Boeing757

Thanks for your reply rgs2001uk.

I am sorry, but I will not let my optimism run away with me.

My maths will only contain the following figures until the time that my own production proves them wrong:

289 kg per Rai per Year.

100 baht per Kg.

40%-60% split with tappers and 10% "loss" for wastage (50% for me)

1 Bag of fertilizer per rai twice a year at 100 baht per bag.

Replant 10% of trees every year for first 5 years.

There are of course other costs like clearing weeds, pruning, watering, fencing etc, etc, but these are more difficult to cost.

This may not be the case for others, but for me, this is what i shall use for now.

Clive

Think you left off a zero on the bag of fertiliser. Jim

Thank you Jim.

Strange but true. I did indeed leave off a Zero.

Fertilizer = 1000 baht per 50 kg bag.

Clive

Thanks for your reply rgs2001uk.

I am sorry, but I will not let my optimism run away with me.

My maths will only contain the following figures until the time that my own production proves them wrong:

289 kg per Rai per Year.

100 baht per Kg.

40%-60% split with tappers and 10% "loss" for wastage (50% for me)

1 Bag of fertilizer per rai twice a year at 100 baht per bag.

Replant 10% of trees every year for first 5 years.

There are of course other costs like clearing weeds, pruning, watering, fencing etc, etc, but these are more difficult to cost.

This may not be the case for others, but for me, this is what i shall use for now.

Clive

Hello,

I myself live near Ubon and have 40 Rai of Rubber trees and looking for more. the price of Latex is ever rising especially as the price and demand for oil rises. I think latex is a profitable business. We plant 100 trees per rai, prunned down to about 80 by the 7th year. The market is about 150 baht a month per tree. inital investment seems large since its a 7 year wait before production but we are starting to see the benefits. We rely only on the rainy season for water, no other atering and we seem to be doing okay the trees are very rezealant and doing well. A little labor intense but its helping out the family alot. I really cannot see the over saturization of this market with oil supplies running out and demand going up.

Being a non farmer I can only accept what you say as you are the one involved in rubber, however I am having difficulty getting my head round the above figures, may well be I am reading them wrongly.

80 x 150 x 12 x 40, or 80 trees per rai x 150 baht per month x 12 months of the year x 40 rai, this equals 5,760,000 baht per year.

Is my simple arithmetic correct or am I missing something here?

Last year the wife and I were looking at property in the Tha Mai area of Chanthaburi, land with rubber trees on was being sold for 300 000 baht per rai, so a 30 rai farm was being sold for 9 million baht, I have no idea of the age of these trees, however this sounds too good to be true.

Whats the life of a rubber tree after the initial 7 year wait?

I too find it hard to assimilate these and other figures. It is not that I feel they are wrong, but it is like comparing apples with pears. We hear all sort of different statements from ml / tree / day, to baht / rai/ month.

I just have to get these into a number that my monkey brain will comprehend.

The Government produces the average production rate for the whole of the country. It is in Kg / rai / year. That figure is 289 kg / rai / year.

If it is good enough for the Government then it is good enough for me.

Using some very basic maths, 150 baht / month / tree equates to 1350 baht / year / tree ( if you assume 9 months tapping / year).

This in turn equates to 108000 baht / year / rai. (assuming 80 trees / rai).

And this will equal 900 baht / rai / year. (assuming the present price is 120 baht / kg ).

Compared to the average of 289, this certainly is very impressive and something I can only dream of in 5 years time when my first trees reach maturity.

For me, I am still hoping to reach the national average.

Clive

I am not sure that anyone has answered Steph14 opening post.

So as an indication, here is what I have paid recently.

June this year 32 baht per tree for RRIM600, and last year 22 Baht per tree for RRIT251.

Planting was 3 baht/ tree and fertilizer 1000 Baht per Rai.

I did not order my plants, just bought them off the shelf, which was obviously a mistake.

I hope this reply is of some help

Clive

A lovely sentiment Bob and very well said.

I would love to do a similar thing though I would never be able to say it as eloquently as you.

All the best,

Clive

Mukdahan

I came across this website which was particularly useful and gave him a call.

He seems to have all your answers and a very good downloadable document which contains production rates etc.

When we called all he wanted to do is buy my land, but after we got over that hurdle he was very informative.

Give him a try.

http://yan​gpara.blog​spot.com/

http://bur​iramyangpa​ra.blogspo​t.com/

Clive

Jim. You seem to imply that 1.2 Kg/Month/Tree is a little optimistic. May I ask you for your more realistic productive figure?

For me, an annual rate is more helpful than a monthly one as the cutting season seems to vary wildly. Up here in Mukdahan it seems to be only 7 months!

757