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My Non Imm O visa expires on March 5th and I was refused an extension by Immigration Office already one time a month ago because my application came too early.

As I still travel a lot I get now worried :

- I arrived BKK to-day 28 February and I got my last 3 month entry stamp in the passport for this visa.

- next Sunday 7 March I have to leave the Kingdom again for two weeks.

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Does somebody know how many days it takes average to get 365 extension for Non Imm O visa + multiple entry?

My papers have been scrutinised are already approved by the Immigration Office.

To-morrow March 1st the Immigration Office will closed

Since many years I am holder on EU passport of a Non Imm O visa multiple entry, based on support to my Thai wife

My actual still valid Non Imm O visa expires on March 5th 2010

To-day 8 February I went for the first time to Immigration Office to request an extension of 365 days of this Non Imm O visa + multiple entry visa (all based on marriage to Thai wife)

Immigration Office noticed that all documents (marriage certificate, proof of money, etc..) are OK but they refused to accept the application because it was too early.

Indeed they told me that I need to apply about one month before last day of entry given at airport :

I landed from Dhaka on January 8th where I got a stamp for 3 months until April 7th.

So they advised me to come back early March.

However this month I travel to Jakarta mid February and to Saigon 27 and 28 February : according what they told I will get three months entry as long as my Non Imm O visa is valid. I am very surprised that date chops in a passport with permission to stay 3 months can even be given on March 4th the day before expiry...OK they are they should know better than me.

So after my return from Saigon on 28 Feb I should obtain at the airport a chop allowing to stay another 3 months until end of May????

However I am already planning a trip to Chennai 15 March and then what will happen upon my return? (Other trips are planned in the region early April)?

a) my non Imm O visa will have expired

what kind of entry visa will I get after 15 March : a chop for one month given to all EU passport allowing to stay 30 days until mid April, contradicting my earlier permission to stay until end of May????

c) if then I go to Kuala Lumpur on April 9th I could get again a chop for one month etc etc...

What I am afraid of is to end in a catch 22 situation : that for instance when I try to apply for extension of Non Imm O visa - let us say in May - the Immigration will say : "ho you are too late because the Non Imm O expired already on March 5"

Does anybody have experience with this?

Thanks

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Here's the link to the wikipedia page on Thai passports and countries, but I do not know how up to date this is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_passport

According to this list, anyone with a Thai passport is required to have a visa to visit Vietnam?

My Thai wife travels to Vietnam without a need for a visa and this as recent as 3 weeks ago (she also travels without a visa to other ASEAN member states such Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia and Brunei but she has never travelled to Myanmar or Laos so those two countries we cannot confirm)

To-day I went with my Thai wife for the first time to apply for an extension with 365 days of my Non Immigrant O visa based on marriage to a Thai wife at Pathum Thani immigration office.

Our documents were found to be OK.

The atmosphere was friendly and relaxed

I want to share with this forum two informations and I have one question :

a) we were requested to come back and make the application until there were less than 30 days left of my last and still valid Non Imm O visa (to-day this one year visa has still about 45 days left)

as it was the first time I applied for an extension based on marriage and as we have no children, we will need two witnesses to co-sign the application (but only for the first time application). I have never read about such requirement in this forum and so this information could be useful for others.

Question (which I forgot to ask the Immigration officer) :

The application form TM.7 mentions a fee of 1900 Baht but does not indicate how many entries are allowed.

Will I again - as with Non Imm O for 365 days - need to leave the country at least every three months or are another regulations applicable.

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You need to clarify what kind of visa you had and you want.

If you came with a tourist visa single entry then indeed it is used and dead at the moment you enter.

Later on you indicate to apply for one year visa : this is no longer a tourist visa but a Non Immigrant Visa for which you have different types but for which you require to explain what you are going to do in Thailand if you have the money resources to do so.

The Embassy of the Netherlands is the only reliable source of information.

However experience learns that if your wife got already a UK visa in her passport it will facilitate the decision making to get a Schengen visa because the required documentation (confirmed airplane tickets, proof of funds, the kind of passport the husband is holding, etc...) is basically the same.

Is it possible to obtain an extension of non immigrant O visa, based on marriage abroad (with translation and legalisation of Foreign marriage certificate) or should marriage be registered in Thailand first?

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If it is legal to have double nationality (Thai and UK) which I think it is, then this person should enter Thailand on her old Thai passport and take a house registration.

Indeed an expired or damaged Thai passport does not have an impact on her status of being a Thai national.

I recommend she applies for a new Thai passport at the Foreign Ministry and again I see no reason why the delivery of a new passport would be take more than the ususal waiting time (few days).

If then later she wants to travel to countries which require a visa for a Thai national but not for a UK national then she should show at check-in her UK passport to the airline staff to explain she requires no visa.

At Immigration desk she should simply go in the line of Thai nationals.

Now one Thai friend says that at the Immigration desk they may question why she has no visa for the destination indicated on the boarding pass : I cannot imagine why Thai Immigration would be worried about her rights to enter another country.......

There seems to be confusion about "registration" and "legalisation" of the marriage certificate (or any other foreign document needed under Thai Law)

Legalisation means that a competent authority certifies that a signature on that document is authentic and gives no opinion about what is written in the document although the authority can refuse to certify a signature on a document which has objectionable content.

First you get of course a copy of the marriage certificate from the city hall in the country where the marriage was registered (Or still have a copy of the old certificate) and get is legalised by the "legal department" of the Foreign Ministry in the home country.

