oldsparrow

I think there is disadventage factor for Asian Westerner.

The problem is that, Western girl manner is different from traditional ideal manner for Thai lady. The same manner by white Westerners just look normal but from Asian girl it does not look adorable in traditional Thai ideal. It reminds THe Thais of not so well manner Thai girls.

Maybe I am just an old fashion Thai.

ยักยี่ยักเหยา !! This must be a very exclusive word. In my 36 years as a Thai I never heard of this one.

For informal expression with "yor" I can think of

ยึกยัก

ยุ่งยิ่ง

Anyway it can be ้her personal expression.

I can't write Thai but my wife uses what I can only write like this: "My mum 'jeck jeck' me" Not sure if it's nagging or a bollocking? She says the same about me if I moan about being lost while driving...after she's asked directions....for the tenth time! "Why you 'jeck jeck' me" Is it a real Thai word associated with nagging?...Over to the more knowledgable members.

Just think it could be this one "๋Jor Jae" เจ๊าะ แจ๊ะ = Harmless annoying/too much talk

๊้Uhm, never heard of jeck-jeck for this situation. The closest expression I can now think of is jun-jarn จุ้นจ้าน = mess up with or ยุ่ง (yung)

There is more than the co-op. To secure the popularity and vote the gov. employ stupid policy of guarantee the price and pawn the rice HIGHER than the market price. Naturally no farmer came to pay money, get the rice back and transport it to the market. So we had million tons of rice bought by tax waiting to be released at the "right" time for the state coffer. Then the corrupted politicians make money from the "spoiled rice" that is to be sold at "lower" to "certain rice merchants".

Misery of the farmers mostly come from what they have to pay to grow rice such as fertiliser, insecticide etc.

Countries, especially the poor one, with history of colonialism threat are quick to be jumpy of the idea of foreigner owning land.

When was Thailand a colony..?? If fact Thailand is always spouting off that they where one of the few countries that was never invaded by anyone and colonised.. In reality look at some of the countries in SEA, ie Singapore and Malaysia, and their colonial history and in fact in some circumstances you can in fact own land. IMHO, with reference to land ownership in Thailand is more to do with the Thai "elite" loosing control of the exploitation of their own people. The elite has created this xenophobia to protect their own interests only.... nothing to do with doing things for the good of the country...

Thailand was invaded by the Japanese and defeated rapidly.........had the British and Americans not intervened Thailand would be part of Japan today. I don't think they teach that in Thailand's history books. I think you are totally correct: "...land ownership in Thailand is more to do with the Thai elite loosing control of the exploitation of their own people....The elite has created this xenophobia to protect their own interests only.... nothing to do with doing things for the good of the country." And about "agricultural serfdoms," most farmers are already slaves to the system........it could hardly get worse for them if foreigners started getting more involved, bringing with them capital and new production techniques.

They teach in school at Mor 2 or 3 (Grade 8 or 9) I am not quite sure :

On the 8 Dec 1941 (actually the same time as the Pearl attack). The J. landed in Manao (Lemon) gulf in Prajuabkirikhan. There was fighting for half day then the PM Marshal Phibunesonkram talk to the J. and agree to sign the alliance treaty. The J. insist that the Thai gov. must swear the oath in Wat Prakaew of the Grand Palace so it happened. In short the J. march pass TL to then Burma. Printed too much money when they bough anything from the Thai (that turn to rubbish). The J. supported TL to invade Fench Indo China and British Shan State to gain lost territories and the event became victory manument in BKK. After the war TL claim the Free Thai activity and stage mock traial on the PM for war crime in alliance with the J. Using legal trick the PM didn't received penalty. The American and Brit were OK with the arguement and they want TL to be a base for white Chinese in southeren front (This sentence they teach in University not in school). However, the French wanted to chew up TL.

