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Old Git and 7by7 - Thank you for this. Very clear.

I left Thailand after 12 years to return to the UK so that my daughter would get a British Education. My Thai wife and I then divorced. Our daughter has UK citizenship but my step daughter (who is Thai and now at university in Malaysia) wishes to visit for a 2 week holiday during her spring break. I am prepared to pay for her air fare and all other expenses for her visit.

Could someone please advise me what she needs to do to obtain the necessary entry documentation for the UK. Also how much this will cost, and can I pay from here for her?

Thank you.

I am 58 and I am in the top 10% income bracket of the USA. I am far from a loser. I could buy this forum 10 times over.

Well!!! Helloooo handsome

I think that you two don't really have that much in common, maybe there is also a language barrier? Is that from day one you are together? Or is it new behaviour? You are only talking about her looks, what about her personality? Do you know her a little bit? I mean, do you know what she likes (outside the bedroom) what moves her, what makes her smile, laugh, cry, sad, what gets her excited? Any idea? Find out what she would like to do together with you. Gym? Daily Jogging or other sports? Weekend trips, games, you should find an activity where you both get closer, can exchange thoughts, ideas, dreams... the future... what so ever...You should try to get to learn her better, if she gets the feeling that you have a deeper interest in her than just her just her looks, the sex and that she is Thai... you may see what a change it makes and that she will loose interest in her phone...

Why are you with her, because she is a solid 8 from the outside??? What would you like her to do instead of the mobile addiction (no bedroom stories please) ;-)

Bloody Hell an agony aunt on ThaiVisa. Perhaps he needs a social worker to help him understand Thai working ladies.

The original post is not serious. I think he had little to do and thought he would set the chattering classes on this Forum something to get their teeth into. Most would surely agree its utter nonsense.

Sorry, I'm not going to read all the posts before posting, so apologies if I'm repeating anyone...

Usually I read a lot of intelligent and thoughtful posts on Thai Visa, but it seems that the issue of whether uniforms instill discipline has been easily overshadowed by the issue of how cute the girls look in these uniforms. Sadly, a potentially interesting debate has been killed by the rampaging (or limping) testosterone of most of the commenters.

Call me a kiljoy, but it makes me wonder again why a lot of you are here.

If you have to wonder then you have lived a very sheltered life.

In my case the limping testosterone sometimes raises a gallop when I see these pretty young things in their short skirted uniforms. Whether the uniforms improve their minds, grades I wouldn't know but they certainly improve my quality of life here.

The move came after students protested against the Faculty of Science's insistence on uniforms by producing posters of two students in uniform having sex.

I fail to see the connection here between wearing uniforms and having sex.

You obviously haven't seen how short those skirts can get.

I think they look very nice.

Yes indeed. Also very seductive when they don't wear knickers "as quite a few don't"

Teachers become very distracted when the girls in the front row are so attired.

If this last fact was more widely known I am sure the shortage of teachers would be over in an instant. In fact it would take a very strong minded teacher to remember the subject matter in the face of such distraction. I am no good as I am weak, and besides I would have to get my pacemaker reset.

But, hey, as a bystander with a reset pacemaker I am all in favour of these uniforms. The education sucks anyway but the uniforms..........they are first class.

"Many families, according to Terdsak, are choosing to have only one child because of the increasing cost of intuitions, hospitality and food."

I am fascinated to understand the "cost of intuitions". An intuition is defined as 'to understand something instinctively, without the need for conscious reasoning'; on this basis many of the posts on this forum are intuitive i.e no conscious reasoning involved. It is well known that as alcoholic refreshment is increased so conscious reasoning diminishes, and I suppose intuition takes over, in this case the cost of alcohol is a direct increasing cost of intuition.

Do you think this is what Terdsak meant?

Good idea: legitimise jet ski and scooter scammers by 'opening negotiations'. These bastards shouldn't be given a forum to negotiate, they should be imprisoned.

I agree they could run an operation and wipe the scammers out in a week. Arrest them and charge with "Going equipped to steal/cheat, deceptions and assaults. seize their jet skis (part of going equipped) and all monies and other asset being proceeds of crime. Sell their asset (money into consolidated revenue) imprison them and give lifetime bans from the beach areas. Do this to a couple and a few others might just get the idea that the authorities are serious and bugger off. Definitely cheaper than building courthouses and employing judges to replace police in negotiations.

I like a non confrontational approach, fits in nicely with the culture.

1. Defeatists on here

Never heard so much crap,Ulot moan more than my mum lol.Lets give it a try and see how it goes.I bet some of u who have moaned,drive on the pavement,wrong side of the road,and try to bribe officers

Spot on. Thats the main reason for reading the posts on this forum. I wouldn't miss the collective wisdom dispensed on this forum for anything.

Not quite sure what public sector pay and pensions has got to do with the debate.

