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9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:
The vaccine mutated therefore the medical advice changed with the corresponding new data:
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-walensky-clips-idUSL1N2PX1IZ
The real lies, the lies that cost lives happened over a year earlier.
Ah, god bless the mutations, the ultimate weapon of political communication.
Right I'm off, this was my quarterly Aseannow stop. I will be back in a few months and will look forward to people's insights on the 5th jab.
Oh and by the way when people need 3 jabs in the space of a year (or 4, the Israeli health minister is already saying a 4th one will be necessary because of the new "mutation"), that's not a vaccine, it's an experimental protocol.
Good luck to everyone.
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8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:
OK, I’ll bite, explain the point you wish to make.
It's straightforward, when authorities impose political restrictions and mandates based on a premise which later turns out to be false (such as CDC Director Dr. Walensky falsely asserting in late March 2021 that vaccinated people don't get Covid, which was then echoed by Fauci and Biden), it is a legitimate cause of concern and it undermines the credibility of the said authorities. How can we believe anything else they say now to justify a 3rd jab? Only for them to turn around in 3 months and say "you know what, we were wrong".
Classic case of "fool me once, not twice".
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33 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:
What else in life do you believe is perfect?
You were lied to, but not by the scientists and medical professionals.
Is Rochelle Walensky not a medical professional?
You don't see a problem with the head of the CDC lying about the protection offered by the vaccine?
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15 hours ago, RichardColeman said:
Personally I think stories of people getting covid after the job - which they will, it was not meant to stop it 100% - is a reason for opening the economy and just living with. Just try and do the best we can, wash hands, wear a mask, vaccinate, isolate the extreme vulnerable if they want it. if not now then when ? If we wait for zero covid infections of vaccinated people the world will be closed for the next 10 years up
No, we were told they would protect us 100% so we were lied to. This English video (with French subtitles) is very interesting as it shows just how the narrative has evolved. Just a bunch of liars who couldnt care less about the wellbeing of mankind, it's about time people woke up to this fact:
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4 hours ago, Phoenix Rising said:I can't be arsed to discuss any more of these nutters. One google search of here revealed more than enough. She's an anti-vaxxer in a world where vaccines have saved countless of millions from death and serious decease.
Enough, trolls be gone!
Well that's the problem isn't it, "can't be arsed", "one Google search", the plague of today's time summarized in six words.
I strongly refute the accusation of being a troll, my opinions are indeed controversial given the political context, but labelling them crazy just because they don't fit with your world view is beyond ridiculous.
I have had my share of debates, some more heated than others, but rarely have I seen such closed-mindedness and hostility than on this platform.
I will leave you with your certainties, and I am not coming back here anytime soon. And before you say "good riddance", let me assure you the feeling is mutual.
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4 hours ago, Phoenix Rising said:
Why? Why should we slow down the global Covid vaccination process just because some doses have been contaminated? If anything it only goes to show that current quality assurance processes are working.
And no, Tenpenny's "theories" aren't borderline "in the sense that it pushes the limits of what we know and accept." It's borderline because it's crazy talk.
You don't know anything about Tenpenny's research and findings, as all you did was watch a 2-minute video taken out of context. Preposterous.
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39 minutes ago, placeholder said:
We don't know who anybody is on this forum because there is no independent way to verify their claims about themselves. But there is plenty of independently verifiable information about this party, including her claim that a minute dose of a vaccine can make someone magnetic. It is to laugh.
Laugh all you want.
Discrediting a competent physician with decades of experience, who deals with vaccinated patients all day-long, based on a 10-second Google search, that would be laughable if the situation wasn't so serious.
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31 minutes ago, placeholder said:
You don't think someone who claims that a miniscule dose of vaccine can magnetize you is nuts?
No, she has enough credentials and compelling arguments to actually raise an eyebrow. Don't have a clue who you are though.
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2 minutes ago, placeholder said:
"Online reports that COVID-19 vaccines contain graphene oxide are unfounded.
The allegations are based on an analysis by a professor in Spain which has been rejected by experts. He obtained what he himself described as non-conclusive results after studying one vial. He said the vial was purported to contain a dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine but said it had come to him by a messenger service and acknowledged that the vial’s origin was unknown."
If you think Reuters is a trustworthy source, then you are right to follow it. We all make our choices based on our free will and appreciation. Good luck to you.
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Just now, placeholder said:
The fact that she has appeared frequently on the show of that renowned scientist, Dr. Oprah Winfrey, and that she has best seller books, should clearly qualify her for a Nobel Prize.
Here is some more about Dr. Christiane Northrup:
"I watched a month-worth of her solo videos to better understand the world in which she lives. In this parallel universe, there are Indigo children, time travellers from the future, and geomancers performing acupuncture on Mother Earth by moving rocks around. She constantly tells her viewers, whom she calls “sleeping lions” and “warriors,” that they need to take action. That is when the supernatural forces of Providence will magically come in and take care of the rest, like the reinforcements who show up at the end of an action film just in the nick of time."
