Lichiyado

4 minutes ago, david555 said:

Yes we are in many cases a "sitting Duck" to shoot ! (any unexpected visit from I.O or at Immigration for any simple reason . ) 

This is why I generally err on the side of caution regarding immigration matters. Whether or not an I.O. looks at me as if I'm crazy when I ask about the funds reporting policy, I'll still ask the question. Information is power...to me.

5 minutes ago, david555 said:

Your passport shows your travelling by their own immigration stamps out & in ,if international travelling ! inside country is more complicated 

Yes, in-country proof for the reason of delay could be more complicated, if not impossible. But at this point, proof of the reason for delay is just a suggestion to grease the wheel. It is not formal immigration policy that I am aware of. Kind of wait-and-see at this point.

13 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

No reason to report if not ordered. There is a reason to comply with the post seasoning rules whether there is a need to report or not.

 

The national rule is about the seasoning rules. It says nothing about enforcement specifics. Orders to report or not are local enforcement matters. Really it would be crazy and not even welcome to attempt a bank book report if not ordered.

I see your point. Jomtien has made it's requirements clear. The other immigration offices, not so much that I am aware of. For extension filers at other offices, please ask the immigration officer, "Do I need to report after 90 days/3 months?" Please report back what you discover.

11 hours ago, Beggar said:

I asked at Jomtien Immigration what happens if you fall below 800.000 until you report after 3 months. Answer - you will lose your visa. I also asked how many days you can come after this 3 months date. Didn't get a clear answer. A friend who leaves the country and can't report on this date was told he should report when he comes back. But what was made clear was that you cannot come before this date because the 800.000 need to be on your account until this date. I also was told that no bank letter is needed. Just an updated bank book showing the 800.000 balance on this date. 

Thank you for this information. It concurs with my experience at Jomtien, and expands on it a bit. It would make sense that if your reporting is delayed due to travel or whatever, if you can still show 800,000 in your account when you are able to report, you're good.  The consensus seems to be they are (currently) flexible about the 90 day/three month funds reporting date, at least at the Jomtien office. Don't come early, but a little bit late seems to be OK. I agree with another poster who suggested bringing some sort of proof of the reason for your delay, such as an air ticket. I hope others pipe up about other immigration offices.

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

No, that is not what I said at all.

If you're ordered to make a bank book report after you get your extension, by all means report.

If not ordered, then don't. 

But still comply with the post seasoning rules.

They are 800K baht three months after and 400K baht for the rest of the year before the next pre seasoning period.

If you don't you put your status into a risk state even if not ordered to report. Also it might mean rejection for your next extension.

These new onerous seasoning rules are serious. I hate them but I wouldn't consider trying to flout them, report orders or not. 

Now I realize some people are going to violate the post seasoning rules for very good reasons, emergency expenses, etc.

I think it's awful that there doesn't appear that there will any flexibility in such cases.

It's no mystery why many more people than usual are looking at alternatives to Thailand. 

OK, I misunderstood you.  I'm still of the opinion that the onus of responsibility lies with the visa holder to check, double check, triple check with his or her immigration branch to see what their post seasoning funds reporting process/rules are.  Perhaps as more people file for their visa extension and report back to TV there can be greater clarity about the reporting requirements of each office. Jomtien has made itself clear.  Report.  No one I am aware of has clarified what will happen if you fail to report.  I feel it's dangerous to assume that, just because you haven't been formally instructed how or if to report, that you shouldn't bother.  Regarding the 800,000 requirement, I agree.  Don't dip below.  I also agree, the new rules are onerous.

8 hours ago, Jingthing said:

8 hours ago, Mansell said:

Friend did his 90 day online this week and there was no mention of showing any kind of bank book and the seasoning of the 800,000 baht. This was in Korat.

Yes but he would be well advised to follow the post seasoning rules, report or not. That's because if he doesn't under the new rules he would be technically subject to extension cancellation. This is so new also that you don't know that they won't demand a report later in the year either if/when they get their act together with the new onerous regime.

