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thais that are staying here are able to extend their visa for a sixth year. my husband's cousin was supposed to go home in November,the war broke out, he wanted to stay, so he got his visa extended. also, thais that were here in the far past might be able to come again from what i understand. so we are asking for a friend who had been here about 15! years ago, still remembers his israeli work crew ( some are retired already) and wants to come back.
we are in Jerusalem area so apart from the initial first weeks, its quiet here.
three younger guys from here did go back to Thailand.it seems that veteran workers who have been thru previous operations, are calmer
we have friends that were in one of the kibbutzim that was invaded. he came to stay with us for a few days, that went back to work on his kibbutz ( he has israeli citizenship for years already. its army area now but armed kibbutz members are there,kids elderly etc are evacuated.
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unfortunately Thailand is taking the middle road, due to saudi arabia et as lucrative customers, and a large muslem population. but when 'from the river to the sea' includes other countries as well, people will change their tune. israelis want Israel. islam wants everywhere. Thailand has always stayed neutral,for economic reasons not ideological reasons.
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they are still identifying bodies, body pieces, and checking footage of hamas videos that were put up on tiktok and telegram, to i.d. if taken hostage. people on my kibbutz only received notification a few days ago on confirmed deaths ,ans some possible deaths were changed to 'taken hostage'.
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except for fuel, humanitarian aide is going thru. twice our IDF opened a humanitarian corridor and the Hamas prevented their people to go thru. on humanitarian aide trucks oxygen tunnel supply equipment was found. u really think aide goes to women and children in gaza? 🤔
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btw, nowadays thai workers know exactly what awaits them here. brothers and cousins bring over family as employers like to know who is coming to them. my husband's first cousin has his visa finished in two weeks and would live to stay more. the pay is fair more ioften than not nowadays. the consulate here works better than in the past as she is actually american/ thai and super pro active, traveling all over Israel and not as inclined to HISO/ issaan bias.
there is only one main thai israeli manpower group that actually takes care of workers now, workers can change employer more easily, most employers dont withhold passports any more. living
conditions have improved.
( i am in contact with thais / israeli thais and translators etc).
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so i will answer.
yes, sirens all the time in the central southern and northern areas.
several kibbutzim ( nir oz,kfar aza, be'eri, and others) the farmers lost their land ,houses, livelihood and paperwork and are livng in hotels or dormitories including in our hotel.
,farms crops have been ruined
nir iz lost over 100 people out of 400 . beeri has been destroyed. uriim still has fields and thais are working if they want ( we have a close thai friend there).
in the north similar situation but the kibbutzim/ moshavim have not had massacres.
crops/ cows etc are getting destroyed as army doesn't allow people in to work there in north ( also same for other southern towns).
our kibbutz has sent any men women etc over age 16 and aren't in army to help with harvest of pomegranate,tomatoes,dairy cow milking and treatment.
thousands of farm and pet animals are w/o owners, treatment or place to stay.
restaurants have only started working partially ( my thai - israeli citizen - husband has gone back to haifa to work half days. nooone has money coming in. insurance and government agencies are overwhelmed AND many have minimal staff as tzav 8 emergency reserve were all called up.
my niece was in NOVA and survived ,all her friends were shot down in front of her.
our kibbutz lost friends and family.
salaries are being delayed. its is a big mess.
the consulate and thai/ israeli people here are trying to facilitate as much as possible.
none of u really know the full situation, and thai gov't is trying help as well as the israeli ambassador,from the thai side.
our friend from urim ( came to us for a few days but went back south once he felt better, after trauma) says his one employer allows any worker that doesn't want to work, to stay home.his other employer was taken captive/ missing ' Tamir Adar' from kibbutz nirrim .
keyboard warriors.
what happened wasnt basicc terrorism.
it was a pogram.
my daughter in her 39th week of pregnancy has come to live with us , sleeping in our guest room/ bombshelter and is terrified after hearing from kibbutzim about the woman who started to give birth and the hamas did a " c- section' and than shot mother and child.
we have families here as displaced people who saw/ heard their children/ patents get burnt alive etc
much of what happened has been censored in media due to privacy of survivors as bidies/ parts , including thais, nepalese etc have yet to be i.d'd.
just remember that if this happened to you in amurica ,what you all would be saying.
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charlie h . in israel and among jews all around the world we are in year 5775....
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sometimes blood transfusions are given as well... sound like some kind of tick fever to me also....
the best defense against ticks so far here in our mountain is ultra shield spray or seresta tick collar... nothing else works anymore... not sure if those are availabel in thailand but if someone can bring u, they are the best. ultra shield is not for households that have cats that lick dogs, not to be sprayed near cats. the seresta collars are great as well, but here are super expensive.
and any of the drops should be used every four weeks against ticks, every two or three months for fleas... we also use seresta collars with frontline plus for flea protection... we are rural and every household has about three dogs and we have feral cats.
in israel dog blood banks have been started, maybe someone could start in thailand if there isnt one (only large healthy dogs can be used to give blood, i paid 600 shekels for one pack of blood once for my bitch, it was sent by taxi from a city two hours away from us, donated by a great dane...) as tick fevers cause anemia which often needs the transfusions
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knomknom gve some of the best advice ive seen ; i would basically disregard most of the women hating /thai women hating contingency and their remarks...
many thai women and many women in general, turn off from sex after having kids/work/worries... long time marriage... sometimes its just a phase. sometimes it really is their way of making you decide to break up...
good luck either way...
