Shuguk

Well one of the features of ATM's now is the ability to transfer cash to others accounts, pay bills, order pizza etc, so I guess you are wrong, they have these features.

Is it annoying at times, yes.

I`ve only taken cash out and didn`t know about the extra facilities. Thanks for enlightening me.

It happened once to me and the guy had a lot written down on a piece of paper, now I know why. Next time I won`t get annoyed.

Shug

Thailand is the ATM capital of the world. Just go to another one couple hander meter away

Yes, you are correct but I am paranoid the machine gobbles up my card....again. Did it once and I was lucky it was outside a bank, and it was during banking hours. I was in Thailand on holiday at the time. Can you imagine the predicament I would be in if it had been a remote ATM? And how much sleep would I have had that night?

But you are theoretically correct.

Well one of the features of ATM's now is the ability to transfer cash to others accounts, pay bills, order pizza etc, so I guess you are wrong, they have these features.

Is it annoying at times, yes.

I`ve only taken cash out and didn`t know about the extra facilities. Thanks for enlightening me.

It happened once to me and the guy had a lot written down on a piece of paper, now I know why. Next time I won`t get annoyed.

Shug

Have a money back-up plan in case you lose your card (I usually have more cash than I need for a few days just in case, and a second emergency only card for when the ATM swallows mine, it can happen)

I agree, it happened to me. Luckily it was an ATM outside a bank and I got them to go out and get it. Now I always go to a bank during working hours and try not to use these isolated ATM`s unless I really have to.

Also take ENGLISH notes (not Scottish) and travellers cheques as a back-up. The travellers cheques can be returned to the bank for the same value as bought, after your trip.

Shug

Scotland may indeed be the Issan of the UK.

I agree with that. Beautiful countryside, wonderful hard-working people and a long way from the seat of government. Devolution for Issan......which brings us back to my point of this thread......thank you. Just do it peacefully.

Shug

^^ Good grief, who woke up and made you Mod?

1] Arrogant. I will qualify that with arse.

2] Opinionated and judgemental (see arse above)

3] Aye, and so is a bottle of Indian 'whisky'

4] Just in time for the next 'Party on the Plaza'

Shug, dinna fash yersel wi th' bleth'rin skite.

I know, I know and I don`t. He`s been all over the place with his posts today. At least 11 and mostly negative.

There are too many negative or non-commital posts on the forums and as for the posts that just show a smiley face, well, what a waste of a website. Maybe Thaivisa should devote a forum especially for smiley faces.....or somehow not add to their number of posts cos I`m convinced some people just do it to add to their totals. Ha, they say you cannot take your money to your grave, well you can`t take your Thaivisa totals either.

Sorry, just venting. Maybe the jetlag is getting to me....or is it cos I`ve not had a pint for 2 nights cos of the travelling? Well that is getting rectified in 10 minutes cos I`m off to the pub to watch the fitba oan the telly...Bayern Munich v Inter Milan. I`ll have a pint waiting oan the bar if yie can make it in time.

Take care

Shug

This thread has been a complete failure with silliness from the opening reply. Has my suggestion been discussed before? Is it so ridiculous to think of a devolved Thailand with the areas more involved with decisions for there own voters? Or am I just stupid for suggesting a small protest group can come to power, even in Thailand?

Shug

Shug,

Some points;

1] Don't bother to sign your posts...we know who you are.

2] This thread is a failure due to you not reading the following;

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Temporary-Po...al-t355369.html

3] I am of Scottish descent.

4] If you wait about 2 or 3 months, you may be able to talk about such things.

Don't be disheartened...be patient. Now is NOT the time to post anything that can be construed as political in the General Topics section.

Ok Elky, point taken, and thanks. I was in Thailand when that was issued and using internet cafes where it is hot and sticky and was waiting for the mossies to get me. I`ll shut up now.

No resemblance at all!

