Barack

19 hours ago, Sheryl said:

They go by first come, first serve, not by appointment time - appointments are used solely to limit the numbers arriving on a given day.

 

There are some other private hospitals here that work the same way e.g. St Louis and Bangkok Christian

I would be very surprised if that is their policy, they have a state of the art computer system so putting patients in the proper order should not be a issue. My one visit was pleasant although I would have come unglued if I had been treated so poorly. I will heed this warning.

Update, the Committee (no developer's JPM present) selected the Chairman and Vice-chairman using the highest vote receiver methodology. Worked well since nobody new the other's members strengths, weaknesses, qualifications, etc. The JPM will now present the results to the Land Office for registration.

Thanks for helpful posts.

Thanks KK for your input as I am not on firm ground when discussing these matters but Section 33 of the Condominium Act seems to give broad powers to the JPM and then at the same time gives the Committee (Section 38-1) shall retain the authority and duty as follows: (1) to control the management of the condominium juristic person;

Committee members decide amongst themselves who the chairman will be. Votes cast by co-owners could be considered a guideline, but no more.

Yes, it makes a lot of sense to me to discuss things in committee without the JPM/manager being present, and then to discuss them again in a full meeting.

The JPM can basically do what he wants (apart from sign cheques). I think this is one of the big things wrong with the condo system here.

My thinking was the condo coowners by their votes have shown a preference and should have some kind of impact on the Chairman election. For example, the highest vote receiver is offered the Chairmanship and if declines then number two is offered and so on and so on. This prevents quabbles and politics from day one.

Regarding contracts, my view is contract oversight is mandated by the Committee or they are not doing their job. To let the JM controll the bidding process without Committee guidance is just asking for problems. I anticipate some large roofing repairs and I don't want to see large contracts issued without Committee input. Finding this in legal or written form is a question.

Our condo project had it's annual AGM and I was voted on the Committee. How is the Chairman selected? I was the number two vote receiver amongst the condo owners. Also, I am an advocate of committee members meeting without the presence of the developer's Juristic Manager present so we can provide proper oversight and speak amongst ourselves freely. Of course it is understood we will have formal Committee Meetings with the developer's Manager and Lawyer present as per the Condominium Act. Any problems?

P.S. One last question, can the developer's Juristic Manager (as approved by the condo owners) sign legal contracts without the Committees oversight, review and recommendation?

I have eaten at Beefeaters on several occasions and both times I was disappointed. The place is busy, touristy, and I certainly wouldn't want to spend my birthday dinner there. Haven't been to the Grill House but the Mantra or Cafe Des Amis would be my choices for a birthday dinner.

I had breakfast there and was very happy. Friendly staff, a/c that works and an excellent American breakfast for a price that was more than fair considering the quality and taste. Love the little beef paddies. Don't judge the food by my pic (or a book by it's cover). For those passing judgement and not having been there can go pound salt.

Again folks, my section at Jomtien was packed yesterday and the public area had a dabbling of sunbathers and families playing in the water with children making their sandcastles. Good for them! My area was so busy they were bringing in more chairs and obviously going over their designated boundaries, couldn't tell where one started and another ended. I should have brought my sand wedge and a bucket of balls as I had enough room near Pattaya Park (free public area) to practice my golf game.

Just leave it to the military and the Bone Ranger to try to ruin tourism.

The tourists have voted. The open beach is very popular. Too crowded actually. Time to get rid of all the unused chairs.

If they set up chairs/umbrellas when requested, they would occupy less than 10% of the beach. That way everybody wins and the place wouldn't look like a slum.

The chair vendors will get all the customers they need, the tourists that want chairs can have them and the open space can be used.

As of now, they set up thousands of unused umbrellas under the shade trees and beach to keep tourists off that part of the beach. Not nice.