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hahah.. in israel for 30 years so only drink nescafe or elite powdered 'coffee'... only recently have i seen those straws here, mostly for backpackers etc (mostly because it is a dairy not parve product so for many here that is difficult ) but loved them in thailand as it is impossible to speak with me before a cup of 'coffee' in the morning and it is great for when in hubby's house w/o fridge and i dont really drink real milk anyhow... totally dont like the american style of coffee (drip perculator or pod)...
and birdy cold coffee is great wish we had it here...
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have to point out that it isnt just the meat it is any part of the animal; and not just pork but any meat at all...
not a funny post, and i am going to close it. if u want to complain about lack of meat to fat content in your shopping whether it is goat pig or cow, then do it an other way....
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not sure where u all live but my issan thai husband thinks that we spoil our children here (israel- ihave three now adult children, not his)- and from what i saw in his village, up til about the age of three, children were children. from age 3-4 they became little adults, having to do things around the house, yard, etc.
as far as developing creativity, curiousity etc then yes there are cultural differences. also, depending on who is raising the child, remember that if you are working physical labour, then you probably have less patience and energy to actively work with your child; and also many parents in asia consider the school to be the educator /punisher and it is the family's duty to love/clothe/feed the child but nothing beyond that as education comes from the school. this btw is also a mid eastern attitude, i notice it among the arab school kids adn from what their parents discuss with me (they are middle class non educated workers with moderate sized families), it is the teachers who are responsible for educating the child.
as far as independance, again, cultural expectations and whose to say what way is better. frankly, all my friends here always thought that the 'american ' style of child rearing that my parents used is 'cold, too strict, not fun, puts the adult before the child' where as here the adult is expected! to put the child first, children play in the salon, go to restaraunts, go basically everyhwere and are heard and seen, and are expected to be coo'd over and petted... i should show a video of our hotel lobby on a friday check in with all the families. americans would have a fit.
my husband finds the kids here impolite to adults, dont help with housework, come and go as they please, and he says they treat their parents as throwasay objects to be used as ATM's.
so possibly we are talkig about specific social levels, certain areas, local expectations, whatever. its true hoever that the boys are more spoiled in thailand and the girls do more around the house, but i see that here also in spite of the fact that supposedly we are 'european' here, the mid eastern/arab influence still is very strong.
its true that 'good' parenting at home could give a child a head start in studies and leadership, howver, there are other aspects of childhood that are equally important, such as familial relationships, peer groups, social interactions within his/her own society. nature+nurture both equally important.
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hmmm... the fact that he thinks his mom 'is an angel' and she 'thinks he is the greatest'... well then i hear bells ringing... from other chinese /hong kong families that i know here (middle class christian actually) i understand that although he might be understanding now but when u have children, there maybe much more interferance and 'bowing down' to parental (mother) wishes... chinese moms are similar it seems to what we in israel call 'polish mothers' - the world revolves around their children especially the son/first born, and they are also demanding and controlling ... not to say this family is that way but culture doesn make a difference especially if u will be living close by, and when there are grandkids nearby... for the thai chinese the status and 'nationality' are both important, but as boo pointed out, dress and behavior will help smooth things. the qustion is how much u will want to confrom to their style of things in the future... and how much you are willing to pressure your 'at the moment, compliant' boyfriend when reality of family pressure hits... good luck either way
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all of the above mentioned are wild animals and not pets and therefore you shouldnt be buying them even if they are for sale... a licsense is needed.
dogs and cats are beneficial; in issaan most other wild animals will not survive for long in a village as they will end up on someone's plate; if u were really homesteading then of course u would know this...
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yes she can feed the other baby also if she wants to; the more she feeds the more milk she will produce; maybe she will need an extra amount of nutrition either with vitamins or meat/veggies/calcium products if she is not able to provide them due to financial problems. at five months it is possible to start the baby eating small amounts of cooked veggies/or mashed bananas and/or forumula as well... iron is the other thing both the surrogate mom and the baby might need... women have fed other peoples babies ofr thousands of years, and i personally know of two different women who breastfed someone else's baby for long periods of time due to illness of the mother or other problem, so its perfectly acceptable...
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you can freeze colustrom : label each bottle (we stored in good quality baby bottles: label first day second day third day... thats all u need. we kept ours for about a year and farms in the surrounding area 'borrowed' from us when needed and kept so we could use whne needed. it has to be colustrom from the surrounding areas for all the antibodies to be useful... store in bottles per amount that is likely needed. do not defrost in microwave rather put in pot of water that has been boiled and is hot and let the colustrum warm up that way. do not refreeze. this is for goats, dogs, horses, humans cows. if u are worried about certain diseases like johhnes then i think the colustrom has to be pasteurized and not sure how to do that.