I imagine that if the UKBA collected the bond it would kept in an imprest account and would most certainly be ring fenced, they wouldn't be able to use it for day to day operational spending.

The whole thing would be a logistical nightmare, who would hold the bond and where, if the bond was taken when the visa was issued, when would the bond be returned, when the person returned from their two week holiday or when the visa expired.

There would be massive operating costs, embarkation controls may have to be reintroduced, or at least a way of recording that somebody left the UK, managing and returning the bond, appeal processes if the bond was wrongfully withheld, no doubt visa costs would need to go up again.

Not quite sure what public sector pay and pensions has got to do with the debate.

I imagine that if the UKBA collected the bond it would kept in an imprest account and would most certainly be ring fenced, they wouldn't be able to use it for day to day operational spending.

The whole thing would be a logistical nightmare, who would hold the bond and where, if the bond was taken when the visa was issued, when would the bond be returned, when the person returned from their two week holiday or when the visa expired.

There would be massive operating costs, embarkation controls may have to be reintroduced, or at least a way of recording that somebody left the UK, managing and returning the bond, appeal processes if the bond was wrongfully withheld, no doubt visa costs would need to go up again.

I read this post because I am in the process of working out how to get my Thai step daughter a tourist visa to visit the UK for 2 weeks. A few issues arise.

If she is stamped into the UK in her passport but not stamped out will the Thai authorities give her hassle when she arrives back in Thailand?

Will I be investigated by the UKBA in the visa application process?

Can the UKBA introduce a bond to Thai visitors whenever they decide, rather like the Thai immigration's discretionary approach?

Phuket has certainly changed over the last 10 years or so. Back then there were fare fewer cars and houses, the beaches were mercifully devoid of sun loungers, it was safe to walk the streets at night as well as the daytime and it was possible to walk over the hills from the airport to Kata Beach. Now that walk is not possible as there is barbed wire fencing and developments even high up in the hills. The beaches are full of sun lounge pitches where various gangs of locals vie for the 200 baht per lounger per day and for tourists to come to their pitch. In many more areas of Phuket and especially in the very South it is increasingly dangerous, with thieving and assault on the rise. To cap it all the roads are so clogged with traffic you could be in central London or New York. What used to be a 45 minute journey from Rawai to the Airport is now (depending on time of day) anything up to 1 hour 45 minutes - especially if one has to go through the Chalong Circle.

On the cost front if one stayed in a 1 room hovel (Thai style) and ate off the roadside stalls, walked to the beach and spent most of the time on the beach perhaps drinking 2 beers each day the monthly cost would be about 10,000 - 12,000 baht. To live in reasonable comfort say in a small 2 bedroom villa (20,000 baht per month) with electricity, internet and water (5,000 baht per month) and to eat and drink in some of the nicer restaurants and to shop in Villa Mart or TOPS (say on average 1,500 baht per day = 45,000 baht). Total cost of middle of the road living would be about 70,000 baht per month. I know many friends in Phuket who spend much more than this, especially those with wives, girl friends and children at school. Even many friends who are single and rely on the comforts of the entertainment professionals still spend more.

Have not lived in Pattaya but have heard it said that Phuket is the most expensive Province in Thailand.

He said no such thing - that is why we asked. As he now says mother was Thai he should obtain Thai passport for exit/entry to Thailand and just use the UK passport for proof of not needing visa at exit and entry/exit of UK. Suspect she will be wanting to travel and perhaps live in both locations during her life and that is the best plan.

Should he use the child's Thai passport to exit the country will he need to obtain a UK visa for the Thai passport?

He said no such thing - that is why we asked. As he now says mother was Thai he should obtain Thai passport for exit/entry to Thailand and just use the UK passport for proof of not needing visa at exit and entry/exit of UK. Suspect she will be wanting to travel and perhaps live in both locations during her life and that is the best plan.

Should he use the child's Thai passport to exit the country will he need to obtain a UK visa for the Thai passport?

This is not correct. Lopburi is completely correct and his advice is sound.

I have been through this exact scenario. I got my daughter a Thai passport in Bangkok; a painless exercise very efficient and took about 45 minutes. Will need birth certificate. The UK embassy issued my daughter with a UK birth certificate and a UK passport. When leaving Thailand I needed a letter from her mother (in Thai) stating that I had her permission to take the child out of the country. When I was eventually divorced I had the divorce paper to show that I had sole custody of the child. (You would need the death certificate). On entering the UK on her UK passport there was no problem at all when she was a baby, but at about 5 years old she was asked by the immigration person who I was. Her answer "my daddy" was followed by a request for my name, which she also gave. This has even happened again recently at age 10.

There really is no problem here. So long as all is above board both sets of immigration officials are trying to make sure that the child is not being used illegally in any way - child protection which I approve. With all the right papers and the correct explanations all will be OK if a little slow at first.

The widespread stench of corruption that taints this country will continue unabated. Too many unethical and immoral people with their fingers in the pies and too much to lose.

