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27 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:
I don't think so. Across the channel the British people have succeeded in gaining self determination, and have already demonstrated fair treatment for EU citizens living in the UK.
The Belgians however are angry that the EU is in danger of imploding now. The EU project put Belgium on the map. Before the Brussels cartel existed, all Belgium had was mussels and chips (which are delicious by the way ????)
They have those small chocolate pyramids with Raspberry filling. Can't remember the address now but...
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29 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:You will also have to go in the general line not the expedited EU line.
If you are driving there will be more requirements.
If you bring your mobile phone you will have to be careful since you could be hit by exorbitant charges.
Oh no, we're all doomed. F-g he**, we have to adhere to the same rules that applies to driving in countries outside EU. Like Thailand. Oh nooo.....
And the mobile phone....
And I have to stand in a different line every time I travel to Romania? F-g he**...
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2 hours ago, PoorSucker said:
9. Super gonorrhea outbreaks in UK.
Tomorrow...
We're all f-d...?
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1 minute ago, david555 said:sometimes British humor pass my understanding ….
No worries, I'll help you out.
1. You get beat.
2. You don't realise you've been beat.
3. You get beat again.
4. You still don't realise you've been beat.
5. You get mocked for not realising you've been beat.
6. You get beat again.
7. You still don't get it and instead claim that you've won.
Believe me, it's funny as he**, we're laughing our <deleted> off...
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9 minutes ago, david555 said:
11 month's of laughter coming .....promise......next monday probably first batch after both sides at same time on their media go announce their negotiation drafts .... ????
Goodness me...don't tell me you'll bite my legs off?
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2 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:I think you know fine well that every one of your first seven points is either a vast exaggeration or over-simplification of the concerns about what might have happened if we had crashed out of the EU with no deal (which would also have meant no transition arrangement). The last two though, are just completely made up.
As others have already pointed out, we have now entered a one year transition period during which - at least to start with, nothing really changes. Whether or not (and to what extent) some of the other concerns might materialise now depends on what the final, long-term deal consists of.
They're made up? Where have you been living for the past couple of years? Isolated in Antarctica? In a mine shaft 20,000 feet below? On Mars?
Everything on that list are legitimate claims from whining remainers. The financial crash was due the day after the referendum in case the leave side won.
Now, granted the "28 days later" parodies where kind of daft, nevertheless, I think we can safely assume they weren't products of any Brexit campaigners. As for the super gonorrhea outbreaks, I kind of agree with you; it sounds so bizarre you'd think it's not true, but...
I have to give it to you remainers, though, you certainly know how to entertain! Keep the laughs coming!
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32 minutes ago, SheungWan said:Just as no-deal exit Brexit collapsed and a deal was made with the EU, the markets are expecting a trade deal to be made between the UK and the EU by the end of any transitional period whether the end of this year or further on. All the rest is sabre-rattling for the rest of the year, particularly from the no-deal Brexiteers who still fancy the idea of driving off the cliff.
Then self-combustion.
And holes in all your socks.
Super gonorrhea outbreaks.
Got it.
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1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:All that Johnson needs to do now is deliver the ‘post-Brexit’ prosperity and glowing future the Brexit campaign promised.
A word of caution on that: There is nothing more politically dangerous than a failure to deliver on expectations of improvement.
Sounds like you're onto something new here...I'll make sure that our political leaders are aware of that during the next GE campaign. Top tip, if you ask me...
The political version of Jacob Marley:
"Boohoooo....a word of caution, leaders: There is nothing more politically dangerous than a failure to deliver on expectations of improvement. Boohoooo"
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3 minutes ago, david555 said:No other goalpost , then you are really out …..unless Boris do one of his …. changing actions ...but 31Dec. you are (normally) independent in full , free unlimited control , so it is coming …..in 11 months
It is coming...in 11 months? What else will come?
Christmas decorations tangled up?
Garden dug up?
Pipes clogged?
Youth stolen?
Milk spoiled?
Chipped tooth?
Babies woken up at three o'clock?
Spontaneous combustion?
Holes in all your socks?
Utterly deceptive twaddle speak, says I.
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6 minutes ago, david555 said:Exactly you got it right now , and even further there was a very good summary to help al people out concerning what happens and also reassurances for those 11 months for both groups in each ….territory about whatever ….But it was in The Guardian ...
So, all the nastiness kicks in Dec 31?
And when we get to Dec 31 we'll have another discussion so you can move the goalpost again. Ok.
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Just now, david555 said:You don't understand transition period ?Nothing change only that officially the British left the assembly and officials you are out of E.U. but still complying like any day before until 31 December 2020 , so don't worry al stays working
All you put in the 9 points is only possible starting 31 December …..U.K. is like on a preview trial Independence now , it looks like ….funny...
Surprised that you as "close to Brits officials" don't understand this …(ahum ahumg...lol)
Oh, so it's not until Dec 31 the "Remainers-best-arguments-list" kicks in?
Ok. Got ya.
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Well, I guess we've finally arrived at B-Day. If remainers are to be believed, beginning at midnight, we can expect the following:
1. No international flights will be able to land in the UK
2. Immediate shortage of medicines
3. Immediate food shortage resulting in mass starvation
4. Riots, looting and political turmoil
5. Financial collapse and stock market crash
6. All European citizens kicked out of the country, effective immediately (especially the non-white ones)
7. Chaos at our borders
8. Streets of London will be deserted
9. Super gonorrhea outbreaks in UK
And Brexiteers are the ones being compared to "The People's Front of Judea"...?
