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“It was still packed when the fire broke out [at 4am],” he said.

Must be a typo. The law say close at 2am.

The law says stop serving at 2am people can stay inside though. (of course it probably isn't what happened but that's what they will argue)

So funny that the owner of this board is telling you that Yahoo and Hotmail are not reliable but that many of you are still trying to explain that they are...

Don't you think that this guy knows exactly what he is doing and certainly better than you?

And then do you think that he would take such a decision that could affect his business if Yahoo and Hotmail were perfectly reiable as you are telling ?

Incredible !!! But you are all certainly right and few of us must be wrong ! I know...

The owner of this site isn't saying they aren't reliable, only that his bulk emails aren't going through. (FYI most people don't want to receive bulk mail).

Why does the owner know better, because he runs a successful website? Didn't you just say that yahoo and hotmail were the biggest email services yet the worst ? so when it suits you the biggest knows best when it doesn't it's the opposite...way to contradict yourself.

Yahoo or hotmail will do a job for most people, then again looking at your "Gmail rules" post I guess you're a fanboi, there is no convincing those.

I am not usually a conspiracy theorist but here I can't help but go...hmmmm.

First his sister's comment on CityLife, then the poor English but most of all, how was he destitute? His website might look like something from 1998 but it alone is enough to comfortably live on, and if he couldn't monetize it I am sure he was at least aware an aged website with traffic is worth very good money to the right person.

Indeed. However that particular page does not come up in a Google search, because it isn't linked to from anywhere.

It comes up when I search. It's the 3rd result.

It comes up because it is now being linked to from multiple sources.

Google is very quick to update these days.

Your budget would be ok if you wanted to wing it here for a couple years. Longer term it isn't viable.

It must have been the brother turned husband. I always wonder, while there are so many lovely girls in Thailand, the average white-nose always seem to think that they are still back in Stockholm, Brussels or London where you only find one suitable lady.

Errrr.. did you bother reading the article? They met in Sweden.

The perception of Love or Jealousy makes many lose all common sense.....

True but they are 18 and met in Sweden, sound like a "regular" relationship, maybe things have changes since i was 18 but I remember relationships being fleeting.

I doubt many of us who are against Thaksin are pointing our fingers and calling the other people "non-elite" or whatever you might call the opposite of elite.

Again, ask yourself what you might consider elite and if Thaksin isn't one.

I thought by saying "two rival oligarchies" I made it pretty clear this included Thaksin.

If you ask me, I'd like Chuan Leekpai to be back on the PM's seat but he along with other Democrats chose Abhisit to lead. So who else do we have?

Fair enough. Personally I'd be hard pressed to choose a PM even under the "lesser evil" principle.

i can't believe people would argue against the difference in military attitude towards each protest group.

Just as how some people can't believe that there are those who defend Thaksin and this push for faux democracy.

It is a battle between two rival oligarchies, at the risk of repeating myself no one is condoning Thaksin, but why blindly follow a rival elite jockeying for position under pretext of "fighting thaksin"?

So what do you think is the reason the military rolled out? And I hate to bring this into an off topic discussion.

That's the whole debate.

Why when the protest was still peaceful did hundred of soldiers advance on protester camps near Phan Fah bridge and Ratchadamnoen road, but allowed PAD supporters to occupy Government House or make their way to Suvarnabhumi?

The military reacted to the Red Shirts.

Pad guards, the Srivichai Warriors, were armed when they stormed NBT the public television. The military didn't react then.

I don't think anyone is condoning the red shirts to be honest, only highlighting the fact there is two sides to every story.

On the other hand money can by a lot of people. Look at some of the lawyers from the western world Thaksin has bought.

The fortune of those who back the Democrats dwarf Thaksins, only they are smart enough to use a proxy to do their politics.

(so there is no misunderstanding I am referring to the private sector only)

I admit I am not the sharpest tool in the shed

This we can agree on

My My clever aren't we cut and paste.

Beats facing reality dosen't it.

I am not talking about the private sector. I am talking about Thaksin the De Facto PM and the people his money will buy. I made no accusations why so defensive?

Were did I cut and paste anything? I just split your post.

Defensive about what? yes Thaksin has the money to "buy people" (this is an accusation btw) and there is little doubt he did.

On the other hand money can by a lot of people. Look at some of the lawyers from the western world Thaksin has bought.

The fortune of those who back the Democrats dwarf Thaksins, only they are smart enough to use a proxy to do their politics.