Just to clarify, please keep in mind that the 90 day report (TM47) has nothing to do with the post seasoning funds reporting requirements. I received information about my funds reporting requirements when I filed an extension of my retirement visa, not when visiting the 90 day report table. I agree with Jingthing...report your funds, via your bookbank or bank documentation, whether or not you are asked to.  At this point it is unclear to me whether to report 90 days or three months after you file for your extension. If immigration doesn't give you a specific date to report, 90 days seems to be a safe bet IMHO.  Maybe there's a few days wiggle room here, not sure, but better safe than screwed.

28 minutes ago, thecolonel said:

Three questions please

1. I've been working on the principal that my original 800,000 baht has remained 'untouched' for 2 years and that because of that I'm unaffected by any changes. But am I correct in thinking that?

2. Income- provided I continue to leave the 800,000 untouched do I satisfy all requirements re income? Because I've never proved any income before now. Plus I'm too young for a pension and rely on investment income/capital. Do I need to start to prove any of that?

3. Anything else I need to watch out for?

I'm not an immigration pro, but nothing you mention triggers a red flag in my awareness.  I see no need to worry, if you have the proper documentation from your bank proving you have had at least 800,000 THB in your account for 2 months.  That said, if anyone reading this is familiar with Hua Hin immigration and their procedures, or familiar with having a static bank account, or other significant assistance, please pipe up.  Of course one option is go to the Hua Hin office and talk to an officer about this.  Another option is to post your concerns in a separate thread as an Original Poster (OP).  I'm afraid your questions will get buried in my post. 

39 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

43 minutes ago, Lichiyado said:

I didn't ask directly, but everything I've read indicates that you lose your visa.

I haven't read anything from Immigration that says you will lose your extension (I assume you mean extension) as opposed to losing an O-A long stay visa.  If you do mean visa how would they know as I don't think they are checking that? 

Allow me to backtrack please. No I haven't read anything formal from Thai Immigration that you will lose your visa (or extension, which would essentially invalidate your visa as I understand it). I've been reading news reports and posts on TV. Perhaps these are hearsay, innuendo, or rumour. You've pointed out that I cannot state with certainty what the consequence would be of dipping below the required funds or how immigration will verify this information. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I will now keep my eyes open for formal information.

20 minutes ago, rumak said:

12 hours ago, Lichiyado said:

I wish I could quote the post that I read on TV, that someone asked the same question to an immigration officer.  The officer said to report as soon as you return.  For clarification you might want to drop into your immigration office.  My report date falls on Thai holidays which will delay my report by 2 days.  I will likely go to immigration right after the holidays, but as my report date gets closer, just to be cautious, I might drop in and ask which they prefer...before or after the holidays.

gee....someone who can actually come up with a solution to a complicated (for some) issue.   Go there and ask .  Might help to try remembering who you ask, too. An "officer" would be best,  not a xchool kid helping out..

Not being sarcastic to you.   this is a compliment .   

You bring up a good point about talking to an officer rather than a go-fer. And getting their name. More often than not, I mean to look at the officer's name tag, but I forget. Leaving me vulnerable to "plausible deniability". But then again, getting into a "he said/she said" with an immigration officer is not my idea how to spend a lovely afternoon.

21 minutes ago, mdalco said:

I have been in Jomtien for 1-year retirement extension a few days ago and I asked when I can visit them to show the money in the bank as I will not be in Thailand on the due date in July. They simply said "LATER, when you come back", without any reference about fines or how many days later is allowed (you know the attitude they have in this office when you ask something....).  
My problem as some people already exposed is that I have a Kasikorn fixed deposit and the bank told me that it is not possible to get it updated every time (see a new printed out line), but I think a letter from the bank stating that the money is still there will be ok. For this reason, I think a normal book bank is better than a Fixed deposit for this issue. 