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It's true that the J. punished the Thais by themselves when they caught them sealing. The popular story is forcing the thieves to drink gasoline that they stole. The Thai tried to steal J. good from the train by jump up and kick it down, the slang for this is The Thai Kicking Company บริษัทไทยถีบ. Few years ago there was a Thai film ยุวชนทหาร about the briet fighting with the J. on the 8 Dec. 41

The Thai chief of envoy to J. was Praya Phahonponpayuhasena, old friend to Tojo. They were classmate cadet in the German military school, another guy in the group was Goering. Once Goering was punch the front teeth out by another Thai cadet. In 1935, Goering wrote to Thai classmate if he want to send his son to German military school, Goering would take care of the arrangement.

I am sure it was not an equal partner but it was sure different from the J. occupation somewhere else.

hmm, the house that i rent has a chili plant in the backyard - but I promise - it was there before i moved in. Can i still eat them though?

I hope you have a work permit for watering it.

The wife does this Toady - I supervise and offer smartass comments.

From now you can tell your wife that the law prohibits farang to do farming/gardening in Thai's land

Countries, especially the poor one, with history of colonialism threat are quick to be jumpy of the idea of foreigner owning land.

When was Thailand a colony..?? If fact Thailand is always spouting off that they where one of the few countries that was never invaded by anyone and colonised.. In reality look at some of the countries in SEA, ie Singapore and Malaysia, and their colonial history and in fact in some circumstances you can in fact own land. IMHO, with reference to land ownership in Thailand is more to do with the Thai "elite" loosing control of the exploitation of their own people. The elite has created this xenophobia to protect their own interests only.... nothing to do with doing things for the good of the country...

Thailand has never been "Officially" colonized, the English didn't want it and the Japs just walked in and claimed it, rofl....... Unfortunately the Thais are not teached this in school, so they have no idea and think they are the best nation under the sun (excuse the Jap pun)....

Not colonised but under great threat and lost half of the territory.

From the era of King Rama I we had owned territories that are now Lao PDR, Cambodia and almost half of Malaysia plus some areas in Myanmar.

According to the Thai side of the story (for I can't give western reference at the moment), there were many attempts of colonisation. The English and the French once agreed to divide the land by Chaopraya River, west bank to the English, east to the French.

There was also an event that the English Ambassador tried to offer the crown price of King Rama V, his brother, that if he cooperate TL would be devide into 3 parts. 1 to the Prince, 1 to the King and 1 to the English.. The attempt was failed, partly, to the intervention of the most powerful lord of that time Somdet Chaopraya Mahasrisyriyayong, one ancestor of Bunnag family, he strongly displayed to the price his loyalty to the King.

PS:

1. The crown prince in the event passed away by illness and the King made one of his son to be the crown prince, he passed away by illness then another son was made crown prince and he became King Rama VI.

2. However, different countries have their own reason on land ownership policy. I think foreigner can't buy land in Japan as well.

3. Actually the Thai elites ALREADY own LOT of land. Allowing foreigner to buy land will raise the value both in the buying and the rent, they will get benefit. It's the starter, middle class Thai business man, who will be disadvantaged in the competition.

Countries, especially the poor one, with history of colonialism threat are quick to be jumpy of the idea of foreigner owning land.

I can't remember what grade but I first heard of the sign "No dog and Chinese are allowed" in school class.

There has been talk of con/pro of the retire Japanese settlement for ages.

It can be just local business man's interest not genuine motive in the advocation but the point is surely inflamable among the Thais and no policy maker want to take a risk against mainstream sentiment for change.

Thank you !

FYI, สุนัข also literally means "The one with beautiful nail"

I don't know whัy they use this word for หมา?

Address of Tabien Ban may apperaed in other official document. If you change Tabian Ban you have to change address in other document to match it.

It's not the book of the family, it's just the book of the "address".

You can register anyone into the address. If you are registered, it mean you are the resident of such address, you vote in such district etc. You have to request the register specially for yourself. What you did is just the input of personal detail for the baby.

In fact when you marry some one you don't have to officially move into the same address

According to the news and his radio programme. Dr. Jermsak Pinthong, the ex-senetor had successfully sued the Nok Air for safety check failure at one provincial airport. The court awarded him 50,000 for his risk.

According to him the court principle dictates that other people on the same flight/ithe same case is automatically became a victim and can claim the same compensation right away. It's duty of the court to make inquiry and the defendants has to justify the charge by themselves, the victim don't have to arrange his own file.

