merlen10002

Are you implying in your original post that your existing employer will essentially send you to Australia?

In the meantime this following website has a whole host of information

How can I get a visa to work in Australia?

http://www.immi.gov.au/FAQs/Pages/how-can-i-get-a-visa-to-work-in-australia.aspx

I am an international commuter I work al over the world offshore. My employer isn't sending me to Australia. I'm just looking for someplace to settle my family that is warm (otherwise my native Canada would be perfect), has Western standards and is English speaking. Since I am already employed and will not be working in Australia I don't seem to fit the VISA profiles on the gov website.

Send a email to the Australian Embassy Bangkok , [email protected] cover all your concerns and ask about everything you want to know, you will receive a reply very quick and they answer all your query's in full. They are the experts not the TV members as I just proved by my last posting.

You may qualify to migrate to Australia the Embassy will let you know, don't take any notice of the bloke saying Australia is no good it is the best country in the world. the lucky country.

You do realise that your last visit to Thai CC house has just confirmed what people have been trying to tell you all along.

In your first post you posted this,

I decided to ask at Thai CC House Bangkok the visa application center, they have someone every Thursday to answer question, 2.00pm to 4.00pm, to my surprise the requirements for financial and accommodation information are not required anymore, the only requirements are for a real and true relationship, our marriage documents will cover that as we registered our marriage.

The part in bold the main thing people disagreed with in the post, as you said "its not required anymore"

Than in your latest post you post advice from the Embassy saying that its still required.

I again asked is financial information was required (this time it was a man last week it was a lady) he said no it is not a strong thing that we look for in the application, I asked him when did this requirement change, he said the requirement was changed just over one year ago, HIS WORDS NOT MINE, he used the words requirement and changed, I asked what about the application form it requires financial information to support your wife/partner, he said if you have bank statements or any financial information include them but it is not a strong thing we look at, he said we did but not now, I asked about accommodation is it the same he said yes not a strong thing we look for now we did before but not now.

The point that its still required and thats the thing people have been trying to tell you, which your latest visit has confirmed.

As I posted the amount of weight it carry's depends on a case by case basis and overall it may not carry much weight since the social security changes in 2012, which the officer may have been referring to.

But its still required as per regulation 1.20 2( c ) of the Migration regulations 1994 and you will need to show how you meet these obligations, which is why the sponsor application form hasn't changed.

Surin13 could not have got this post more wrong if he tried, financial information not required but if you have bank statements you can include them, that said nothing about the information being required.

This is the email from the Embassyimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpg

I will have the email downloaded on this post today, my computer is on its last legs,

The Email reads

From : [email protected]

Sent: Wednesday, February 26,2014 9:36 AM

To %5Bsnip%5D

Subject: Partner Visa (SEC-UNCASSIFIED)

Dear Mr L.....

Thanks for your email, There is no longer a financial requirement to be assessed for partner visas. However , you are required to sign a sponsorship undertaking ,

which is part of the application form, to commit to providing the applicant with accommodation and financial support.

Kind regards

Permanent Migration

Department of Immigration and Border Protection

Australian Embassy Bangkok

Anyone can send a email to the email address above and receive the same reply

this confirms my posting that the requirements for financial information has changed and it changed one year ago.

I will forward the original email to anyone that is still doubtful that this is true, but better to email the Embassy yourself.

True. Form 40SP no longer requires your employment info/income, but you are still required to complete Section H that relates to accommodation info. Unless a new version of form 40SP will be released in April that removes this section for OZ citizens (April being the timeline for new version releases) may be you should follow up & clarify and let us know the outcome

I am not going to let you blokes slime out of this,, never in any of my posts did I say that no financial support was required or accommodation support was not required. I only ever said that financial information was now not required, and accommodation information was not required, will27 wrote no set amount was required, also in the email from Rebecca Benson at the Embassy said, THERE IS NO LONGER A FINANCIAL REQUIREMENT TO ASSESSED, there was an requirement to supply financial and accommodation information up till one year ago, I know the amount of financial information my mate on the Gold Coast had to supply as he sent it all to me and I with his lady put it in to the AVSC, I also had it checked by the same service I used this time at the AVSC,

If you and will27 was not having a go at me I would hate to see what it would be like if you were.

