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same day as the two philapinas, fishy info about reasons, unlike the video of the chinese huddled cuffed and telco equipmemt, this hungarian guy was either snitched for no reason or complained about his residence, this large overstay combined with a fugitive doesnt wash, just like the philapinas interpol red notice, its exagerration for scaremongering or to impress, either way the men in green will keep pushing their propaganda through the media

In my mind, no proof just a big hunch, a lot of the information being said last few years on these arrest stories is made up, to impress or scare, whatever the propaganda message, there was a big difference between the arrest of gamblers of china today, looks a normal story, then this story, nothing adds up, red notice for car theft? , maybe they were waiting for work permits and arrested that way, either way the chinese looks to be a real criminal arrest, the phillapinas arrest, looks exagerrated for effect

looks like a whole lot of mix of current different visas, work visa like smart visas, retired people using some things from the present retirement visa, using 5 years like elite visa, add family members and prospects of land ownership, from the latest articles, maybe its slanted to work/business/ future land ownership, can't see many people getting too excited, not bright enough outlook with men in green in charge

as someone else on this thread mentioned the smart visa he is on, is close in some ways to this new proposal, work wise, I would guess it's a mixture of smart and elite visa, with added extra large finance needed for a big 'if' of future land ownership, and why only use elite, could include the retirement visa in uour missive

It is fishy, every one of these articles saying positive runaways, turns out they were negative and just left, they control too much information through the media, just make things up for scare tactics around foreigners

No way, you just being a pro-Beijing troll, or just believe any old Chinese wiki story, many Historians are now starting to even question China's 5000 year history claim, on top of the other fake or made up claims over land. Han China going back 2000 years was mostly tiny in land area, mainly 1300 onwards after gaining Mongolia did it resemble what it does nowdays, after the last 100 years invading Tibet and East Turkistan, even Hmong tribe are older than the Han Chinese, It was the Han that kicked the Hmong off their land

Honestly, some of you think that Elite should, have or could access the immigration database to see when members enter or exit, then when the computers flags an urgent alert, an Elite staffer is dispatched to the members home, make sure said person is out of bed, showered, changed, and a light breakfast, then driven like the wind to the nearest immigration office, so that said Elite member isn't a naughty boy, for missing their extension date It's the immigration police doing the extensions, not Elite, it's our passports and responsibility

No mention on whether the op's friend kept up to date with 90 day reporting, strange story, not convinced, too many in the past, that turned out to be a rouse, and get the attention needed, using the word elite in the title

Not everyone is over 50, so your point on using an agent to extend your stay indefinitely, is just for one age bracket

how on this great earth, can Elite be at fault, they don't control or use the immigration databases, to see if someone entered the country legally and on what date, and what dates for the next extension impossible for Elite to gain access to the immigration database, it would be the only way, that Elite can keep up to date on members extension dates, and remind them, but the immigration are also police, and this regime uses any excuse for National security so unless the regime changes to a fairer one, and allows another ministry to access entry information like that, then that would be the only way Elite could help all the members, and to be honest I wouldn't want sms reminders either, I mean, really intrusive, not for me

The elite visa/extension is done by inmigration, has nothing to do with Elite, we all know this, every time you get an extension it's done by immigration, Elite don't put any stamps or add the info into the computer, immigration are the ones with the incoming and exiting border database, knowing if you entered legally or not, impossible for elite to track clients in the same way. it's just another thread with Elite, and it's like bees around a honey pot, I am 100% certain that was the main reason of the op's thread and title

This is a thread about someone who forgets an extension date, doesn't renew, and immigration clobber him for 12 months not allowed back in, and somehow because the op on purpose is highlighting Elite, then it becomes Elite's problem it's either a fake story, or someone trying to blame anyone but themselves, anything to do with visa/extensions is with the immigration, everything is on me and if I mess up, then it's an immigration problem or for a lawyer to try to solve

Yes, the thread smells of a fake story, the weekly bash elite card thread, if it's true then it's about missing expiry dates in passports, nothing more, I mean why charge 25k when its 20k, why claim that am overstay on elite is different to an overstay on another type of visa/extension, paying for an elite card doesn't mean you pay to control immigration laws, that's just being foolish or fake

The OP should understand, there is no need to leave the country after 12 months on an Elite card, just needs an in-country extension, it no longer is an elite issue, but someone forgetting their extension date expiry to renew, now it's a thai immigration issue with the overstayer, nothing about what visa he holds, if thai immigration stop him for 12 months, what else can he do, elite are not immigration, nothing they can do about thai immigration overstay laws all these kind of threads do are to confuse people, into thinking elite has a magic wand over thai immigration laws, it doesn't, we all accept that, when we use the service, if anything happens on missing expiry dates for extensions, that's on us, no one else, same for any other type of visa/extension people hold