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-critical-thinking/doctor-carl-sagan-warned-us-about
You're completely missing the point, the fact that she regularly appeared on Oprah Winfrey's show means she was part of the establishment. Then she speaks up against Covid vaccines and she becomes a black sheep, that was the point I was making and it is a valid one.
And I have already said that there are countless character assassination articles about these doctors, no need to post them.
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10 minutes ago, placeholder said:
You don't think someone who claims that a miniscule dose of vaccine can magnetize you is nuts?
As for graphene dioxide...
"Yet, there are now claims circulating that the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine is around 99% graphene oxide. This despite the fact that graphene oxide does not appear on either the FDA or CDC list. For example, an Instagram post included the following statement: “99% Graphene Oxide in Pfizer V4X? Spanish scientists obtain vial of Pfizer v4xin3 and find that 98-99%.”
Please, can you share with us a link to the report from these alleged Spanish researchers? Or do they only publish their results via instagram?
Laugh all you want, I am just trying to prevent people from hurting themselves badly. The Spanish study was performed by biostatistician Ricardo Delgado and Dr. José Luis Sevillano.
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Just now, roo860 said:
Appeared on Oprah!
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What I mean is she was as mainstream as one gets.
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2 hours ago, Phoenix Rising said:I thought I should google all the "competent doctors" you listed but checking the first one was more than enough, thank you:
"Sherri J. Tenpenny is an American anti-vaccination activist who supports the disproven hypothesis that vaccines cause autism. She has falsely asserted the vaccines magnetize people and connect them with cellphone towers."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherri_Tenpenny
A question for you; Do you honestly think calling this bunch of loonies "competent" does your credibility any good???
Here is another of the physicians I mentioned, Christiane Northrup, you can't call her incompetent by looking at her CV. She has written several best-selling books and appeared on Oprah, won awards etc.
https://www.drnorthrup.com/about/
From the moment she started questioning the Covid narrative and vaccination (same as Tenpenny, by actually looking at some of the stuff that's in there and what it does to the body), she was immediately dropped, blacklisted, slandered, pressured. Something fishy going on there.
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44 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:
I'm not saying they're crazy because Wikipedia is saying it. I'm saying it because they actually are. At least Tenpenny is. If you don't think claiming that a vaccine makes you magnetic and connects you with 5G cellphone towers is at a minimum borderline then you and I do not inhabit the same universe.
From the horse's mouth:
Anti-vaxxer tells Ohio lawmakers COVID-19 vaccine can leave people magnetized, interfaced with 5G to
It's borderline in the sense that it pushes the limits of what we know and accept. Do I believe and accept everything she says without question? Hell no. Do I think she is crazy and should not be heard? Hell no. Again, in context (i.e. not in a 2-minute excerpt), she (and the others I have mentioned, it's not just Tenpenny and I appreciate this is a lot to take in) brings to light very disturbing facts emerging about the content of some vaccines, Spanish researchers found graphene dioxyde in some Pfizer vials (and yes if you type this on ole' Google you will probably find articles saying this is insanity) and Japan has just suspended 1.6 Moderna doses which they tested and which contain "unknown metal nanoparticles". We don't know much yet about it, but it should be enough to slow things down instead of accelerating them.
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13 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:I thought I should google all the "competent doctors" you listed but checking the first one was more than enough, thank you:
"Sherri J. Tenpenny is an American anti-vaccination activist who supports the disproven hypothesis that vaccines cause autism. She has falsely asserted the vaccines magnetize people and connect them with cellphone towers."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherri_Tenpenny
A question for you; Do you honestly think calling this bunch of loonies "competent" does your credibility any good???
A question for you; Do you honestly think calling this bunch of loonies "competent" does your credibility any good???
After months of staying silent, I have decided to start speaking out and try to snap people out of a collective trance, as this whole thing is just going too far. The next step is injecting children and as a father myself, that is where I draw the line. If I can help wake up just one person, then I have not lost my time.
To answer your question:
As I said, they are targeted by harsh political censorship and slander, as evidenced by a simple Google search with any of their names. No need to put "competent" in quotation marks, they are competent as evidenced by decades of work and recognition.
Throughout history, in times of political turmoil or disruption, those who oppose the dominant narrative have always been labelled crazy and been subject to intense character assassination, so nothing new here.
Those who are well versed in political social engineering know how easy it is, with the right tools and means, to distort public perception to make people look either good or bad. This is especially true nowadays with search engine algorithms which can delete content altogether, or multiply occurrences exponentially if needed.
Taking excerpts from people's speeches, distorting them and using them out of context in their absence is a basic slandering technique.
As ordinary citizens, to make informed decisions, we can't rely on Google results and must listen and think for ourselves, regarding the above-mentioned doctors that involves actually listening to what they say objectively and at length. Saying "It's BS, they are crazy because I read it on Wikipedia" isn't relevant.