This is the email from the Embassyimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpg

I will have the email downloaded on this post today, my computer is on its last legs,

The Email reads

From : [email protected]

Sent: Wednesday, February 26,2014 9:36 AM

To %5Bsnip%5D

Subject: Partner Visa (SEC-UNCASSIFIED)

Dear Mr L.....

Thanks for your email, There is no longer a financial requirement to be assessed for partner visas. However , you are required to sign a sponsorship undertaking ,

which is part of the application form, to commit to providing the applicant with accommodation and financial support.

Kind regards

Permanent Migration

Department of Immigration and Border Protection

Australian Embassy Bangkok

Anyone can send a email to the email address above and receive the same reply

this confirms my posting that the requirements for financial information has changed and it changed one year ago.

I will forward the original email to anyone that is still doubtful that this is true, but better to email the Embassy yourself.

This is the email from the Embassy

Sorry I am having problems with my computer, that is the reason I went to Bangkok last Thursday, I can not down load the email reply I received from the Embassy, will go to a internet café and send it from there. will be later to night.

I received this email reply from the Australian Embassy Bangkok today, in my posts I have never said that there is no requirement to financial support or for a partner or provide accommodation, I said that I was told that no financial information was now required same for accommodation. anyone can get the same reply by emailing the Embassy, [email protected] it was very easy and the reply one day later.

I bank with the Kasikornbank and have sent money back to Australia every month for over three years to my bank in Australia and to my brothers bank in Sydney Australia and to my mates bank on the Gold Coast, not every branch of the Kasikornbank can send money overseas, in Pattaya the Kasikornbank on Central Pattaya Rd is the only Kasikornbank that can send money overseas, I used the Kasikornbank at Sukhumvit 101 branch in Bangkok, any branch will tell you the branch that will send money overseas, you must have the Bank Name and address, Account Name, Account Number, Bank Code, SWIFT Code.

I never had to give a reason for sending money and always sent it to a personal person and account.

I have all the paperwork but don't want to post that on TV as it has all my personal details, account numbers bank .

I have accounts with the Kasikornbank and find them great to deal with very happy with the service.

Same people who go to Foo-khet for their holidays I guess.

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No, haven't had any visitors of late.

But I must say, I have not heard a Brit say "Pah-tai-YA" correctly yet.

I think this Brit says it correctly. (3 times in the first 20 seconds of the tape)

I think that is correct

Anyone can phone the Australian Embassy you don't have give your name or passport number, they will confirm if I am right or wrong.

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I was late to this thread but I thank you OP for your politely worded update on Partner visa requirements to Australia! I was looking at an application in the near future and you have taken a load of worry from my mind.

Just one point OP; you did promise to type a bit slower and lay off the big words, could you please stick to that promise next time? I am getting older and my ability for comprehension and concentration is no better than it was when I was in 4th class. 4th class was definitely the start of a long slide in concentration and the ability to focus for me. I blame the girls sitting in our table group. They were very motivated and did their homework every night, making the rest of the group look very lazy. I had been working on a ‘copy my friend’s homework once a fortnight’ approach, and I felt that was my limit. Any residual scholarly motivation I possessed was sucked from within. The rest of that 4^th class year was spent in a haze of making classroom jokes and drawing pictures of male and female stick figures

I was delighted to hear that I do not have to provide any financial evidence or proof of accommodation! This invasion of my privacy could have opened up a Pandora’s box of trouble. I know I can take the new rule as fact because you said someone told you that it is not ‘strong’ requirement anymore. This has brought me renewed confidence in the chances of my visa success. My friends in OZ ridiculed me when I told them that the GF and I had a love so big that it would conquer anything. Who’s laughing now eh?

OP, ignore the advice of the other clown-posters here. Most of them have only personal experience in submitting Visa applications, and likely know of many others who also have. Some of them are even advising following the information on the application forms. They are blinded by their experiences. I can tell you are not the type of fool who is influenced by the experienced advice of others!

All that useless information they wasted their time providing yesterday is certainly not needed in today’s streamlined environment. You have convinced me of that 100%! Thankyou sir!

I extend to you & your wife a warm offer to come and visit if you are visiting the Gold Coast area in future. The tree I have my eye on for me and the missus should be able to support a 1 bedroom mini structure. Room enough for 4. I’m no Tarzan, but we have been known to do some swinging, so keep that in mind for your visit. There is a big tourist demand for gum leaf art on the Gold Coast and I reckon the old girl will enjoy doing up a few collages while sitting at home.

