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  1. 27 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

    I don't think so. Across the channel the British people have succeeded in gaining self determination, and have already demonstrated fair treatment for EU citizens living in the UK. 

    The Belgians however are angry that the EU is in danger of imploding now. The EU project put Belgium on the map. Before the Brussels cartel existed, all Belgium had was mussels and chips (which are delicious by the way ????)

    They have those small chocolate pyramids with Raspberry filling. Can't remember the address now but...

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  2. 1 minute ago, AlexRich said:

    It’s a pity you didn’t explain that to the three Chinese people covered in blankets on the floor of a Wuhan hospital ... it would have made them feel reassured just before they collapsed and died.

     

    i don’t believe the numbers coming out of China, this virus is highly contagious and has killed more people than the CCP are letting on.

    I think your post above is despicable. It's not even worth replying to your so called arguments. Lowest I've seen on here for a long time, to be fair.

     

     

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  3. 1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

    Scotland has no deficit. It receives a block grant from Westminster and allocates that to the services needed in Scotland.

    The deficit you speak of is money spent by Westminster and allocated to Scotland by Westminster.

     

    But you already knew this because it has been explained to you many, many times.

     

    Odd that you failed once again to address any of my other points in my post.

     

    All you guys have is slogans. "What about the GERS" being your personal favourite.

    We simply have to agree to disagree on whether there's a deficit or not. 

  4. 38 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

    The GERS figures are produced predominately by Westminster and Whitehall.

    The Scottish government has to publish them by law. Yes thats right. The Scottish government has to publish figures it knows to be wrong because the Westminster parliament says they must.

    Now the figures have been debunked literally hundreds of times. Just google it. Monies from oil revenue and VAT are not included. Goods which pass through English ports are not classed as Scottish. We are billed a population share of stuff like HS2, Crossrail and Hinkley Point. Stuff that is nowhere near Scotland. Indeed the Westminster government has a list containing hundreds of projects (most of which will never see the light of day) but Scotland still gets a theoretical 10% cost for each one. It also includes pension payments. Now Westminster is duty bound to keep making those payments to Scottish pensioners even after independence. Because thats the scheme they paid into.

    Do you see where I'm going with this?

    The GERS figures are deliberately missleading. They are a fabrication. They in no way reflect Scotlands economy.

     

    But even if the figures were true. How is that an endorsement for allowing Westminster to continue running our affairs? If they are running Scotland so badly why should we continue to let them do so?

    And if Scotland was REALLY costing England money do you think the Conservatives would want to keep Scotland in the union? No chance.

    They would be trying to sell us off to Trump. 

    You can keep ignoring that Scotland has a 7% deficit (of GDP). Compare this to the 1% deficit for the rest of the UK. Those numbers includes the alleged (and famous) scottish oil and gas revenue. 

     

    Financially, Scotland is a wreck. In all fairness, you're slightly better off than Greece, which is a positive...so tally-ho off you go!

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  5. 1 hour ago, sandyf said:

    No problem with that, as long as you repay the north sea revenue that Maggie T gave away.

    You only have to look at Norway to see how Westminster screwed things up.

     

    When the North Sea was providing maximum income, Thatcher's chancellor, Nigel Lawson slashed income and other direct taxes, especially for the rich. The top rate of tax came down from 60p in the pound to just 40p by 1988. He also reduced the basic rate of income tax; but the poor wouldn't have seen much of those pounds in their pockets, as, thanks to the Tories, they were paying more VAT.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/13/north-sea-oil-money-uk-norwegians-fund

    So, you are referring to an article covering a paper where it is concluded that each UK citizen could have had £13,000 in a pension fund in case the UK government HAD set aside oil and gas revenue?

     

    May I remind you that using that very same principle, this time based on tax expenditure per person in Scotland each year, that each UK-citizen would have had £70,000 in a pension fund had we saved the difference between what is spent on each citizen in the rest of the Union (except Northern Ireland).

    https://fullfact.org/economy/scotland-england-public-services-spending/

     

    The way I see it, you can just hand back the difference before you leave. £57,000 per jock. 

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