I went there some time ago, and it's to enter the building, it's not only about the inmigration department. You either show proof of the vaccinations or you fill in a form and wait to enter, they had two seperate columns, but I am not sure about the other entry points into the building, seems some doorways are much easier to enter than others in that building, but if entering on the building door near immigration they will check, maybe that could change in the future who knows

I am sure they have statue of limitations or something on those lines, If a case is just left without any conclusion, whatever it is, after a certain number of years, It will finish through bureacracy, 20 years seems too long to be active, but even if on file, the statue of limitations should end it spoiling anything, maybe another poster with more lawyer knowledge could update the thread

yes, if it wasn't for the chinese/thais, all other foreigners would have easier rights to own land and businesses, they have closed the shop door, and made it extremely difficult for any non chinese to own land or a business here

exactly the reason, chinese/thais who started to emigrate en masse 150 years ago are protecting their new invaded country within for motherland, against any competitor nations/cultures. chinese easily became citizens over the 150 years, own land, businesses, become law makers, generals has anyone seen an indian/thai law maker or general? malay/thai general or law maker? cambodian:thai, western/thai, not a chance the chinese and chinese/thais are the reason we don't own land, or make it extremely difficult, they are the ones shouting about treason and using scare tactics all the while they land grabbed bangkok and thonburi last 150 years, from ethnic thais who were mostly vedic, mon going back 2000 years

this is an important reference from the article, every government spokesman mentions the national strategy, it's actually false to say national, they are hiding its true intention Every country signed with china on its 17+ 1 ie belt and road signs either a 20 year or 25 year national strategy, each strategy is connected with the chinese constitution from 2017, over the 20 years more laws are connected between china and thailand. land rights is always what china wants for its people in countries like thailand, you can bet the details in mandarin will be far different in costs , to the details for all other foreign nationals, for this new land and visa programme

You right it's not wise China corrupts the leaders/regime of a country first, then gets the countries to sign up to Belt and road, which becomes law under the Chinese constitution from 2017, it means Thailand, because of this gangster regime will have to abide by some of the same laws The other issue is the 20 year national strategy which is fake, its a chinese/thai national strategy to implement laws under the chinese constitution, every other belt and road country has the same, either 20 year or 25 years, most of the details are secret, just like all the agreements with china China also needs Thailand a lot more than people think, it has large amounts of food it can export, China cannot grow enough food locally for its population, thats a huge security concern for their regime, and it has 20% of the worlds population but only 7% of water to use, and a lot of that is polluted, its a major reason of invading Tibet the other issue China sees Thailand as a colony going back 150 years, 'map of shame' is a map showng countries China feels belong to them, just totally fake logic by China, but dangerous, and chinese companies and workers will still come to invest under the eec, and could gain future land rights and citizenship under the thai/chinese 20 year strategy not a coincedence that the recent articles on new visa and land rights were connected to the 20 year strategy by government officials, no way the chinese will have the same overpriced requirements that we all read for all the other foreigners a lot to consider as a foreigner here now, trains doesn't motivate me to live in a country, much more concerned with the constant collaboration of all society with china, they hate competing cultures like the west, we become competitors to their twisted colonizing

it will only get worse with the chinese/thai 20 year strategy no need to be sucked into it

it's the chinese/thai who have closed the shop door on all other foreigners or mix to own land or have any rights similar to the chinese thais, they are worse than the islamic communities, notice how any land which is privately available in Bangkok is owned by chinese/thais but not malay/thais, not mynamar/thai, and a few indian/thai it's what the chinese do, any competitor races or mix race cultures, they work in the background through their 'influence' which are multitude for this reason, in the halls of power, and make it impossible for other cultures to get their foot in the door

"including industry, services, infrastructure and logistics, in line with the 20-year national strategic plan." there you go, every country alligned with china signs up to 20 or 25 year national strategies and who are mostly winning all the infrastructure and logistics contracts? big surprise China, looks like the eec lands will be turned into little china lands, all under the 20 year national strategy, and anyone locals complaining about land rights to chinese, they will point to these public relations articles, where states only billionaires welcome, only the very elite own land somchai, don't worry every one else will have to jump through thousands of hoops, but who cares, when they been cudling with china for chinas benefit, who return with lots of money for the top tier laundered through the chinese financial system