I will keep you all updated

BM

BookMan Thank you for your post, I really liked it, good humour and refreshing even if you are taking the mickey out of me and think what I posted was nonsense, you did in a nice way, my comments got impolite as they went on as I suffer fools poorly.

I will make a few points if I may about your post.

The someone that told me was not just a someone, both the people were the Officers that assess the visa applications at the Australian Embassy not just someone and not someone that works at the AVSC, I would think they would know what was required and not give wrong information, they are not people that have a high turnover in their employment, I think that a position at the Australian Embassy would be a plum position and highly sort after. I thought that Surin13 comments about the people I spoke to and worked at the Embassy were ludicrous.

After the applications are put into the AVSC they go into a black bag and all applications are sent to the embassy to be assessed daily, the people I spoke to are the people that do this at the Embassy.

As for the experience of will27,Surin13 and the other ones that said I was wrong I don't think any of them has been to the AVSC at Thai CC house or they would know about the service that the Embassy provides, I would be surprised if any of them had done a application for a Thai lady to get a visa to go to Australia, I could be wrong but I don't think so. I think the only experience they have would from TV , and that is not great experience. I think they have nil experience and I don't mean anything nasty by that just a gut feeling.

I really hope you are putting an application in for your lady very soon because if you do and ask about the financial information and accommodation information you will then know I am correct with what I have posted.

I will be going to the Gold Coast to live as I lived there before.

The thing I objected to was will27 Surin13 David48 and the rest them making out I was stupid foolish did understand what I was talking about and a lie, and the people that I spoke to at AVSC were also stupid and did not understand and gave me wrong information.

All this can be verified by making one phone call to the Australian Embassy any day between 2.00pm and 4.00pm Monday to Friday,, I will give the phone number in the next post, maybe you will be the one to make the call , your a bit more sensible and less dogmatic about things.

I am very sorry I apologize to will27,david48,surin13,grantsmith and krisb, I did not know you all have a understanding disability, I am sorry I have written to quick, I will write a lot slower for you, and not use big words or long complicated post.

Form 40SP 52 is the reason I went to see the Embassy Officer at the AVSC because I was concerned about the requirement to supply financial information to support my wife in Australia and the information about accommodation,, hope I am not writing to fast for you,, I asked the Australian lady Officer from the Australian Embassy Bangkok, not a Thai lady, identified by the large card around her neck, her posting in Bangkok was for two years, not some fly by night idiot that would give wrong information as surin13 has suggested, we had a personal talk about a few things after my questions, my question was how do I supply information for the financial requirement to support my wife in Australia, as in 40SP 52, as I only have a small amount of money in a bank account in Australia, all my money is in Thai banks, and I do not have any property in Australia and will have to rent when we get to Australia.

She said don't worry it is not required, it has changed now, we understand that someone that is not employed or have no income or on a pension financial information is not necessary.

I have never said I do not have to support my wife financially as required or not supply accommodation for my wife in Australia. maybe she was speaking about only old blokes like me, she also said they can not discriminate against someone like me. I don't know all I was interested in was my situation.

The second Officer one week later said almost the same thing but said it was not a strong thing and not a strong point, he was an Australian guy don't know how long he was working in Bangkok, he also said if I had information about my finances in Thailand I could include it but it was not necessary, he was the one that told me it had changed one year ago, why the form has not changed is maybe for the people that are employed and have income, I don't know and don't care.

will27

I remember your post about getting it in writing and asked him could he do that for me, he said no could not give anything in writing and I understand that, maybe you can not because of your understanding problem. and it was never said financials are not necessary but include them, you are trying to be a smart arse, he said if anything you want to include do it, very different to not necessary but include them,, another smart arse remark about driving 240 km and not just email them. the visit to AVSC was not the main reason I went to Bangkok not that is any of your business why I drove to Bangkok.

Surin13

The part of the Post that is the requirements have changed is true they changed one year ago, that is what the Australian Officer said, I believe him not any blokes that post on TV maybe it only for blokes like me don't know or care. and I know what is in all the forms, that is why I am being carful and trying to do the right thing,

I told you all how to confirm this but I am sure not one of you will, maybe no guts,

Will be delighted to let you all know when we get the visa without financial or accommodation information.

