bridge

As long as it is in English in can be hand written or typed .... ps. signed of course (by hand)

Might just be a Mac thing but... I could fill out the .pdf forms and print them but couldn't save the edits. Said they were protected.

Hi Berek,

I am not sure what the problem is. I use a PC with Adobe Acrobat Pro and haven't had a problem.

Is it absolutely necessary to fill in the 40SP and 47SP forms using a pen, or is it OK to do it on a computer? I saw a post dated 2007 that said you must use a pen. Does it still apply?

The form on the Immigration Website states "please use a pen"

Pretty much says it all

No problem at all in doing it on a PC. In fact many of DIAC's forms are PDF fillable including the 40SP and 47SP.

I'm totally lost now.

I got the start of the thread I think, that was about an operative involved in some gold business whose commanding officer was replaced by a former assistant after just 2 months.

Now it talks about visas and stuff, I don't undersatand. Arai na?

LOL That's hilarious mate !!!

Arai wa?

My own personal opinion is that case officers are being allocated quicker to files than previously, but processing times have increased.

Perhaps the Embassy has a new system in place where applications are allocated to CO's ASAP but standard operating times apply. Who knows??

Hello Bridge,

Yes the full Permanent Visa status has been granted, so as you describe, the fee jumps "very BIG"

Strange difference in the two categories!

I think it is because a partner visa applicant is allowed to include dependent children in their initial application as secondary applicants with only one visa application charge paid by the primary applicant at time of application.

After the temporary partner visa application has been granted, but before the permanent partner visa (generally two years) they can more or less be added to that application. However once permanent residency is granted then it is a fresh application.

Agreed though there is a huge difference in the two visa application charges. 

What is the Visa Charge for the under 12 year old child of a Thai spouse who has already been granted PR, thus applying for PR as well to join the mother?

Is this charge able to be paid on-shore or off-shore in the same way as has been described above, and would the processing times be in keeping with the new much extended times on average.

Fishhooks,

If the mother still holds the temporary partner visa (subclass 309), then the child would apply for a Defendant Child Visa (subclass 445). Current visa application charge AUD$215.

If however the mother holds a permanent partner visa, then the appropriate visa in those circumstances would be a Child (permanent) Visa (subclass 101). Current visa application charge AUD$1995.   

As for standard processing times, DIAC are currently advising 14 months (either subclass 445 or 101). However, it is advisable to check with the Australian Embassy, Bangkok for more accurate time frames.

What is the Visa Charge for the under 12 year old child of a Thai spouse who has already been granted PR, thus applying for PR as well to join the mother?

Is this charge able to be paid on-shore or off-shore in the same way as has been described above, and would the processing times be in keeping with the new much extended times on average.

Hi FIshhooks,

Do you mean full permanent residency or still on the temporary partner visa. Just confirm whether in fact full permanent residency has in fact been granted.

Good question Wazzi,

De-facto requires at least 12 months of living together in the same household without any significant period of separation.

You may want to look at a prospective marriage visa (subclass 300).

An interesting article in today's Sun Herald. Whilst not specifically Thai related, it is particularly relevant to this forum.

I have posted previously on the issues raised in this article, and that is the importance of evidencing that a genuine and continuing spousal relationship exists when applying for an Australian partner visa. A marriage alone is not enough proof.

Anyone applying for a partner visa should be familiar with Regulation 1.15A of the Migration Regulation 1994 that provide for the circumstances to be taken into consideration in determining that a genuine relationship exists. 

Visa Row Keeps Couple Apart

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/visa-row-keeps-couple-apart-20110716-1hiw0.html

I helped my Lady put her Fiancee' visa application in on 14/2/11-it was very comprehensive.

We didn't know about the 7th of Feb changes, which came with no warning to us, pity if we did know at the time we could of beaten that "date".

I got on to my graceful local member Mr.Swan after 3 months after the application was received and we had heard nothing from them and rattled his staffers cages about DIAC and the Bangkok Embassy website's inconsistencies.

My Lady did her interview 2 weeks ago said it was all good.

I was asked for an additional tax notice for the application which I was still awaiting for it to be sent to me from the ATO and in any case I had a letter from my employer, which if you read the prospective visa check list ask for either 2 tax notices "or" a letter from employer- I thought I had done more then required.

How long after her interview and extra documentation requested from the case officer is received should my Fiancee' expect to get her visa?

Damo'

Hopefully within a month of the interview taking place. I take it medicals have been done.

Get the additional requested info to the case officer ASAP as no decision will be made until that is provided.

Good Luck

Robbo,

Not impossible, but a VERY complicated and expensive process. The financial requirements for this visa are high, and given her age, there are other very strict requirements.