(so there is no misunderstanding I am referring to the private sector only)

I admit I am not the sharpest tool in the shed

This we can agree on

And i suppose the difference in military presence and action had nothing to do with that...

pad leaders also used threats of violent action against the government and police.. they left the military out funnily enough.

it's this black and white 'one group is more violent than the other' stance that i find questionable, both groups have violent elements and their actions have been situational.

there's no question that the results of red protests has resulted in more violence than yellow protests, but you have to look at the differences in the situations and ask the hypotheticals to get a fair viewpoint imo.

Balanced post is never going to fly around here...

Well it shows us some thing about your values over 90 dead compared to none dead and you and your like think it is the same thing.

I suppose life is cheap to people like you

See my answer above.

As for "the people like you" comment it says a lot about your own state of mind.

The irony is the completely bias black or white views you always post show you actually have a lot more in common with the Red Shirts than you think :: 2cents::

Violence versus nonviolence?

I am no yellow shirt but given a choice...

PAD had armed forces too the " Srivichai Warriors" it's easier to stay pacifist when the army is cheering you on rather than taking pop shots at you.

not a red shirt either...

When I first visited here there was a lot of pink shirts. Then the Yellow shirts came and it would seem that the pink shirts fell out of favor.

Then the red shirts came and wore shirts the color of the flag while they tried to destroy the nation. Invaded a hospital Publicly urged the citizens to burn Bangkok down cost thousands of people there jobs for a couple of months probably ruined some small business. And to top it all off said they were doing it for democracy. And O yes let us not forget they brought weapons with them. To accomplish these ends.

Maybe Thailand should get a flag that has no red on it. They for sure have disgraced the red in it.

".. the yellow shirts came in and pink fell out of favour" that is it?!? no mention of illegally occupying Goverment House, Closing Parliament or Thrashing an Internaltional Airport?

Haha... love the double standard

"Thrashing an International airport"

Must have been an ordeal

Does it matter?

The point is double standards of many TV posters are amazing.

When I first visited here there was a lot of pink shirts. Then the Yellow shirts came and it would seem that the pink shirts fell out of favor.

Then the red shirts came and wore shirts the color of the flag while they tried to destroy the nation. Invaded a hospital Publicly urged the citizens to burn Bangkok down cost thousands of people there jobs for a couple of months probably ruined some small business. And to top it all off said they were doing it for democracy. And O yes let us not forget they brought weapons with them. To accomplish these ends.

Maybe Thailand should get a flag that has no red on it. They for sure have disgraced the red in it.

".. the yellow shirts came in and pink fell out of favour" that is it?!? no mention of illegally occupying Goverment House, Closing Parliament or Thrashing an Internaltional Airport?

Haha... love the double standard

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http://www.one2car.c...ANGER/B13550007

I gave them a call earlier. both are already sold.

Or the 30% state overspending during Thaksin's time in office, much of it to his family's businesses. Just in my head too.

The only verifiable figure is that debt fell from 57% of GDP in January 2001 to 41% in 2006 under Thaksin.

A figure plucked out of fine air of 30% overspending by Supannee Chai-amporn and her yellow shirt colleagues at NIDA is hardly something that should be taken at face value.

% means nothing it was boom years and the GDP was going up.

To simplify it for you

57% of 1,000 baht is 570 baht.41% of 2,000 baht is 820 baht. So you see where in fact the debt could have gone up rather than down. By the way I have this bridge

% of GDP is nothing when you are balancing a budget I take it you're not a business owner...

Does it make him a good prime minister? no it doesn't. taken in isolation it's of little value. still a better snapshot than the figures Kun Supannee Chai-amporn and her yellow colleagues magically came up with..

Or the 30% state overspending during Thaksin's time in office, much of it to his family's businesses. Just in my head too.

The only verifiable figure is that debt fell from 57% of GDP in January 2001 to 41% in 2006 under Thaksin.

A figure plucked out of fine air of 30% overspending by Supannee Chai-amporn and her yellow shirt colleagues at NIDA is hardly something that should be taken at face value.

But if you think the governments energies are better spent on smearing other politicans over a minor issue like a conscription form, then knock yourself out.

Sure. but when the same absurd tactics were used by the Democrats to try to disqualify PPP members, like a MP's wife having received years back a couple shares in PTT as a Christmas bonus it was met here with cheers of "it's the law' "it's the law"... can you say double standards?

Average retail sales to Chinese consumers are easy to calculate since so many fill VAT back claims.

Their other expenditures like hotels and dinner shows are booked by the tour operators who also share information. Not an exact science but figures like those Nisa quoted for the UK are pretty accurate.