Hope this has not put to much pressure on your understanding disability.

You do realise that your last visit to Thai CC house has just confirmed what people have been trying to tell you all along.

In your first post you posted this,

I decided to ask at Thai CC House Bangkok the visa application center, they have someone every Thursday to answer question, 2.00pm to 4.00pm, to my surprise the requirements for financial and accommodation information are not required anymore, the only requirements are for a real and true relationship, our marriage documents will cover that as we registered our marriage.

The part in bold the main thing people disagreed with in the post, as you said "its not required anymore"

Than in your latest post you post advice from the Embassy saying that its still required.

I again asked is financial information was required (this time it was a man last week it was a lady) he said no it is not a strong thing that we look for in the application, I asked him when did this requirement change, he said the requirement was changed just over one year ago, HIS WORDS NOT MINE, he used the words requirement and changed, I asked what about the application form it requires financial information to support your wife/partner, he said if you have bank statements or any financial information include them but it is not a strong thing we look at, he said we did but not now, I asked about accommodation is it the same he said yes not a strong thing we look for now we did before but not now.

The point that its still required and thats the thing people have been trying to tell you, which your latest visit has confirmed.

As I posted the amount of weight it carry's depends on a case by case basis and overall it may not carry much weight since the social security changes in 2012, which the officer may have been referring to.

But its still required as per regulation 1.20 2( c ) of the Migration regulations 1994 and you will need to show how you meet these obligations, which is why the sponsor application form hasn't changed.

I can not believe you blokes you will not give in,,,,,, I asked again is the financial information required ? He said NO, NO MEANS NO , both the first officer and the second officer said NO it is not required, maybe I did not write it clear enough for you but it was very clear what he said to me, it is not a strong thing we look for was after the NO,, not part of the same answer the conversation with him was for about 15 minutes I have not put all the conversation in the post , he made it very clear I did not have to include financials or accommodation information, he did say if I had bank account details I could include them if I wanted to. the first lady officer did not say anything about including financial or accommodation. she simply said it was not necessary. both the officers where very clear it was not required to include financial or accommodation information, I guarantee not you or anyone saying I am wrong will contact the Embassy to find out if I am wrong or not. before they changed the requirement for financials and accommodation the information had to be about both in Australia, I don't have anything in Australia except for a small bank account, every thing is in Thailand

Email address for information about visa wife/partner

[email protected]

Send email and someone will mail back with a name and phone number

More about the requirements for wife/partner visa to Australia, and for WILL27,, who is being very negative about this post, I started this post thinking it may be of interested to Australian men that want to get their wife/partner to Australia and maybe a help to them,, I went to Thai CC house again yesterday afternoon, (I live in Nong Phi Lai Banglamung Chonburi Bangkok is a 120 kms from my place not that easy to go there) This is the second time in two weeks. I again spoke with a officer from the Australian Embassy, (they come to the visa application place from the Embassy every Thursday between 2.00pm & 4.00pm to give this service and they have their identification on them, they are the people that grant or refuse the visa, no one would be more qualified to know what is required than this person and that can not be disagreed with.

I again asked is financial information was required (this time it was a man last week it was a lady) he said no it is not a strong thing that we look for in the application, I asked him when did this requirement change, he said the requirement was changed just over one year ago, HIS WORDS NOT MINE, he used the words requirement and changed, I asked what about the application form it requires financial information to support your wife/partner, he said if you have bank statements or any financial information include them but it is not a strong thing we look at, he said we did but not now, I asked about accommodation is it the same he said yes not a strong thing we look for now we did before but not now. I asked why the application from was not changed he said it is not a strong point, not sure what that meant.

He said the strong thing they look for now is the relationship it must be a real relationship and for one year and have very strong proof of the relationship, he said someone like myself that was retired had no employment or income could not have their wife or partner live in Australia with them before now people like you can get a visa for your wife, I have gone to a bit of trouble to find this out and only posted on TV to help others, I went to the right place to find out and got the correct information only to have it pooh-pooh by negative know all know nothings on TV. what I have posted is not misleading or misunderstood but the facts about the requirements as of now, I will post a email address where anyone can send a email and ask for information about a visa for wife/partner and will get a reply email with a name of a person and a phone number to call and ask if what I have posted is correct or not, I wonder if any of the posters that said I was wrong will have the balls or guts to man up and send a email and call ask to see if what I have posted is right, I think not, pathetic,, the people that could benefit from this new requirements I am sure will check to find out if I am correct, I don't give two fishes tits about what anyone thinks I know that it is very good news for my wife and I and it makes things easy for us.