The Scots have for the last 13 years been bought and paid for by the English thanks to the Scottish Mafia wing of the Labour party. Without the ENGLISH money Scotland would cease to exist. Why do you think that donkey in charge of the SNP has never pushed for complete autonomy ? Because he knows that without the huge cash subsidies from the English Scotland would go broke.

To try to compare what is happening here in Thailand is senseless. The SNP didn't achieve anything by non violence they were handed it on a plate to help push though decisions in Parliament.

The only comparison between the two is that in Issan they get drunk on Lao Kaow and in Glasgow it is Buckfast Oh and it is a dam_n site safer in Issan than it is in Goven !

Is there any point in pointing out that, since the English rediscovered the cross of St George, the only place in the UK where the Union Flag is flown regularly at football grounds is in Govan.

Shug I believe is from the other side of the country.

You are correct, but have followed the job in a North-east direction (reluctantly). And thank you for spelling GOVAN correctly.

This thread has been a complete failure with silliness from the opening reply. Has my suggestion been discussed before? Is it so ridiculous to think of a devolved Thailand with the areas more involved with decisions for there own voters? Or am I just stupid for suggesting a small protest group can come to power, even in Thailand?

Shug

Ok, here`s what I was getting at.......

If the SNP can get where they are now by negotiation, perhaps the redshirts (or whatever-shirts) can do the same, and get better results than was arrived at this time. Is there a case for devolution in Thailand? That is where the relevance to Thailand comes in.

Now, was that too much to understand, or has too many Leo`s addled the brain.

Still, 235 readers and only a couple of d*ckhead replies!!!

Shug

Are you refering to the Scottish calendar?

BTW, your topic is yet another feeble excuse to discuss the already overdone political discussion.

No Elky, sorry, I cannot open your calendar (but will try again)......and I have already agreed with you about the overdone political discussion (repitition)

Isaan is a bit like Aberdeen to me because in both cases I have not a clue what the locals are talking about.

ken what am saying butt.

Fit like Scully ma loon?

I doubt Thailand can learn anything from Scotland.

Apart from having the word Thailand in the title I don't see that this topic has any Thailand relevance.

You may as well start a thread .... is there a parallel with the Isle of Dogs/Margate/Uzbekistan

or, just go and make another cup of tea.

Ok, here`s what I was getting at.......

If the SNP can get where they are now by negotiation, perhaps the redshirts (or whatever-shirts) can do the same, and get better results than was arrived at this time. Is there a case for devolution in Thailand? That is where the relevance to Thailand comes in.

Now, was that too much to understand, or has too many Leo`s addled the brain.

Still, 235 readers and only a couple of d*ckhead replies!!!

Shug

No resemblance at all!

The Scots have for the last 13 years been bought and paid for by the English thanks to the Scottish Mafia wing of the Labour party. Without the ENGLISH money Scotland would cease to exist. Why do you think that donkey in charge of the SNP has never pushed for complete autonomy ? Because he knows that without the huge cash subsidies from the English Scotland would go broke.

To try to compare what is happening here in Thailand is senseless. The SNP didn't achieve anything by non violence they were handed it on a plate to help push though decisions in Parliament.

The only comparison between the two is that in Issan they get drunk on Lao Kaow and in Glasgow it is Buckfast Oh and it is a dam_n site safer in Issan than it is in Goven !

Ha ha, I`ve worked in Govan and know what you are talking about.....and you are correct. But you miss my point. However good or bad they rule Scotland they still got to that point. That is what I am trying to say.

Here they say you never argue about politics and football in a pub......it seems Thaivisa can be added to that list.

As for your comments about money, I`m definitely not going to mention oil......oops, too late, I`ve said it, but I agree about your comments about the donkey. The SNP has always been a protest vote, much like the Liberals, but I again stress that they have managed to get where they are from a small group of protestors not that many years ago. That was my point, and why I raised it as a possibility in Thailand.

I`m not going to comment about English contributions to the UK economy cos there are lots of Scots working and living in England, same as there are lots of English working and living in Scotland. Fact, live with it.