Student Visa (subclass 571)

wow, you sure she wasnt a bar girl?

I'm 100% sure she is not a bargirl and never was.

Sorry, and of course you were a 100% certain it was really her brother too.

wow, you sure she wasnt a bar girl?

I'm 100% sure she is not a bargirl and never was.

Still a lying whore nonetheless. Can you label a girl anything else that does this. What is they saying. If the shoe fits.

At least you found out now.

A few furphy's been flying around here.

There is no prescribed limit on the number of tourist visas issued to an individual applicant, Immigration reserves the right to limit the amount, this is done on an individual case by case basis.

The 676 visa is for the purpose of tourism and visiting friends and families. That means visiting the Aussie boyfriend is a legitimate reason for getting the visa.

There are no restrictions on the length of time spent in Oz on a 12 month multi entry aside from each stay cannot exceed 3 months.

You dont have to get married within 12/9 months on a Partner/de facto/spouse visa. However on a Prospective spouse visa you must marry within 9 months from the date of grant.

Unless the applicant for a tourist visa has been told that they will not receive a further visa, then an application maybe lodged. If the Embassy have stated that a further tourist visa will not be issued, then a different visa should be applied for. Having said that, each case is different and applications are processed on their own merits, it is not always a cut and dried situation.

A partner visa (sublclass 309) is for applicants who are either legally married or in a de-facto relationship with an Australian citizen or permanent resident. In this context "partner" means both legally married or de-facto.

A prospective marriage visa (subclass 300) is for applicants who are engaged to be married to an Australian citizen or Australian permanent resident and have a genuine intention to marry in the future. Once this visa is granted, the applicant must (within 9 months) enter Australia prior to marrying, and then marry within the visa validity period. Failure to marry is breach of a condition of this visa, furthermore this visa cannot be extended. 

After the holder of the prospective marriage visa marrys their sponsor, they are then eligible to apply for an onshore partner visa.

Then I am getting confused between Partner/de facto/spouse visa and the Prospective Spouse visa so i must go back to the immigration visa site and have another look . But it also appears that the Visa application section in Bangkok could spread a bit of misinformation . My gf tells me that the woman who rang her to tell she has the visa also told her she should be using the spouse visa next time and we have to get married which is fine with me except i need to go thru the Thai process of getting divorced in Thailand. She also told her that if she re-applies for tourist visa then she can only do that after spending considerable time in Thailand before re-applying. She has been told this a couple of times from the Visa section. Obviously i need to confirm this from immigration here in Oz as the visa section and possibly my gf are misunderstanding the situation .

My apologies to the OP for any hijacking of his thread.

Have you been to the Spirit House opposite Viangbua Mansion.

As I said before I don't think there is any rule that limits tourists visas to three and it seems the info you are getting is not directly from the embassy.

I remember another poster here who had gotten 8 tourists visas for his partner and as I said before my girlfriend is on her fourth.

It all depends on individual circumstace i guess.

Tolley,

You are right. There is no rule that says how many tourist visas a person is limited to. Ultimately it comes down to whether the person is still considered to be intending to visit Australia as a genuine visitor only, as prescribed by the Migration Regulations 1994. Where a problem typically arises is where multiple tourist visas have been applied for in a time frame that suggest that the applicant is attempting to obtain de-facto residence through the use of multiple tourist visas.

As you point out Tolley it all depends on the individual circumstances.

Bridge

Hi all,

thanks for yhe comments but my wife and son were here in oz with me for 3mths on a tr visa,with the obligatory stamp of no further stay

so i did the right thing and sent them back to LOS before there time ran out.

As i do not really want to upset the apple cart as it were.

So i have done the visitor visa thing and now we will be apart until i can save enough money to go back to los and apply for the spouse visa

i no many of you have gone through the same thing as i am about too, guess i will just have to wait like everybody else which will not be easy

but thats life in Thailand and obviously oz as well when dealing with the goverment.

thanks again

scotto..

All the best Scotto.

So gburns57au

has the answers to this if i calm down well i am calm now but still annoyed!!!

yet you would not share with the rest of us your secret to beating the system in 6 months?

How is this so? when the department states 12- 13 months?

I remember you giving me advise in an earlier post regarding citizenship for my son

which i do appreciate however being seperated from both my wife and son is very hard as you would no

as you are married to a thai !

I do not understand your thinking on this particuliar subject as ,if i was in your shoes knowing something that could

help many fellow aussies i would gladly share this info maybe a little compassion towards fellow aussies?

regards

scotto

It is not a secret and a few people are doing it now. I cant advise on how to circumnavigate the Immigration process as that would be illegal. Bridge as a Registered agent could be more specific than I.