Had a snake in our house few months ago, was told to call city hall , I live in Bangalmung, phoned City Hall they sent the rescue people out with snake caching gear and took the snake away, they came very quick, phone the City Hall in your area they will take care of it, and no cost.

Gosh khun Will27, despite being one of the more hansum man on these forums, you sure are an argumentative rex hunt! Can't you see, khun merlen10002, is well versed in the ways of the DIAC, he have experience for many years now!

If he says that he spoke with the DIAC and they said that he no have to provide paperwork, he know have to provide paperwork. Maybe he is more hansum man than you and get special consideration?

Boy you could not be more wrong,, hansum man me no no no, welly ugly and skinny but very big thing

AFAIK, these aren't "new" requirements as there has never been a set criteria

for financials and accommodation before.

As a sponsor, you have always had a requirement to provide accommodation and financial support

for your partner and their family for up to two years following visa grant or first entry into Australia.

This is still the case.

Sponsors have included payslips, group certificates etc, but again, I'm pretty sure that there has never

been any set requirements other than the ones I have just mentioned. So I don't think anything has changed

at all.

The visa agent in Pattaya either is a moron, a rip off artist or both.

The immigration officer told me financial was a requirement until recently as was accommodation but is now not a requirement, there has always been a set requirement, please do not say what I have posted is incorrect, this is one of the people that grant the visa that told me, I had a face to face meeting with her, it has only just been changed, I also know what my mate in Australia had to supply for his now wife he had to supply bank statements documents for his house everything to prove he could support her, I did all the documents for his lady and when to the visa place at Thai CC house a few times with his lady that was in 2012, I also did three tourist visa for Thai ladies never used a visa agent, the last one for my wife in November 2012 we when for 19 days, always do my own extension of stay for retirement, only wanted the visa agent to answer two question not get him to do anything. visa is easy for Australia as is all visa in Thai immigration if you can meet the requirements only is difficult if you can not.

As stated previously, the sponsor always had a requirement both financially and for accommodation.

It was just never a "set" amount. For example, there was no income threshold you had to meet.

IMO, nothing has changed. You still have these requirements. You're saying "it has only just changed

and is no longer a requirement". If that is the case, how come this is on the 40SP which is the sponsorship

form for a spouse visa?

"

52 Undertaking

For sponsors of a Prospective Marriage visa applicant:

I agree to accept responsibility for:

• all financial obligations to the Commonwealth incurred by my

fiancé(e) arising from their stay in Australia;

And

For sponsors of a Partner visa applicant:

I agree to assist my partner, to the extent necessary:

• financially;

• in relation to accommodation in the first 2 years immediately

after their Partner visa is granted (if they were granted the visa in

Australia) or their first entry to Australia as a holder of the Partner

visa (if they were granted the visa outside Australia).

Also from the DIAC website:

Sponsor obligations

As a sponsor you must provide accommodation and financial support for your partner and their family for up to two years following visa grant or first entry into Australia including any period they take English language courses (if needed).

So, you're saying, that there are now no financial or accommodation requirements.

Using that scenario, someone who is unemployed and sharing a council house with

5 other can lodge an application and their circumstances wouldn't be taken into account.

Good luck with that one.

I don't know if you have been given incorrect advice or have interpreted

incorrectly, but IMO, nothing has changed at all so the heading is misleading.

Nothing I have posted said that I do not have the responsibility to financially support my wife in Australia or that I would not have the responsibility to provide accommodation for her, what I have posted is that I do not have to provide bank statements or pay slips or any other financial information to DIAC in the application for her visa, same for accommodation, wish you would read what I have posted, it is very simple DIAC don't want financial information anymore or accommodation information , they did but it has now changed.