I read that some documents made in countries where English is the official language are directly acceptable but normally you get it translated in Thai language by a person or company which will be recommended as acceptable by the Thai Embassy or Consulate in the home country.

Then you get it legalised at the Thai Embassy in the home country (the Thai consul has a copy of the signature of the person in charge at the local Foreign Ministry and also the signature of the translator)

Next the document has still to be legalised at the Foreign Ministry in Thailand (where the legal department has copies of the signatures of all Thai consuls worldwide which are empowered to legalise documents)

Now this your document is ready to be used under Thai Law: in this case irrefutable evidence that a marriage took place abroad.

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What if you are already in Thailand and you have a copy of your marriage certificate.

You ask your embassy who are their authorised persons or companies to translate it into Thai language.

You ask you consul to legalise the signature of the translator

You go the to Foreign Ministry legal department where the signature of your consul will legalised.

Now again this document is ready under Thai Law

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In 1969 I married in a Belgian town a Thai woman and we got from the registrar of marriages a document to certify we were indeed married.

Now if I want to get for the first time an extension of my Non Immigrant O visa as husband of a Thai wife I will need to proof that we are married.

Can we get the translation into Thai language done in Thailand?

This seems to be the easiest way because a translation in Belgium will have to undergo a long process of legalisation before it is acceptable under Thai Law.

We never declared our marriage in Thailand : could we simply get married once more under Thai Law?

I am a 65 year old EU citizen married 20 years to a Thai lady and holder since 15 years of Non Immigrant Visa O

Based on this I can settle with my wife in Thailand : I understand I need a one year "extension" with obligation to report every 90 days to Immigration Office of my region.

There is a good explanation of what to do

http://www.thaivisa.com/323.0.html

....except that my income will be not be from work but from a pension.

- I understand that if I apply as "retired" I will need prove of income 65K+ a month or 800K+ in the bank next to other documents (I can fullfil those conditions)

- I understand also that if I apply "Supporting a family" I will need prove of income 40K+ a month or 400K+ in the bank next to other documents (I can fullfil those conditions too)

a) Which kind of application form (TM9?) will I need to fill in to get residence permit for "Supporting a family"?

Which kind of words will I need to use : I guess if I fill in "retired" that I will automatically be put in the category "retired" and that is what I want to avoid.

I understand all the other regulations about marriage certificate, translation, etc...

Just in case...

Nobody of the forum members with another nationality should make conclusions based on this discussion.

I have a friend who is unfortunate enough to have a passport which needs in most countries also a visa to be a few hours in transit (staying in the international departure hall to take a connecting flight without going through any passport check).

The people at check-in desk of any airline know this and would not let him on board without a visa.

The only reliable source of information is the nearest embassy or consulate of the country where you plan to put your foot on the ground (eventually also airline offices).

There is confusion about the amount of money :

The original question by RonThailand assumes 800.000 Baht in the bank

Peterpop writes : 400.000 in the bank or 40.000 a month

Do the experts agree that the amounts as written by Peterpop are correct?

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Next time you go to the Embassy take first a good quality color photocopy of your passport and eventually the entry card in Thailand or the page with your Thai visa.

This way you have at least some evidence that you have a valid passport and that you were staying in Thailand respecting the local regulations.

In fact I always keep a scan of all my essential document (passport, driving licence, credit cards) on my hard disk.

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I do not know how many years I visited Thailand with a EU passport which upon arrival got automatically a stamp in the passport authorising a stay of 3 months : this was the rule at least from the early 1980ies until mid 1990 ies. To re-instate this would be more simple because in large countries potential tourists sometimes live many hundred kilometers from the closest Thai Embassy or Consulate.

- as normal debts are civil law disputes in the UK, they have no influence on Thai decision making about visa because the Thai authorities are not interested except if you would have a visa such as Non Immigrant O to support Thai wife or child to be issued in a Thai Embassy or Consulate in the UK and based on proven income in the UK. If debt collector would contact Thai consular officer - which I doubt strongly - then the officer will have a harder look at your financial means from other sources than UK to support visa.

- Thai authorities will look at criminal offences - which include debts made in a fraudulous way - but then the evidence provided by debt collector or bank must be supported by UK criminal court ruling which has to be submitted through diplomatic channels to Thailand.

- one element you have to consider, if you have no asset or no income right now in the UK : may-be one day you will inherit or be entitled to a UK pension and be assured that the debt collector will know this and by that time your small debt may have increased exponentially because of all kind of interests and mainly penalties.

In this case you should consult a UK Consumer Action Group without delay otherwise the debt collector will continue to harrass you to avoid that their claim legally expires.

- if you expect later income in the UK you could for instance propose to the debt collector to pay every month 20 GBP as an initial show of good will and I am sure they will have to accept and then they cannot charge you the strangling penalties (nevertheless consult UK Consumer Action Group)

I am resident and national of a EU country, where I live with my Thai wife since 20 years.

Our marriage is only registered in my home country.

Now as I am going to be 65 year and retire from professional activities in my home country, I would prefer to reside with my wife in Thailand in the future.

Question 1 : I guess that I will need to get translated in Thai language the documents issued by city hall at our EU home town as evidence that we are indeed married since 20 years. Will those translated and certified documents be sufficient or will we need also to register our marriage under Thai Law?

Question 2 : I guess that as an (EU) Alien married to a Thai wife I can take the option to have proof of income 40.000 Baht/month or 400.000 Baht in bank account even if this income is in fact a pension obtained after retirement in my home country. Or do retirees always have the obligation of 65.000 Baht/800.000 Baht whether they are officially married or not to a Thai wife?