Shug

I can never spell "god" correctly.

Unfortunately for you, the political boundary has been pushed beyond ac

Ha,ha I like it. Maybe you are correct about the political contributions but I have been out in the sticks in a village, with a single internet cafe, and surrounded by local children noisily playing games. I have not noticed how many `closed` threads there are.

I thought my contribution not only was constructive but also something interesting to read if anybody was at a loose end. Maybe you are at a loose end and playing ping-pong with me. I am still jetlagged and not in the mood for ping-pong. Please go and read about the safe-cracker, there are a few websites and maybe better than the one I sent. An interesting but sad story.

Take care

Shug.

Oh dear Dog!!! Not more politics!

As you being a `Boundary pusher` I might expect a bit more in your contribution. Is "Oh dear Dog" a local saying?

And yes, I agree "Not more politics" could be correct. But maybe "Moderators, could you send this to the correct forum please" might have been more forward-thinking. Or are you one of those people that like to see a higher total number of posts against your name?

Have you ever started off a topic, or do you like to high-jack others?

Shug

Hi,

I`m just back (yesterday) from a 2 month visit to Thailand, to a dairy farming area near Pak Chong. My 3rd visit in 9 months...... due to a funeral.

Of course all the talk among the locals were events in BKK with everything unfolding on television.

I do not know all the history of what happened leading up to what we all saw but it made me very very sad.

I do not speak Thai but enough was translated by my gf and it made me think of Scotland and what has happened here over the last 60-odd years, with what was a protest group.....the Scottish National Party. It made me think of the progress of that party and the way it was achieved, so different from what is happening in Thailand. No fighting, no killing, just dialogue and persistance. Now the Scottish National Party are the ruling party in a devolved Scotland, in the UK.

Things also made me think of a safe-cracker called Johnny Ramenski, a prisoner in a Scottish jail during the 39-45 war, who was used by the britsh Army for his expertise to extract important documents from safes behind the enemy lines.

My points really are that, if you really want to put over your political thoughts, perhaps fire-power is not the way. And if you have a particular skill, why not use it. To any party in Thailand I would say....."go and study what happened in Scotland"....."and maybe, with the will of the people who support you, you will reach your goal".

And to the Thai government I would say....."if you have a guy with the skill to make lots of money....use him for the good of the country". But maybe it is too late for this one.

I tried to put these models to my friendly locals (of many years). They listened politely but I think it maybe fell on deaf ears...."This is Thailand" they would say.

Try these websites:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Scottish_National_Party

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Ramensky

Take care

Shug.

I have a need to stay in Thailand for an extra month. I am a UK national and have the above noted visa (issued in Hull) and was originally going back to Scotland on the 20th April. This was ok as the visa runs out on the 25th April. Circumstances have it that I would like to stay for another month.

I have it in my head that I can do a border run prior to the 25th and I will get an extension for 90 days. Am I correct in my thoughts.

I am sure I could find out this info somewhere but I am stuck in an internet cafe out in the sticks in Issan.

Im equally sure the good people on this forum can give me the best advice.

Thanks and take care

Shug

Sounds like she doesn't want to work and enlisted her friends as to why your idea would not work to avoid it ever happening.

How much do you give her per month?

What does how much I give her a month have to do with you? but I will answer with a question to you. Are we talking Scottish pound notes, Baht or cc?

Sorry, I did not want to lower myself but I couldnt resist (sorry moderators).

Actually she is a real grafter and woe betide me if I leave a mess behind me.

Thanks for all the replies.

Shug

I was told by my mates wife that the village near me all the lads had guns and that l should be worried, l thought, how does she know.

Turns out, jealous cos we have a bigger better house than her.

Firstly, love your avatar, Shug. Doubtless you are Tynie visitor.