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2 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:""All scientific data suggests..." That is already suspisious. There can be no consensus after such a short period of time, science is based on contradicting opinions which work together over time, if we are told "everybody agrees, this is the way to go", it should raise major red flags, especially when (as is the case now) very competent doctors who are speaking against this are being censored and slandered"
Which "competent doctors" are you referring to?
Doctor Sherry Tenpenny, doctor Larry Palevski, doctor Carrie Madej, doctor Christiane Northrup, doctor Lee Merritt, doctor Sucharit Bhakdi, doctor Didier Raoult, professor Luc Montagné, doctor Louis Fouché to name just a few.
They are targeted by harsh political censorship and slander, as evidenced by a simple Google search with any of their names. The issue I am raising is why are they not allowed to debate publicly, if what they say is so easy to debunk?
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12 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:
Lucky.
Well good luck to you then.
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23 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:
Uh, yes they are. All scientific data suggest that the vaccines (even the Chinese one) are very effective against people becoming seriously ill or dying from Covid.
What you say is complete BS and a lie.
"All scientific data suggests..." That is already suspisious. There can be no consensus after such a short period of time, science is based on contradicting opinions which work together over time, if we are told "everybody agrees, this is the way to go", it should raise major red flags, especially when (as is the case now) very competent doctors who are speaking against this are being censored and slandered.
Anyone with a bit of common sense and critical thinking can only be wary of the excessive push and coerction exercised to inoculate everyone based on a virus which has a 99.5%-99.9% survival rate for people below the age of 70 (CDC figures).
If you think complying will help you, then go ahead and comply, it's your choice, but please have the decency and humility to respect people who do not share your opinion.
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8 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:
From the article you linked to:
"The sheer number of vaccinated Israelis means some breakthrough infections were inevitable, and the unvaccinated are still far more likely to end up in the hospital or die."
Again, for those who have a hard time getting the point:
The unvaccinated are still far more likely to end up in the hospital or die.
Next paragraph in the article:
"“Israel is the model,” agrees Eric Topol, a physician-scientist at Scripps Research. “It’s pure mRNA [messenger RNA] vaccines. It’s out there early. It’s got a very high level population [uptake]. It’s a working experimental lab for us to learn from.”
A 'working experimental lab' eh? Nice. So what does that make inoculated people, if not guinea pigs?
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Explain this then:
https://www.science.org/news/2021/08/grim-warning-israel-vaccination-blunts-does-not-defeat-delta
Israel has among the world’s highest levels of vaccination for COVID-19, with 78% of those 12 and older fully vaccinated, the vast majority with the Pfizer vaccine. Yet the country is now logging one of the world’s highest infection rates, with nearly 650 new cases daily per million people. More than half are in fully vaccinated people, underscoring the extraordinary transmissibility of the Delta variant and stoking concerns that the benefits of vaccination ebb over time.
45 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:Plenty of great articles explain it. It's complicated. But yes, this virus is bad. And getting worse. In the end, jabs are our way out.
Actually, it isn't too complicated. According to facts, vaccination doesn't work seem to be working that well.
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11 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:You don't get it. We won't get past this until more are vaccinated.
Explain this then:
https://www.science.org/news/2021/08/grim-warning-israel-vaccination-blunts-does-not-defeat-delta
Israel has among the world’s highest levels of vaccination for COVID-19, with 78% of those 12 and older fully vaccinated, the vast majority with the Pfizer vaccine. Yet the country is now logging one of the world’s highest infection rates, with nearly 650 new cases daily per million people. More than half are in fully vaccinated people, underscoring the extraordinary transmissibility of the Delta variant and stoking concerns that the benefits of vaccination ebb over time.
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The sheer arrogance of some of the posts I am reading here is nothing short of appalling. Claiming that anyone choosing not to receive this injection is either stupid, uneducated or mentally ill is absolutely preposterous.
Allow me to offer a counterpoint:
I know a lot of smart, educated and reasonable people who do not wish to be injected with this product. And having enough character to stand strong despite overwhelming social and political pressure is not a sign of stupidity or mental illness, in fact it is quite the contrary.
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I will ask a simple question with regard to this topic:
If I do not wish to be injected with this product, should I have the right to do so, or not?
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On 8/2/2021 at 4:23 AM, impulse said:
Post back to let us know how easy/difficult it was to travel at that time.
So I went and came back last week and it went smoothly. There was a police checkpoint as I entered Hua Hin on the way back at 16:00, but they had already gone home, just an unmanned checkpoint.
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Covid Tales 2: 78 year old retiree recounts getting Covid in Thailand after being vaccinated
in Thailand News
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Why is Europe back to lockdowns because a minority are choosing to believe conspiracies and complete nonsense rather than science and facts?
Most of the adult Portugese population is vaccinated, and yet they are now imposing tight restrictions again. Please explain this to an ignorant uneducated wretch such as myself.