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firestar

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  1. You may want to do a little research into who Sondhi claims tried to kill him if you think th emilitary and the PAD are good buddies.

    By the way, how does what the yellows do excuse red violence? Two wrongs dont make a right. Surely both groups deserve to be condemned for their excesses.

    Both groups should be condemned. We agree.

    Which is why the moral high ground displayed by a government whose Foreign Minister said on the record that the occupation of Suvarnabhumi was "good fun" is laughable.

  2. Maybe if as soon as they protest the Red Shirts weren't met by government faction sponsored "Blue shirts" or fake "Sala daeng Residents" armed with talkie walkies, metal bars and guns that charge at them it wouldn't degenerate into violence.

    That's my neighborhood, and I saw it first-hand. When you close off a huge city's largest traffic hub, isolate residents, and close down businesses in the area for 4 days, I think it's justified for the police or the army to do something about it. I think we all wish they had done something about it sooner.

    I talked to a city bus driver who was hijacked, I saw how they barricaded my entire main street and Victory Circle, destroyed public property, set fire to the buses. Then when law enforcement showed up, they somehow had gas bombs and molotov cocktails ready to go. You do the math, does it sound like a peaceful demonstration?

    Didn't the yellow shirts close THE WHOLE COUNTRY for much longer?

    What kind of violence would we have seen if the army tried to remove them from goverment House or Suvarnabhumi airport? Do you not think they also had gas bombs and molotov cocktails ready?

    Easy to stay "peaceful" when the army is on your side, cheering you on.

  3. Is Thailand still advertising itself as a democracy? What a joke. But the idea that the cronies who run Thailand have anything to do with democratic rule has always been laughable.

    Agreed, it isn't a real democracy here. However, surrendering to a red mob who want to install a latter day Thai Mussolini is another step in the wrong direction.

    A Thai Mussolini?

    No, of course not.

    Mr. T. is the Thai equivalent of Berlusconi, more or less.

    Or the other way around.

    Both are stinking rich and think they are above the law.

    Both have not a democratic microbe in them, only the wish for unchecked power.

    Both will do nearly anything to hold on to that power, or to get it (back).

    Mussolini believed the poor southern Italians were too poor and uneducated to know their own good, they needed an Elite to rule them.

    Please tell what is the difference with the current Thai way of thinking?

    I don't think Thaksin is the solution but between a Mussolini and a Berlusconi I know which one I would choose.

  4. The irony runs thick in this thread.

    Maybe if as soon as they protest the Red Shirts weren't met by government faction sponsored "Blue shirts" or fake "Sala daeng Residents" armed with talkie walkies, metal bars and guns that charge at them it wouldn't degenerate into violence.

    Also amusing to see that those who supported a group who stormed an international airport and found it "good fun" are so outraged at a broken hotel door ::2 cents::

    And ofcourse you have evidence that it was indeed 'fake Sala Daeng Residents' [sic] (amazingly nothing of this took place close to Sala Daeng, so...) that stormed any 'peaceful protesters' and ended up having two of the 'fakes' shot dead by the 'peaceful'?

    Nowhere did I say that if provoked the Red Shirts wouldn't react violently, there is violence on both sides.

    Some Blue Shirts were recognized as PAD guards from the Government House occupation. Others Blue Shirts later told that they were Navy personnel from Satthahip. (many pics of them armed or driving into town at the back of pick-ups full of wooden clubs)

    Other anti red shirts that mingled amongst army personnel called themselves the “Glum Rak Pandin Goed” (The Group that Loves their Land of Birth). Most of them had problems remembering their own name when asked.

    Yet according to The Nation and Government Media, it was spontaneously that local residents fed up with the whole few days of disturbance in Bangkok took arms against the protesters. Yeah riiiiiight.

    Thanks for picking up the typo though you know I meant ding daeng.

  5. The irony runs thick in this thread.

    Maybe if as soon as they protest the Red Shirts weren't met by government faction sponsored "Blue shirts" or fake "Sala daeng Residents" armed with talkie walkies, metal bars and guns that charge at them it wouldn't degenerate into violence.

    Also amusing to see that those who supported a group who stormed an international airport and found it "good fun" are so outraged at a broken hotel door ::2 cents::

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