I suspect that by discussing the undesirability of keeping fowl, your wife's "hen" party are trying to signal they'd rather you didn't. Who knows why? Perhaps they don't want to be woken by the male of the species early in the morning.

As to the snakes, Mr. Kipling would have suggested you keep mongooses as weel.

Ha ha, love all the replies........and yes Im frae Edinburgh originally.....left many years ago following the work. A season ticket holder for a while about 30 years ago at tynecastle.

Am in Thailand at the moment, up near Pak Chong. Had to come due to the death of the gf dad, that followed by 5 days of.....well, bewilderment I think.

Anyway, am at an internet cafe and got to go.........speak to you all again when I get back to some sort of normality.

Take care

Shug

If anything from what I have learned chickens are a good way to keep snakes away,

The hens go mental if a snake is close to the chicks and will peck at it until he has had enough and beats a retreat,

Thats what they tell me in my village.

I think thats where the word hen pecked comes from colino

Thanks for the input guys. Unfortunately I will be able to carry out your advice very soon. After a phone call last night (friday) we have to leave today to attend the funeral of the gf father. Rush, rush, rush at the moment, with the plane leaving in 4 hours.

Thanks again

Shug

On our last visit to our property in Thailand, in the depths of the countryside near Pak Chong, I had asked my better half if it was an idea to have some hens, so there were eggs to sell. She wasn`t too struck on the idea and let me know that, but seemed to enlist the locals to back up her disagreement.

At the nightly get-togethers (always seemed to be at our house when we are there, tho definitely not a problem) suddenly there were a lot of snake stories, strangely all that had apparently taken place in the previous day or two.

An Anaconda seen eating a chicken in the farm next door, a cobra.....and her baby....crossing the road within 200 metres of our place and the silly cobra that rose in front of a local, but was facing the wrong way, again very near the house. Even the river that runs along the bottom of the property got a mention with a snake being caught in a fishing trap.

I`m laughing here (cos I`m back in Scotland) but should I really be?

Shug

As stated above, one can have dual nationality under both UK and Thai law. There is no requirement to choose once you become 21. That is based on a wrong interpretation of the Thai nationality law and many Thai people hold dual nationality without ever choosing.

One would have to register the birth with the Thai embassy, with the help of the British birth certificate. At the same time one can apply for a Thai passport, both parents have to agree to a passport for the child. relevant documents can be found on the website of the Thai embassy.

A Thai ID-card can not be obtained till 15 years old, and one has to be registered on someones tabien baan and applied for at the amphur where registered.

Thanks to everybody that replied.

The problem here is that a nine year-old boy with 2 passports is being left everything (land and properties) in Thailand by both his Thai mother and English father (they both now live in the UK but in the process of divorce). I am trying to find out if there could be a problem in the future regarding his claim on the estates. I have flagged it up to them and now up to them.

Thanks again for the input

Shug

My daughter was born in UK but she now lives in Thailand, she has a British and Thai passport and a Thai ID card. She is named as the 'second' owner behind my wife (who has duel nationality) on the Thai house document. From what I have heard, as long as I don't go shouting about it, the Thai authorities will not 'force' my daughter to choose between UK and Thai nationality.

Thanks David, exactly what I was seeking......info from somebody that has been through the process. Now we wait until the boy can get his ID card.....his name is already on the house document.

Take care

Shug

Above information is at least partly incorrect. But the law is a bit unclear on the point of acquiring another nationality out of ones own free will and if that will make one lose Thai nationality. (This must be distinguished from the situation that someone has dual nationality by way of law, because of parents with two different nationality for example).

One of the persons who know a lot about Thai nationality questions is member Samran. He is of the opinion that the you can keep Thai nationality.

Ok guys, thanks for the input.

I think a visit to a Thai lawyer is required next time we are over. This is now 2 topics I have posted about Thai law and marriages Thai/farang, and both seem to have brought up issues. Howver, again, thanks for the replies.