You are either a liar or blind, maybe both, as I sit in the in the my smaller beach concession which is packed with customers (like sardines) buying drinks, food, souvenirs, getting massage, manicures while the public areas are sparsely used. I am a tourist who has been coming regularly for many years and renting condos along Jomtien Beach. I spend easily over a thousand baht a day at the beach. I am not happy about the changes and me and my friends will reevaluate our future holiday plans. And yes it is about the people with power disregarding the wishes of the majority(and tourists) and forcing the poor, people without political clout into subservience.

Am I right in saying that there are now fines for littering in the beach areas--and the army are involved in the changes?

Not quite, there have always been fines for littering and have nothing to do with the changes or the Army. In fact, the dirtiest sections on the beach are the free public areas because nobody is responsible for maintaining the area and City lacks the resources to do so. The beach concessionaire as a condition of their license must main their area. My section of the beach is spotless. If you want trash go to the free area.

Yes ThaiBob, Jomtien. That's where I stay.

The city has evicted the illegal chair/umbrella people and the tourists are lovin it.

The newly open beach areas are very popular. Thousands of people using the open space today.

Strange you are bent on defending the criminals that commandeered the beach to prevent visitors from enjoying the sand.

I understand you like the chair setup. There still is plenty. Too many.

I went and redid my brief beach survey today with photos.

-Less than1% of the beach umbrella chairs are occupied today.

Maybe 1 tourists for every 300 chairs in reality.

Why do they set up like that without any customers?

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Hey Kemosabe, I was at the beach today and there was rain and it is not a beach day. Yesterday was much busier and my section had 50 people in it and that was more than the free section. The loneranger speaks the truth but the boneranger doesn't. No one was evicted, the concessions were forced to move ultimately by order of the army, El General, El Duce. Their leases, licenses, permissions (whatever) are still in order, legal and valid. I am a tourist, my friends are tourists and you do not speak for tourists and are obviously antitourism or bitter about something.

Ever see a TAT brochure or promotion?

They show pristine beaches and not the shanty town slum setup but crooked city officials chose greed over tourist needs and illegally rented the designated open space to vendors. Looks like crap.

Around 90% of tourists like open space according to my brief survey.

Tourists expect to see what is in the brochure, not some junkyard.

If a tourist needs an umbrella and a stinky chair, fine, set one up...just don't illegally commandeer the entire beach because you are a greedy bastard.

Your brief survey (bs) is truly bs or crap. I would say your numbers are reversed. I am here on holiday with my friends and have been coming to the beach for 15 years. We come specifically for the umbrellas and chairs. If I wanted a "free" beach I would have stayed in America. A few days ago the big change was implemented and the beach is "free" (and little used) from the Rabbit Resort all the way north. A classic case of minority rules as all the beach customers (the vast majority) are squeezed in to a much smaller space. I never seen a country that can shoot itself in the foot and destroy tourism and the poor individuals who make a living from it must suffer. Of course, the people calling the shots now could care less for the common man. And yes I have signed one of the protest petitions and talked to those in uniform about these changes. Reply, big boss (army) want. And we all know to whom he refers.

When VT7 was built in Jomtien it blocked the seaviews of JCC . At first property values did decline in the short-term but now they have rebounded and are at an all-time high. The loss of views is damaging but vt6 is a wonderful location which is a plus of the most importance. Building a 5* hotel and being next to Central Festival has many advantages for both buyers and renters.

It was 2-1. Italy has a far better cuisine too.

Fact check. The red shirts started violent public demonstrations in July of 2007Yes, in 2007 they were protesting against the military government

Indeed, the red shirts held violent demonstrations against the government in 2007 and again held violent demonstrations against the government in 2009 and once again held violent demonstrations against the government in 2010.

They are the undisputed champions of violence.

Do not necessarily agree with your wording but it is difficult to defend violence of any kind even if seemingly justified. I do not defend red shirt violence as I do not defend yellow shirt (PAD) violence as in 2008-9 with the seizure of the Government House and the forced closure and siege of airports throughout the country with the disruption of tourism and businesses. Of course, this orchestrated yellow shirt violence brought down another elected government, the PPP.

