail takes 14 to 20 days to US (west coast) and just last week I used airmail which arrive in 7 days.

With the type of proper investigation going around here, I wonder how many of those suicides were not self infilcted.

And were foreigners added to 3900.

Thailand suicide rate is actually in the lower half compared to the rest of the world.

I want to sell my condo but the current tenant is not cooperating in showing to potential buyers. Infact he is not allowing anyone to view.

Of course I respect his privacy and completely understand his situation.

What right do I have to have my property open for viewing.

I have screened many buyers so that I make sure I allow only the most serious buyers to limit the number of visits to 1 or maybe 2 a month.

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If we were anywhere but thailand there would be a public outcry. In Thailand, people don't care cos it's not their kid.


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This is what really pisses me off about this place.

 

There are mechanisms in place to ensure safety, and these mechanisms are all born out of frustration after similar tragedies in the past, yet they do not get adhered to or enforced. They just wait for it to happen again where they will temporally enforce the system only for it to fall along the wayside for it to repeat itself yet again.

 

I'm afraid this is Thainess, and it has many many flaws.

Some of you guys think you come from the perfect world only to bash your host country every chance you get.

So lesson is learned every time a tragic event happens in your home country? Maybe your govt. needs to hold your hands a little tighter for any accountability.

Right, I forgot nothing ever stupid comes our of your country.

Not everyone is as smart as you guys.

This shit happens all over the world all the time.

Lets work on metropolitan transportation first, more bts and mrt lines.

Just curious in why this is getting national attention when kids get raped and murdered very often here, I'm I right?

Life in a Thai prison with: "Child Rapist & Murderer" tattooed across their forehead and back for all to see.

Sounds like death penalty to me, save the ink, use the needle.

I see lots of AA and AAA but do they have D if so where and what are the average prices for pack of 2?

I am getting a different experience as I have a higher rate of retailers checking my signature than in the US. Very rare for a cashier to check in the US as well as multiple times asked to sign my new card on the spot before making even large purchases that are in the thousands of US dollar.

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Sorry no camera filter to dim the sun

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Look up in the sky as you will see a sundog

5 and half but probably more suitable for 7 and up but still she manages simple designs

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Sorry I forgot to mention that I'm here in bkk for 1.5 months as I normally live in chiangmai...thought since were here for the kids during the short summer break we could go cheaper.