I can imagine the chaos in Jomtien with this new report as if today they have an average of "maybe" 200 1-year visas a day, later on, they will have to handle 400 people on the same day due to the 200 new money in the bank reports, and you know how small Jomtien office is.
Regards 

Ah, I believe you are the fellow I was looking for who posted elsewhere that immigration told you "later". Thanks for the tip. I agree that Jomtien and other offices might get inundated with funds reporting. I was told to come to the desk where I received my extension to report. Will I have to wait in line behind "extension-ers" or will they figure out a way to fast-track funds reporters? No idea.

3 hours ago, dotpoom said:

23 hours ago, Lichiyado said:

Though I did not ask directly, according to the form they gave me, prior seasoning of funds is now two months, rather than three.  I will double check when I do my bankbook visit.

That is indeed a new change we were notified about when the changes came into force. 

The reason I mentioned this is, depending on which immigration office you deal with, they might not have received the memo that the seasoning period is now two months rather than three. Jomtien seems up to speed with the new requirements. It's in my nature to double check. Or maybe it's paranoia?  ????

4 hours ago, Henryford said:

Did they say what would happen if your balance falls below 800k?

I didn't ask directly, but everything I've read indicates that you lose your visa.

10 minutes ago, david555 said:

5 hours ago, Somrak said:

I make my 90 Days over IN.

And Dir show them to show my money who stays for years, I WILL NOT visit them again!

Yes this is also my question, supposing some does not go in 90 days or 3 month's given date (for any reason , travelling or just not doing it ..) , but anyway having followed the rule not go under account as required and allowed , the whole year , proven by the next Ret. extension ….as you are in line with the money requirements …. what would be the consequences ? a fine like for late 90 day reporting , or similar ?

Good question.  No idea what the consequences for not reporting would be.  I'm sure reporting in person will be burdensome for some, especially if you are not close to an immigration office and there is no way to report online.  No question about going below the required amount though...you risk losing your visa.

2 hours ago, CRUNCHER said:

Any idea on flexibility as to when you return to Immigration?  What happens if you are out of Thailand for a few weeks on the due date?

I wish I could quote the post that I read on TV, that someone asked the same question to an immigration officer.  The officer said to report as soon as you return.  For clarification you might want to drop into your immigration office.  My report date falls on Thai holidays which will delay my report by 2 days.  I will likely go to immigration right after the holidays, but as my report date gets closer, just to be cautious, I might drop in and ask which they prefer...before or after the holidays.

10 hours ago, OJAS said:

May not be necessary for you to make any withdrawal if your account is with Bangkok Bank. I once stuck my Bangkok Bank passbook into an updating machine, and this printed out a line confirming the existing balance coded "B/F".

 

Can't vouch for other banks, though.

Good tip.  I'll give it a try.  I bank with SCB.

11 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

It think if is 3 months from the day you applied for the extension not 90 days.

All the posted dates I have seen are 3 months.

The date I applied for the extension was today, 18 April. The date stamped on the form I received was to visit immigration on 16 July.  89 days.  Go figure.  Yes, commencing from the date of the extension, not the visa due date.

On 10/6/2018 at 9:23 AM, Reluctant Traveller said:

Thanks for taking the time and using a language many can follow - also good humour.
 

I could justify replacing the whole thing as it's my time bandit.
However with youtube and the terrific support on here, a lot of the tech is slightly demystified and folk get encouraged to 'have a go' .
Being retired and the strong baht has gifted me a patience.

My pleasure, OP.  As a fellow retired person who used to own a full service small office/home office consulting business in Hawaii, I have passion for all tech.  And now it's a consuming hobby.  I highly recommend following the hobbyist path and do as much of the work yourself as you can.  It's very gratifying to get stuff working properly on your own, keeps your fingers and joints nimble, and it keeps your mind sharp.  With YouTube, tons of tech websites, installation manuals that nobody reads, and forums such as this, you can become proficient in no time...and offer your wizened services to your tech clueless buddies!  Good luck to you!