Speaking as someone who was physically in the airport at the time, I can assure you that there was no violence, and the atmosphere was jovial rather than tense, and for the departing passengers somewhat confusing. There was a severe shortage of reliable information after the airport and airline staff decamped.

I won't go into the tedious details, but suggesting (as you have done) that violence was involved in the occupation of the airport is inaccurate, it is an untruth - I know, because I was there!

You are a dissembler and a liar.

Have been watching this thread from a distance. What bunch of crap you just posted. You are lying. I was there to with my family and friends, like many of us we were all terrified. Outside it was like party or carnival atmosphere as the gutless police did nothing to help. Then some yellow shirt wai's me and tried to apologize. I was a hostage and so pissed if I was armed no telling what I would have done. In the distance later heard explosions as rumors circulated about bombs. So much for the yellow shirts and respect for tourists, tourism and private property.

To these yellow shirt, PAD, and PDRC supporters and sympathizers, understand that elections is about winning and losing. You win some and you lose some, but elections have consequences. You respect the right to vote. If you choose not to vote that is your choice but you can not deny others their right to vote. If you lose, consider your position was not popular with the electorate and if winning is that important to you then change your message. What you don't do is forcibly remove an elected government, takeover property and hold the public hostage. The right to vote and have elections is fundamental to democracy, one person, one vote and is more important than any person, ANY person.

Overuse...all the cheap charlie farangs saving the B150 foreign bank card ATM fee. Always a long line of disheveled farangs at the Bic C Extra one.

Your post(s) reek of arrogance and taking cheap shots at foreigners who might be less fortunate than you. Many of my friends use AEON ATM's because they realize over time the withdrawal surcharge is expensive and unnecessary. You must have a fundamental misunderstanding how an ATM network like VISA PLUS works. AEON makes money on our foreign withdrawals. Today I withdrew 60,000 baht (4 pulls) from the AEON ATM at Tesco North Pattaya. On Wednesday I will do the same. That is equivalent to 480 USD per year. It just so happens I use my Charles Schwab ATM card and all fees and charges are reimbursed. I use the AEON ATM out of PRINCIPLE and not line the pockets of bankers like Jaime Dimon or Thai bankers.

The Weather Channel calls it Mist, the Thais call it fog, I call it crappie air. We need some showers to clear the air.

Even the single gogo bar here has gone way downhill and needs new management.

Yes, this is due to the Russian cheap charlie influence.

That go go bar is in violation of zoning law and is police owned. Go go is not allowed in Jomtien only drinking bars. The neighborhood has been trying to get the dam thing closed for years as it plays loud base music to the early morning hours. Yes, those cheap charlie Russian families apparently don't want to patronize the place.

The topic wasn't focused on transport (for a change).

The get a good look, feel, and IMPRESSION around Jomtien directly you need to walk anyway.

The point is it is really, really DREARY and yes the Russian holidaymakers even though they dominate for the most part do not project JOY.

I imagine the mood (and supporting Thai flora and fauna) would be different if they were ITALIANS. But they're not.

Yes I have made the same long walk before.

It just seems to have gone downhill even more.

Look at this another way.

How many Jomtien residents (who aren't Russian) would actually suggest to a good friend in the west that they really must have a long stay in Jomtien (except to visit you)?

What kind of friend would that be?

You feel threatened by Iranians and dominated by Russians. Perhaps you were just feeling depression on your NY day walk and had to take it out on some group. I myself welcome diversity and experiencing other cultures (and that's more than just eating their food). Jomtien has always been dreary when compared to Pattaya, less of a party atmosphere, fewer bars, noise etc. Try to be more understanding, even the homophobic Russian families pushing their babies in strollers get along(or tolerate) the droves of young gay Russians that have also descended on Jomtien. Hate to see this degenerate in to a Russian bashing thread.