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Forgot to mention. ..scratch right above cakf's tail. .it will stimulate the nursing sucking refkex...every time u give her bottle feed... (bottle can be anything that u can attach ateat to. ..or do the open drench style bottle but let her nurse don't pour in like a drench...u can use electrolytes but not same time as a feed! It orevents proper absorption of the milk. Give between feeds. Make sure milk is cow temp. And not cold. Use rice water to stop scours as well. ..keep to small frequent feeds...use accurate measurements for milk powder. These are many of the culprits causing scours when hand feeding
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Thank god some reiterated what I have said. ..should be pinned here as a quote
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wont work. hubby, the cook, insists that i also eat all ... and when i mention the word FAT, he poopoo's the idea ( i am normal weighted and small ) but he insists that at my age is should eat and enjoy (52 hahah)... and when i mention salt sugar or oil he says 'farang are always afraid to die'... food should taste good and should be eaten a lot, not in tiny portions.
give it up... i always put aside a plate or so of food for my best neighbhors or my kids (in army or not living at home so come through house, i have food for them), ive tgried showing him thai sites about cholesterol and salt... its still a NO GO.
i try to eat more healthily when he isnt around to cook; or i offer to cook (italian/mexican anything spicey) and he can add all the salt he wants...
try to cook for her or cook together and keep chanting: we are only the two of us,no need to cook for an army...
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just because u received 'papers' doesnt mean u can register them either.... if he goes to register them, it may be that that breeder/puppy mill is listed or blacklisted and he wont be able to breed them, but if someone is really interested in breeding than they wouldnt buy from an unknown breeder as it is, rather buy from known kennel or known registered kennel name dogs or at least see the bitcfh and dog on the property.
most people just want the papers to be able to say they have a purebreed.
nothing wrong with a silky btw, either ... and its the shitzu group that get mixed. shtizu mixed with anything that walks and has fur sold as a shitzu... fortunately long fur and cute faces disguise most of the mixes.
like i said, there is some new site that does dna testing for breeds, and yorkies are on their 'checkable' list, back for three generations or something along those lines if it is super important... but when buying any animal
CAVEAT EMPTOR...
even micro chips /numbers can be written up on a litter with a few pups from a '-uck and run' litter mixed in; papers get switched all the time, i know many in the israeli dog world and lo and behold, papers are shuffled .... so no reason to think that it doesnt happen in thailand...
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a pom yorki mix is actually one of the new 'tailor made' types that everyone here at least is dying to get ahold of...
you have them. keep them. im sure they're cute and fluffy... if u arent showing them, then it most likely doesnt really matter as if they look mostly yorki'ish noone in the real world will most likekly notice. only show or dog knowlegable people might.
when buying dogs, caveat emptor. if u dont see teh mother with the litter and a pic of the mother being bred with the male, then you will never know. as it is, many time someone breeds and a strange male gets in and has his way and one or two pups are from a separate father. u can also order dna testing for yorkies... i recently came across some site that does that for breeders, if its super important.
as far as money... goner. especially if its a back street or puppy mill breeder
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if its a male, then try not to use a bottle too long, try to move him to a pan/bowl/bucket for milk feeding. a friendly male is a danger later. u can get colustrum from another cow in the same are u live, even if is a day or so before your calf was born. the first four days are the important ones.after that, its a gamble on the calf's life.... (lack of immunity/lots of illness and a money eater)... for rumen, u can try to steal from another cow (when the calf is a bit older ) and 'implant' in the calf (give it to him to eat)... with goats its easier to 'steal ' cud...or u can buy rumen starter (thru internet, not sure if goes to thailand, but maybe some larger farm would have)... also, by letting the calf eat with other cows, might get some of the good bacterias just from the feeding area (like if u give pellet food)... to develop also the rumen as someone else mentioned, u can start earlier then most calves would wean , by placed some cow feed pellets/starter feed in the calf's mouth... but watch out for scours (the runs. comes from bottle feeding/bad sanitation from the bottle/poor immune system/digestive problems.)
again, not sure if there is calf dry milk formula but even that , when not given properly, can cause scours. read the directions well, and dont try to give more then is written causing scours, (or less, as then u will have a FAILURE TO THRIVE calf)
ahve fun.
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Personally I think it is a good thread. I would love to know what thais ask about us foreign ers. Btw im in israel 30years 3kids blabla and people still ask me why I'm here and why Americans do suvh n such or why I eat meat at dinner? And not tomatoes and cucumbers and white cheese for breakfast...its fun to hear what others 'gossip' about us ....
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can u move to personal messages please if the dog will be rehomed and u want to continue to converse...tnx
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Miraculous escape from Gaza hellfire: Thai worker’s astonishing tale of survival
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you all forgot about the thai workers in all the argument. btw we all were involved in finding translators, people to visit them,the thai consulate and israeli offices were in personal contact and a thai speaking israeli psychiatrist, as well as a monk.