P.S.  I never commented about your original post topic "What about your data when your computers are being repaired".  If you do everything yourself, no need to even think about it.  If you do need to take it into a shop, pull all your hard drives.  You don't want a stranger sniffing your personal stuff.  They have spare hard drives and operating systems in the shop they can use to see if your hardware and their repair/upgrade is functioning properly.

But please, for your dignity and ours, please delete the "My Little Pony" game from your rig.  It's an embarrassment to all of us!  ????

On 10/3/2018 at 7:18 AM, Reluctant Traveller said:

cpu   -   Intel  i5 4670k                     
mobo -  AsRock  Z87 Extreme 6      
gpu  -   Nvidia GTX 780                 
hdd  -   WD Blue 1Tb   x2                    
ssd  -   Samsung 840 evo 250Gb    
psu  -  Raider FSP 790 750w           
ram -   8gb                            
Windows 7 Home - Basic.   

All assembled by JIB March 2014   

My problems = The bank of 4x 3.0 usb connections will work only with small usb sticks+keyboard+mouse but won't recognise 500gb/1tb (I've done the Youtube first aid stuff- only as far as I trust myself)
Also they won't eject cleanly (I have to wait until power off to pull the usb drives)

The overheating CPU may need replacing if I want to continue with newer games.

I'm in two minds about it all now !  ????

Better two minds than one or less, OP.  I'm surprised you have only two minds about all this, given the many suggestions you've received here, many of them quite sound.  Upon checking the specs of your current rig, I can see why you might want hold onto it and go the upgrade path.  This is a solid high-end system, and a capable gamer that probably cost you a pretty penny back in the day.  Now that I've seen your specs, I might be tempted to forego my original suggestion of buying a new rig and try for the upgrade to squeeze in a couple extra years.  But I don't think you're going to get much mileage from a new CPU unless your i5 is truly blown (I don't think it is).

Regarding your overheating CPU.  Yes, as some have mentioned, use a CPU temp measuring and alarm program.  Also, have you removed your CPU fan and tried reapplying the thermal compound between the CPU and the fan?  And was it done properly?  I've found this is the most common problem with an overheating CPU.  The thermal compound deteriorates with time.  And I've found Thai technicians often slather on the (cheap) thermal compound like peanut butter on toast.  Not good.  You can find instructions on applying new thermal compound on YouTube.  I prefer Arctic Silver, but everyone has their favorite.  If your fan is dinky, then go out and get the biggest fan your tower can support.  There are some suggestions on good fans and cooling systems in this thread.

The USB3 ports should be able to recognize and power your external hard drives with no trouble.  Have you tried a different USB HD to see if powers up and loads?  If it does, then It sounds like your troublesome USB HD or the HD controller built into the enclosure of the USB HD is kaput.  Can you pop the HD out of the USB enclosure and try to mount it into your tower using a SATA cable?  If it works then that would point to a kaput USB HD Controller in your HD enclosure.  A new enclosure is pretty cheap and would be suitable for your upgrade/repair path.

If you can't get any USB HD to power up and load then you have to determine if you have a software or hardware issue.  Some folks here mentioned some programs to use to test your hardware, but I'm not sure they would work in your case.  If you're having trouble ejecting ALL USB devices, then uninstalling your USB drivers and letting Win 7 reinstall them could provide a fix.  Or not.  A reinstall of the Win 7 OS is an option...essentially zeroing out your current system and starting from scratch.  This would reassign system resources that could have been mucked with or corrupted in a 4 year old system.  A pain, but worth consideration.

If you have a spare formatted HD and a Win 7 CD disk, you can pull your current C drive, install the spare HD, and do a basic installation on the spare HD (without a Microsoft validation attempt) and see if you can get your USB ports working.  If they work, then you know something is screwed up with your OS and the programs you've installed over the years.

If none of this works, then you have a hardware issue.  And since the USB ports are built onto the motherboard, then it's likely a failing motherboard.  You could replace it, and use your current tower, CPU, RAM, Video card, and power supply.