In my opinion it would ease your stress levels to have them here while applying for the spouse visa, there is a way to do that if they get the right condition or actually a lack of a condition on a particular visa. It will cost you a bit more in the long run and wont really affect the processing time but at least you will be with them.

Graham, You've got me. I am even not sure what you are talking about. Is there something I am missing.

Bridge

G'day Bridge

It's got me confused as well.

For a start, it's not illegal to circumnavigate any government process IMHO opinion.

Make the system work for you. But if Graham thinks it is illegal, why does he think

you could be any more specific?

Reading between the lines, it seems as if he may be talking about applying onshore

without the 8503 condition which there is no problem with. Although maybe he's talking

about trying to get the 8503 lifted which ain't easy. Either way it's vague.

Secondly, although I can sympathise with scotto's situation about the long waiting

times, it's not just Thailand, it's all "high risk" countries. It's not just a Thailand thing.

Scotto, you can apply for visitor visa's in the meantime but obviously it get's expensive

doing it that way.

Also, I don't believe for a second his comment about someone from the USA getting

a partner visa in 5 days.

Reagrds

Will

Will,

Agree with you.

If onshore and you don't have 8503, then you can lodge an onshore application - nothing wrong with that.

The standard processing times are the same across all high risk posts not just LOS.

Obtaining an 8503 waiver is no easy task. The Migration Regulations 1994 (Reg 2.05) provide the circumstances in which a waiver may be granted: "since the person was granted the visa that was subject to the condition, compelling and compassionate circumstances have developed over which the person had no control and that resulted in a major change to the person's circumstances". This is no easy hurdle.

Nothing stopping a partner visa applicant applying for a tourist visa during the processing. Will certainly add to the costs.

A partner visa application in 5 days - NO WAY. More likely scenario was onshore partner visa application lodged whereby applicant went straight on to a Bridging Visa.

You don't need a letter from VFS for a Thai clearance. My wife did hers in April. All she had was her passport and family book.

They took the photos and fingerprints in the police rooms.

Is hit and miss. Have known of people asked to get one.

So gburns57au

has the answers to this if i calm down well i am calm now but still annoyed!!!

yet you would not share with the rest of us your secret to beating the system in 6 months?

How is this so? when the department states 12- 13 months?

I remember you giving me advise in an earlier post regarding citizenship for my son

which i do appreciate however being seperated from both my wife and son is very hard as you would no

as you are married to a thai !

I do not understand your thinking on this particuliar subject as ,if i was in your shoes knowing something that could

help many fellow aussies i would gladly share this info maybe a little compassion towards fellow aussies?

regards

scotto

It is not a secret and a few people are doing it now. I cant advise on how to circumnavigate the Immigration process as that would be illegal. Bridge as a Registered agent could be more specific than I.

In my opinion it would ease your stress levels to have them here while applying for the spouse visa, there is a way to do that if they get the right condition or actually a lack of a condition on a particular visa. It will cost you a bit more in the long run and wont really affect the processing time but at least you will be with them.

Graham, You've got me. I am even not sure what you are talking about. Is there something I am missing.

Bridge

You don't renew a tourist visa. Every application is a fresh application.

Read Post # 9 for some info on this topic:

You have obviously known her for a sufficient period of time so that DIAC can attach weight to a letter of support you provide with your GF's application.

The questions is however, can you show that you have the ability to in fact provide the support offered? What is your current financial situation, living arrangements etc.

Financial situation good,when submitting documents group certificates,pay slips are originals required.

Originals not required for a tourist visa submitted to Australian Embassy, Bangkok. Payslips are only relevant if currently employed. Submit a bank balance too if you have savings.

Good Luck

Bridge

You have obviously known her for a sufficient period of time so that DIAC can attach weight to a letter of support you provide with your GF's application.

The questions is however, can you show that you have the ability to in fact provide the support offered? What is your current financial situation, living arrangements etc.

It is always wise to check that you have the most up-to-date application form for whatever visa you are applying for. The DIAC website always has the up-to-date version available for downloading.

Where some people get caught is when they download a form and spend some time filling it out. This is especially in the case of a partner visa which requires lengthy application preparation.

Note that from the 07/11 the Partner visa application (47SP) and sponsor (40SP) forms were updated. If you downloaded these forms before this date, then they are out of date. If you submit an out of date form it wont be accepted and that is a real pain in the a**e if you suddenly find yourself having to fill in new form/s and get signatures etc. Especially given that they are lengthy forms.

The find out what version of the form you have, on every page of an application form in the bottom right hand corner it will have a design date. The current design date for the 47SP and 40SP is 07/11.

The current form for the tourist visa application (subclass 676) Form 48R is design date 11/10.

Bridge