I will try and tell it word for word the conversation I had with the officer at DIAC last Thursday, I ask her if the money I had in bank accounts in Thailand would be acceptable to show I could support my wife in Australia as we wanted to go to Australia to live, I also asked what I had to have to show for accommodation, I told her I had only a small amount in my bank in Australia and I had no property in Australia and would have to sort out some where to live when I got back to Australia, I told her I had a mate we could stay with until I found a place to live, I ask what information I had to supply with my wife application for a visa, that is very simple there can be no misunderstanding of what I asked.

She said I did not have to supply any financial information or accommodation information as they use to require financial information and accommodation information but don't any more it only recently changed,, I again asked to make sure I understood what she told me ,, I asked I don't need to supply anything about money or how we would live in Australia ? she said no nothing ,, this is all very simple and not a misunderstanding by me or the officer at DIAC.

I have applied for partner visa for my first Thai wife and had to supply lot of stuff about my house, business and bank accounts and was concerned about this application for my now wife with all my money being in Thailand. I have been involved in six visa applications for Thai ladies so far and do know something about it.

This is very hard to dispute as it is from a senior officer at DIAC, JUST MAYBE YOU BLOKES ARE WRONG FOR ONCE, just saying, anyone can check for them self by phoning DIAC on Thursday between 2.00pm and 4.00pm if you want the number I can give it to you in a PM .

Looks remarkably similar to the BMW...I guess it doesn't matter if a B 1M pickup or 3M Beamer, it's all the same when you slam into the backs of trucks at speed.

No BMW ever had a front bar or head lights like that, I know I sold BMW for many years.

AFAIK, these aren't "new" requirements as there has never been a set criteria

for financials and accommodation before.

As a sponsor, you have always had a requirement to provide accommodation and financial support

for your partner and their family for up to two years following visa grant or first entry into Australia.

This is still the case.

Sponsors have included payslips, group certificates etc, but again, I'm pretty sure that there has never

been any set requirements other than the ones I have just mentioned. So I don't think anything has changed

at all.

The visa agent in Pattaya either is a moron, a rip off artist or both.

The immigration officer told me financial was a requirement until recently as was accommodation but is now not a requirement, there has always been a set requirement, please do not say what I have posted is incorrect, this is one of the people that grant the visa that told me, I had a face to face meeting with her, it has only just been changed, I also know what my mate in Australia had to supply for his now wife he had to supply bank statements documents for his house everything to prove he could support her, I did all the documents for his lady and when to the visa place at Thai CC house a few times with his lady that was in 2012, I also did three tourist visa for Thai ladies never used a visa agent, the last one for my wife in November 2012 we when for 19 days, always do my own extension of stay for retirement, only wanted the visa agent to answer two question not get him to do anything. visa is easy for Australia as is all visa in Thai immigration if you can meet the requirements only is difficult if you can not.

NCA is a world class bus company, the best in Thailand for sure, have been to KK from BKK many times with NCA they change drivers half way every time I have gone with NCA, shame this has happen with their bus and two crashes in the last few weeks, would still use them.

I have lived in Thailand for 6 years and now would like to return to Australia to live, I know most requirements for visa/ tourist and partner, have been married for over three years, I wanted to know if money in a Thai bank would be taken into account or if all money must be in an Australian bank, have only a small amount in Australian bank, I went to a visa agent in Pattaya to find out about it and was told all money must be in Australia and I would need $AUD100,000.00 to support my wife's application. I decided to ask at Thai CC House Bangkok the visa application center, they have someone every Thursday to answer question, 2.00pm to 4.00pm, to my surprise the requirements for financial and accommodation information are not required anymore, the only requirements are for a real and true relationship, our marriage documents will cover that as we registered our marriage. The visa agent would know this and just proves they are rip off merchants. His price was 60,000BHT to do the visa for us.

All people that are great with spelling and grammar please refrain from comments on this post about spelling and grammar.

You/we (westerners) represent less than 0.3% of the population, you get to live here, eat inexpensive food, pay almost no tax, enjoy a warm climate and have frequent sex with beautiful women, what do you want next, voting privileges! Quit whinging.

You really have no bloody idea, do you ? The amount of tax I pay monthly is far in excess of the average Thai annual salary.

I would like to have a business and pay a lot of tax, that business would be very successful and make a lot of money, should be happy not complain, very easy to pay more tax than most Thais as most don't pay tax.

Seems I am the only one who thinks it looks awful.

totster

No,, On your side, lot of money to f,, up a good truck,