Scuddy

Kata it's great that you like to express an opinion and it's not my place to say you can't, and i wouldn't want to, but for the love of all thats sunshine and beer.......... Please read before you contradict me.

We're (including the Thai sales staff) sat here laughing as to how you can quote me and still not understand?????

We suggest that maybe you get someone else to read the posts and explain them to you.

Anyway, Merry Christmas and happy posting, looking forward to your well informed response.

Hi TCA

The engine will cope with the weight without any trouble as long as you keep it properly maintained.

The first components to show strain and wear will be the rear shocks as there is no preload adjustment!!! Without the preload adjustment the rear of the bike will continuosly bounce travellling through it's full travel of max compression and maximum extension, putting undue wear and strain on the damper and sping. We recommend to all customers to wait untill the rear shocks are blown, upward of 8000km, and replace them with aftermarket shocks equipied with preload adjustment. Check out bike accessory shops in your area.

Your next issue maybe the transmission. This will make itself kmown by a juddering sensation, not to dissimilar from a missfire, as you accelerate from a standstill. You will experience it more when applying a very light throttle as you accelerate. We see Airblades suffering this more than Nouvo Elegences. The reason being the increase in cc of the elegence means it produces more torque at lower revs. The Airblade produces it's max torque at slighly higher revs.

Before anybody says they have never had these issues blah blah blah. Some may have had, some may not have had, these are only things that you will need to watch out for and are the most common issues we deal with when bikes are put under undue stress because of carrying triple figure weights.

I think once you've taken the opportunity to reread what i've written and take note of the wording I used in prevoius posts you'll realise, after your most recent post, there's nothing more I or anybody else need to say..........

my appologies .

it's not an S-Max, it's called the Yamaha X-Max

The T-Max is NOT readily available. You can't go into any yamaha dealer in any town in any province through out LOS and ask for T-Max details let alone buy it. but if the T-Max 500 was readily avaiable it wouldn't really be the ideal machine to use for a comparison, would it? You can buy Yamaha YZF R6's in Thailand, but comparing it to the Honda CBR 150R might be stretching it a bit.... IMHO

But, you will soon be able to compare the PCX to an S-Max.

The Yamaha S-Max will be comming to a Yamaha dealer near you soon!! It will be fuel-injected single cylinder 125cc. It will have very very similar specs to the Honda PCX including a centrally positioned fuel tank to increase the underseat storage area. Exact dates for it's release, including specs and prices haven't been revealed yet!!!

The Yamaha S-Max will be added to the Yamaha range as an upmarket top end scooter to compete with the Honda PCX. It will not replace the Elegence which is an alternative to the airblade for those that feel the MX is aimed at younger buyers. It is rumoured that the MX may be replaced!!! but nothing has been confirmed.

Due to new thai legislation regarding emissions etc for new vehicles introduced in LOS, all motorcycles will have to comply to ever tightening restrictions.

ALL motorcycles will have to be fitted with catalytic converters which inturn means fuel injection as well.

From the early part of next year honda will cease to manufacture any form of scooter or motorcycle without fuel injection and catalytic converters.

Suzuki has already started to introduce fuel injection across their range of bikes. Yamaha are the only ones that haven't done so yet.

Yamaha will do shortly!!

Honda PCX??? You can't really compare the pcx to any other model from any other brand in thailand - there isn't a comparable machine available.

The pcx has been introduced to thailand and is being released as a 'global bike'. It is crossing into the territory of the maxi scooter. which is where you should be making your comparisons, as these aren't readily available here in LOS it's going to be a little difficult.

The initial bike is the pcx Prestige with all the trimmings including alarm etc. There will be a lower spec model due in a few months (for the price conscious) after the release of the new 250cc naked bike.

The engine in the pcx is not the same as installed in the sh125, it is an all new 125 with new starter technology and v belt transmission. This new engine will eventually replace the engine in the s-wing which is currently available as 125cc and 150cc.

The pcx engine will also be increased in the near future to include a 150cc as already available in the s-wing and the 2 models will be available side by side.

Honda CBR 150??? this will be replaced with a new fuel injected model to comply with the emission standards and the styling will be updated to match the currently available european spec cbr 125 r. Both the cbr 150 and cbr 125 share the same frame and supension components. So for the cbr 150 r it will be an engine swap plus styling update with cbr125 r remaining the same with some standard annual graphic/styling updates.

I've just bought the airblade B-O edition. I had an airblade previously but decide to get the new fuel injection model.

As the B-O (Black Orange) It's graphics say 'Black Street Version' and does look pretty cool. I'm glad I decided to get the fuel injection, the economy is improved along with pick up and acceleration. The top speed remains the same.

The fuel flap is now in a better position and along with 2 new lidded pockets at the front the under-seat storage has been slightly increased, this has been achieved by honda moving the airbox out from under the seat and next to the left rear foot peg, plus there is a flap that you can raise or lower to partition the under-seat storage.

While practicality wasn't No1 on my agenda the extra details are welcome.

There is a price premium compared to other fuel injected airblade models and depending on the dealer you visit the price will range from 56500 Baht to 62000 baht.

The official list price from honda is now 62,000 baht, but dealers do give discounts!!

I traded my old bike back to the same dealer i bought it from for 36,500 Baht (yes I could have got more if I sold it privately but it was a lot less hassle to trade in) and paid the balance for the new bike of 20,000 Baht. My bike had been fully serviced by the same dealer for the full 15,000 km's and 12 months I had it. This put me in a good position when it came to trading in and negotiating.