This is not unusual.It allows the developer to maintain control.As you have rightly stated their interests and the interested of the co- owners is usually polar opposites.How can you get the Jp to enforce issues against the developer if they are one of the same. Probably friendly with the auditor as well.Control the cash , lack of transparency, failure to rectify defects under warranty etc..Poor transparency .What your friend has to do, is work out on the committee how many members are the developers 'friends" and those who are just co- owners. I will guarantee that the majority will be with the developer. First of all find out who is the chairman..another relative/ close friend for sure..Had to kick our developer out..

The new board (3) is independent and the developer has no friends on this board. One of the first issues is for the developer to repair storm damage to her unsold units that happened 6 months ago.

Thanks for the reply. The project in question is here in Pattaya. The developer has completed many projects here and manages several of them using the developer's sister's management company. The sister sits in the developers office and they work together as a team. They are in fact the same. The wishes and interests of the developer and homeowners aren't always in harmony, there can naturally be conflicts. There should be legal way to prevent this obvious conflict of interest.

Where is the Juristic Person Manager in all this?

What was the process to select this management post ?

The juristic person /management company /manager/developer are for all practical purposes the same. At the board meetings, the juristic person will make recommendations such as the management company or the auditor. The homeowners then vote or should I say rubber stamp the recommendations at AGM. My buddy is very uncomfortable with this cosy arrangement.

Thanks for the reply. The project in question is here in Pattaya. The developer has completed many projects here and manages several of them using the developer's sister's management company. The sister sits in the developers office and they work together as a team. They are in fact the same. The wishes and interests of the developer and homeowners aren't always in harmony, there can naturally be conflicts. There should be legal way to prevent this obvious conflict of interest.

My friend has been elected to the condominium association board. He has learned the juristic person and management company is the sister of the project developer. His view is this is a direct conflict of interest. Is this legal? What can be done? The developer has a majority voting interest.

Barack

First off I apologize for saying he put on a temporary cap. It was actually a temp filling which was explained to me by the 2^nd dentist. Like I also said had it been done right the first time I wouldn't have had to go back. Today the 2^nd dentist removed the temp filling as I developed an infection because food was lodging between the filling and gums.

Bottom line is I was not attacking anyone, just stating my opinion of what I considered poor dental practice. Getting a second opinion on a questionable procedure to me is a prudent thing to do. As far as what you suspect, that is irrelevant. Unless you are a qualified dentist, your opinion regarding why the filling came out means squat. Dentistry last I heard was not hereditary. I had nothing to gain by voicing my opinion, it was just an opinion in answer to the original op looking for a fair dentist. Sorry if I offended your buddy.

Dr Tappasit is not my "buddy" but a highly respected dentist. Yes, he is on the higher side of the costs curve as no one is disputing. I am glad your dentist taught you the difference between a cap and a filling and you have found a cheap alternative. Now the OP has more choices Dr. Tappasit at Studiosmile and your buddy.

Jsixpack.You are one of the few people that ever posted in this thread who has ever seen any thing good in

the beach road redevelopment...As a matter of fact you insist that its wonderful....

Me Awohalitsiktoli and about 90-95% of the posters on this thread think the new beach road is a peice of crap..

No seating,No shade,Very few trees,Nothing artistic like water fountains, and no the one eye on a purple stick does not count as art in my book.pathetic water drainage with the new design.lots of beautiful sandbags ect....

Pattaya is pretty damm lucky the Russians are such undiscriminating people...

Jsixpack, strikes me as being a realist. Pattaya is a second class city (that's being kind) with limited resources and why cry and whine over something you have no control over? The primary object of improving traffic flow looks doable and as a driver I can personally attest to. Yes, at night there is still the construction bottleneck by WS with cars and pedestrians sharing the road but things should improve when construction is complete. So to the grumpy old men who post here, stop the sniveling about shade and trees for the prostitutes and their johns and welcome and embrace the new Pattaya.