Shug

As stated above, one can have dual nationality under both UK and Thai law. There is no requirement to choose once you become 21. That is based on a wrong interpretation of the Thai nationality law and many Thai people hold dual nationality without ever choosing.

One would have to register the birth with the Thai embassy, with the help of the British birth certificate. At the same time one can apply for a Thai passport, both parents have to agree to a passport for the child. relevant documents can be found on the website of the Thai embassy.

A Thai ID-card can not be obtained till 15 years old, and one has to be registered on someones tabien baan and applied for at the amphur where registered.

Thanks to everybody that replied.

The problem here is that a nine year-old boy with 2 passports is being left everything (land and properties) in Thailand by both his Thai mother and English father (they both now live in the UK but in the process of divorce). I am trying to find out if there could be a problem in the future regarding his claim on the estates. I have flagged it up to them and now up to them.

Thanks again for the input

Shug

This is a question and answer from another website. It is about a young guy that was born in the UK to a Thai mum and UK dad. Is this, in fact, true? Surely many families will have been affected if true. Any comments/advice?

<H1 style="MARGIN: auto 0cm">"Can i get a thai passport? can i buy land once i have a passport?</H1>my mother is thai and my dad is english, i have lived in england all my life (19 years) and have an english passport.

<H2 style="MARGIN: auto 0cm">Best Answer - Chosen by Voters</H2>As a child to a Thai mother, you are entitled to dual citizenship. You can go to the Thai Embassy in London with your mother. Take both your certificate of birth and your british passport with you. The embassy compelled to give you the Thai nationality, and hence the passport. You do not buy them, but you would have to pay a fee approx. 1,000 baht (about 63 baht to a pound).

The catch is when you turn 20 years of age, you must give up your British citizenship and have proper official evidence to present to the Thai embassy within six months. Otherwise, you then loose your Thai nationality.

That is the Thai law on nationality.

Only one incident that a Thai can hold dual (or more citizenship) that is a Thai women married to a foreigner, and by doing so she gains additional nationality, then she is allowed to retain the Thai nationality unless she opts to give it up. (This law has just been reinterpreted about ten years ago.) Once you have the Thai passport, you then entitled to everything as a Thai person has, voting right, purchasing land, and the duty of serving in the armed forces, namely.

Good luck and welcome to Thailand."

Thanks,

Shug

This is a question and answer from another website. It is about a young guy that was born in the UK to a Thai mum and UK dad. Is this, in fact, true? Surely many families will have been affected if true. Any comments/advice?

<H1 style="MARGIN: auto 0cm">"Can i get a thai passport? can i buy land once i have a passport?</H1>my mother is thai and my dad is english, i have lived in england all my life (19 years) and have an english passport.

<H2 style="MARGIN: auto 0cm">Best Answer - Chosen by Voters</H2>As a child to a Thai mother, you are entitled to dual citizenship. You can go to the Thai Embassy in London with your mother. Take both your certificate of birth and your british passport with you. The embassy compelled to give you the Thai nationality, and hence the passport. You do not buy them, but you would have to pay a fee approx. 1,000 baht (about 63 baht to a pound).

The catch is when you turn 20 years of age, you must give up your British citizenship and have proper official evidence to present to the Thai embassy within six months. Otherwise, you then loose your Thai nationality.

That is the Thai law on nationality.

Only one incident that a Thai can hold dual (or more citizenship) that is a Thai women married to a foreigner, and by doing so she gains additional nationality, then she is allowed to retain the Thai nationality unless she opts to give it up. (This law has just been reinterpreted about ten years ago.) Once you have the Thai passport, you then entitled to everything as a Thai person has, voting right, purchasing land, and the duty of serving in the armed forces, namely.

Good luck and welcome to Thailand."

Thanks,

Shug

I can not believe they left out Only Fools and Horses. This is just one link, but there are loads at You Tube.

Trigger - "Why does everyone call you Rodney Dave"

Rodney - "Because it's my name Trig"

Trigger and his broom sticks out for me

Shug