Now, please tell me your system is running at 64 bit?  With Win 7 Home Basic from 4 or 5 years ago, I wonder.  If it's running at 32 bit, your RAM is going to waste.  32 bit Windows can only recognize and use about 3.5 GB of your RAM.  If this is the case, I would certainly start with a fresh OS install and go 64 bit.  A 64 bit OS can use as much RAM as you throw at it, depending on the OS, up to 512 GB.  Windows 7 Home Basic 64 bit can handle 8 GB RAM max.

Or...forget everything I've said and get a new rig!

Forgive me for any redundancy or assumptions in my post.  It's late and I'm tired, and I didn't want to go back through the entire thread for a read.  Lots of options for troubleshooting.  At this point it's a process of elimination that all geeks go through when trying to repair a rig.

Keep us posted on your many minds, would you OP?  We're all curious about which mind is going to win.

Anyone know how late it will stay open? As we know Thais do not like sun.

For now, the park is open from 10:00 to 18:00.  No idea if they'll extend to evening hours later on.  I hope so.  Night festivities at this water park would be an absolute hoot.  Regarding sun, yup, they need to work on their shade.  It's OK now...plenty of seats and loungers with umbrellas but once the park swings its doors wide open, everyone will be clamoring for shade.  A few buildings, now in construction, will provide some shade but I'm not sure if it will be enough.  For me, 18:00 would be my ideal arrival time!

Nice report - how did you cross the road or did they offer on site parking somewhere?

Everyone parked on the water park side of the Sukhumvit or in the small parking lot onsite.  Nobody used the huge parking lot across the street.  I heard that a U-Turn shuttle or a pedestrian bridge is being considered, though I'm not sure if anything has been decided.

I went to the new Cartoon Network Amazone water park yesterday, 31 July.  Yesterday was the soft opening.  There are plenty of kinks to iron out but I had a blast.  I've been to many water parks in the US and this one has the potential to be world-class.  At this point only Annual Pass holders and their guests, and I believe corporate sponsors and investors are invited, though I was told by a staff member that it's possible daily passes might be allowed in a couple of months. 

The park is not ready for hordes of customers yet, though most of the slides are functional.  There was entertainment, some decent food and beverage service, locker and changing rooms, and the rides ranged from very relaxing and pleasant to delightfully terrifying.  IMO, it was a great way to spend a day.

The grand opening is scheduled toward the end of the year,   By that time everything should be up and running and construction should be complete.  At this point there are tons of friendly, helpful staff in training, and seriously diligent ongoing work to make this park successful.

I share some of the writer's concerns.  The parking and traffic issues need to be ironed out, and I'm hopeful the promo department will find a way to make the park more affordable, perhaps with special promotional events and discounts.  But honestly, somebody has to pay for this exciting and expensive behemoth.

On a personal note, I hate exercise but I love water parks.  Just the climb up the stairs to the slides felt like an enjoyable day of exercise followed by an exhilarating payoff.  Even the children's slides are adult-rated fun.

All in all, IMHO, two thumbs up.  Just don't forget your bucket of sunscreen and lycra swimming shirt (or at least a T-Shirt)  

P.S.  Nope, I'm not a shill or employee of the park.

At Jomtien, I generally have to wait until the next day to pick up my passport after the extension applications. So in that case, different applications on two different days.

Correct. It's a two day process. I'll do the re-entry on day two. Thanks again. You are a fount of recollection stimulation!

In case you are not aware, make sure that you purchase a reentry permit (or multiple ones) to save your new annual permission to stay. Otherwise, it will be worthless when you reenter Thailand.

Thanks Jingthing, I hadn't thought of that.

You're welcome. Bring an extra photo. Suggest you apply for that the moment you get your passport back with the new annual extension stamp.

Good idea. It'll be a busy day at immi. Better get a good night's sleep! Right now all I have to do is get my U.S. bank to pony up some dough quickly to my Thai account so I don't lose my O-A completely. Should have made the request before the holidays. Duh.