The police don't "have to" buy their own gun. As the law allows the police to use of private gun they prefer to buy their as in many cases the officer ones are too old, outdate or not of their favorite model.

For the kind of training that you guy expats may allow yourselves to recognise, there is local ILEA Bangkok and sometimes oversea specialised training ie. explosive training in New Mexico etc.

Underpaid - Yes

Uniform - The office provides too few so most bought more out of their pockets.

ฺBig brother is watching you..

So just what is an "inactive position"? Is it considered better or worse than being relocated to a remote province?

It depends on the practical gap between two positions. For DG with Departmental folio, the Inspector of the Minister is a เด้ง although both are of level 10.

Remote province is not always the bad deal, some Customs or Police officers really love remote post.

But their bottle is RED Ei Ei..

Anyway, I heard the Yellow speaker announced that the Red Bull send them supply. If it was true it means anti Thaksin side includes another heavy eight participant with no less money to spend in whatever circle. The act could be the real siding as Mr. Chaleaw, the Red Bull owner must know that Thak. would never forget it.

I would be interested in hearing what people living in Thailand would like to see changed in the Constitution? What kinds of changes are necessary and what needs to be removed?

A Constitution that reflects Thai/Asian standards and concepts - not a Western make-over.

The final answer for 90% of TV topic !!!

...as most expat poster believe that the Thai/Asian standard, concept and culture are the root of all problems in their lives ...in Thailand.

You can used the word เด็กดอง to refer to person who has been ดอง

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This make me think of another word: เด็กโค่ง / เด็กโข่ง

= Person in certain position / state who do lesser thing / being in lesser position than what he supposed to do / be.

Literally it means person who simple has big body (grown up). So it has the sense of having less quality to match the size. It can be used in broader situation also:

ie. What a เด็กโค่ง! He has studied piano for 10 years but he just passed the grade 3.

The word ผู้ร้ายข้ามแดน is use exclusively in the case of extradition, ส่งตัวผู้ร้ายข้ามแดน

The word ข้ามแดน is used passively with the criminal. The fugitive does not ข้ามแดน by himself.

The word ผู้ร้าย in itself is unofficial (at present) except in certain word as mentioned.

Related words:

...ข้ามชาติ

ie. อาชญากรรมข้ามชาติ

Or บริษัทข้ามชาติ = Multi national cooperation

...ระหว่างประเทศ

องค์กรระหว่างประเทศ = International organisation

In the case of organisation, there seems to be no rigid rule to decide the use of ข้ามชาติ and ระหว่างประเทศ

MNC may ้has foreign branch that operate in many countries, inter. or. has the same yet it is not common to call the UN องค์กรข้ามชาติ

นทช. Thaksin...

Technically it's just the media expression,

็ำHe has to really be in jail to get the title นทช.

ผู้ต้องคำพิพากษา / ผู้กระทำความผิด Offender sentenced by the court

ผู้ต้องหา = Offender (Arrested person who has been inform by the officer of his offence)

ผู้ต้องสงสัย = Suspect (Person under investigation befor the arrest)

You can used two different words to specify different kind of fugitives

ผู้ต้องหาหลบหนี = Fugitive who fled the arrest warrant and/or has not been sentenced by the court yet

ผู้กระทำความผิดหลบหนี = Fugitive who has been sentenced by the court

Yes, yes, you see, even in such case

" เด้ง (verb). . . (slang) to be demoted to an inferior position, for example, 'He was placed in bureaucratic purgatory'."

ํYes, just FYI, the Thai gov. officer system doesn't demote personal rank (except in extreme case that I can't not think of real sample at the moment). ie. the colonel can be removed to bad position but he still is Colonel. The Departmental DG can be moved to be advisor but at the same grade etc.

So, the inferior position in this explanation generally mean position of the same rank but the bad one but not the rank demotion.

There are expressions for certain situations:

ie: The sale person at department store show you some cloth, shoes etc.

You can say:

ผมขอดูไปก่อน (Pom kor du pai korn) = I ่ีwant to look around for the moment.

ยังไม่เอาครับ (Young mai aow krub) = For now, I don't want it.