Even the BiB (DSI) wouldn't dare to be seen driving around in Farraris - surely?

Granted, this isn't much of a story, but let's try to stay on the topic .

Ha Ha easy day today, a bit of 'froggie' bashing instead of the usual. Makes a change.

Good thing there's video evidence so that this can't be denied. To protect, and serve (their own interests). This is ultimately why I left Thailand. Beautiful country but you can't raise a family in a place where you can't expect the police to put the safety of others first, especially when the proper course of action is so obvious. RIP to the injured and now deceased man.

Absolute rubbish! If you are sensible and make sensible decisions regarding your family, then this is a great country to raise a family. There's obviously another reason you left Thailand, but will blame it on these kinds of things.

It happens in every country in the world, even yours mate!

Kayahammer, it would be sensible, every now and again, to take your head from the dark place it clearly is and have a look at the sunlight. "Sensible" and corruption in all its guises are not compatible bedfellows. As a matter of fact the incident that originated this thread does not happen anywhere else in the world that I have visited or worked. This includes, USA, Central and West Africa, Middle East, China, Philippines, Australia.

This is ultimately why I left Thailand. Beautiful country but you can't raise a family in a place where you can't expect the police to put the safety of others first, especially when the proper course of action is so obvious.

Think I'm headed that way... gets tiring after many years. One would like to read they ignored the jerk off and saved someone's life, but the reality is, if they had have proceeded, there is every chance it would have drawn its pistol!

I also left this beautiful country to bring up my young child in a civilised and law abiding environment. All the beautiful attributes of Thailand (beautiful, beaches, food, people etc) cannot overcome the disastrous effect of generalised corruption on a growing and developing child. When corruption and unthinking insensitivity are displayed then it really is time to move on.

Nothing new here. Normal romantic business practice in Thailand. Odds on that whilst he is in Hadyai progressing his case he will fall for the charms of another little beauty. As they say "no money, no honey" but also "plenty of money, lots of honey" if you can handle it all.

Dengue is primarily carried by the female Anopheles Aedes Aegypti. It's the fastest growing arbovirus (arthopod borne virus) on the planet.

There is an incubation period following the bite of a Dengeue-carrying mosquito during which most people will be asymptomatic.

When the virus "blooms," the typical experience, like mine several years ago, is to feel suddenly "deathly" ill, and weak, and to have high-fever.

There are four strains of Dengue, and, while there is some debate about whether cross-immunization can occur, the majority opinion is that having one strain does not mean you can't get another.

There is no "treatment" for Dengue in the "curative" sense of that word: treatment is palliative, and symptomatic.

The great danger is that your red blood platelet count will go so low that your blood becomes so thin that it can perfuse into your lungs, or eyes. This very dangerous, potentially fatal, possible stage of Dengue is referred to as "hemorrhagic dengue fever." If a person has this stage of Dengue, they may require blood transfusions in order to survive. Or, your blood-pressure may fall to such a low-level that you will experience possibly fatal "Dengue shock syndrome."

The good news is that if Dengue hasn't killed you by about the seventh day after symptoms appear, you will, likely, survive.

I did not have to go into the hospital, but some people will need to be hospitalized, even if they are not in the hemorrhagic state.

The important thing is to get your red-blood platelet count monitored as frequently as you doctors advise.

And, Dengue can be more fatal to young children, and elderly, people, as well as those with weakened immune systems, cancer survivors, etc.

It took me about six-weeks to fully recover from Dengue. I had IV re-hydration, out-patient, during the high-fever period, twice.

The old British Colonial name for Dengue was "breakbone fever;" I did not have joint-pain symptoms specifically, for which I am thankful.

Here's to your health, and I'm hoping you never experience Dengue !

If you, or any family member, do suddenly go into a weak, and feverish, state, I hope you go to a good doctor immediately !

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A factually correct and therefore very useful and informative post. What a refreshing change.

Hang him he is the biggest pompous A$$ in sports today. He says he is GOD and directs F1 like it is his own doing.

If you've got it flaunt it - I say. He has a tasty daughter as well who flaunts it a bit. Good luck to them both.

Nice one Germany !!

Thailand could be in for a bit of the cake if he tries to get the F1 to BKK. He's sure to be accused by a local 'Lady' or three!!! A walking golden goose - albeit a very old and worn out one.

Had sex with the promise of marriage, the guy broke his word?

Might as well lock up about 99.9% of the male population if breaking a promise is a crime.

Ha! Ha! We farang are learning the lessons taught to us by those charming, honest, thoughtful, truthful, loyal Thai ladies we have met, believed and fallen for. Mind you he wasn't after the pick of the crop at 38.

Plenty of room for official business here. Bet there are many applications to join the department responsible for checking these certificates, tea money should be considerable.

"The woman denied the charge and reserved her rights to speak only in court". She probably suffers from a sore throat from all that quarrelling.

Sounds like suicide to me.