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Here's a handy link for those of you that find WHO a credible source of stats:
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/situation-reports
According to WHO, there are 7880 confirmed cases and 170 deaths as of Jan 30. Interestingly, there are no deaths yet outside China (likely to change).
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2 minutes ago, Sticky Wicket said:
- 9,171 confirmed #coronavirus cases worldwide
- 12,167 suspected cases
- 213 deaths
- 1,476 in serious/critical condition
- 150 treated and released
- all regions of #China reporting cases
- 23 territories reporting cases
Where do you get the data from? WHO?
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1 minute ago, AlexRich said:
It’s a pity you didn’t explain that to the three Chinese people covered in blankets on the floor of a Wuhan hospital ... it would have made them feel reassured just before they collapsed and died.
i don’t believe the numbers coming out of China, this virus is highly contagious and has killed more people than the CCP are letting on.
I think your post above is despicable. It's not even worth replying to your so called arguments. Lowest I've seen on here for a long time, to be fair.
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1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:
Scotland has no deficit. It receives a block grant from Westminster and allocates that to the services needed in Scotland.
The deficit you speak of is money spent by Westminster and allocated to Scotland by Westminster.
But you already knew this because it has been explained to you many, many times.
Odd that you failed once again to address any of my other points in my post.
All you guys have is slogans. "What about the GERS" being your personal favourite.
We simply have to agree to disagree on whether there's a deficit or not.
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2 minutes ago, TheDark said:
So it's rather futile to say that Scotland can't make a life on her own.
Did anyone say that? Name him...
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38 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:
The GERS figures are produced predominately by Westminster and Whitehall.
The Scottish government has to publish them by law. Yes thats right. The Scottish government has to publish figures it knows to be wrong because the Westminster parliament says they must.
Now the figures have been debunked literally hundreds of times. Just google it. Monies from oil revenue and VAT are not included. Goods which pass through English ports are not classed as Scottish. We are billed a population share of stuff like HS2, Crossrail and Hinkley Point. Stuff that is nowhere near Scotland. Indeed the Westminster government has a list containing hundreds of projects (most of which will never see the light of day) but Scotland still gets a theoretical 10% cost for each one. It also includes pension payments. Now Westminster is duty bound to keep making those payments to Scottish pensioners even after independence. Because thats the scheme they paid into.
Do you see where I'm going with this?
The GERS figures are deliberately missleading. They are a fabrication. They in no way reflect Scotlands economy.
But even if the figures were true. How is that an endorsement for allowing Westminster to continue running our affairs? If they are running Scotland so badly why should we continue to let them do so?
And if Scotland was REALLY costing England money do you think the Conservatives would want to keep Scotland in the union? No chance.
They would be trying to sell us off to Trump.
You can keep ignoring that Scotland has a 7% deficit (of GDP). Compare this to the 1% deficit for the rest of the UK. Those numbers includes the alleged (and famous) scottish oil and gas revenue.
Financially, Scotland is a wreck. In all fairness, you're slightly better off than Greece, which is a positive...so tally-ho off you go!
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15 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:
Can you think of a reason why a government, which is perfectly content to allow ex service men to live and die on the streets, would resist all attempts to relinquish control of Scotland if it was such a burden to the rest of the UK?
"From a financial perspective, you're a burden"
Financial.
You missed that bit, didn't you? ????
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1 hour ago, sandyf said:Obviously a creative accountant, maybe one day you will recognise the difference between apples and oranges.
So what you're saying is that the Jocks own government recognising the difference in tax expenditure between Scotland and the rest of the UK is simply a result of "creative accounting"...? Good heavens...
https://www.gov.scot/publications/government-expenditure-revenue-scotland-gers/
You're not much for facts are you? Scotland is a great place, inhabited by friendly and sociable people. I can probably think of more reasons why I would want to live there than the other way around. But Scotland cost an absolute fortune to maintain. And that cost is - and has been for a very long time - picked up by the rest of the UK. In other words, from a financial perspective, you're a burden. Simple as that.
Sorry to be the one to break the evident news.
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4 hours ago, melvinmelvin said:
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the post you commented did not address EU or its citizens
My bad. I meant non-UK citizens.
Are they being kicked out? Burnt alive? Eaten? Forced to listen to Rick Astley hit singles...?
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9 hours ago, evadgib said:
Getting on with it...
Doh..!? I thought one of the remainers main argument was that EU citizens would be kicked out of the country on B-Day?
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1 hour ago, sandyf said:
No problem with that, as long as you repay the north sea revenue that Maggie T gave away.
You only have to look at Norway to see how Westminster screwed things up.
When the North Sea was providing maximum income, Thatcher's chancellor, Nigel Lawson slashed income and other direct taxes, especially for the rich. The top rate of tax came down from 60p in the pound to just 40p by 1988. He also reduced the basic rate of income tax; but the poor wouldn't have seen much of those pounds in their pockets, as, thanks to the Tories, they were paying more VAT.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/13/north-sea-oil-money-uk-norwegians-fund
So, you are referring to an article covering a paper where it is concluded that each UK citizen could have had £13,000 in a pension fund in case the UK government HAD set aside oil and gas revenue?
May I remind you that using that very same principle, this time based on tax expenditure per person in Scotland each year, that each UK-citizen would have had £70,000 in a pension fund had we saved the difference between what is spent on each citizen in the rest of the Union (except Northern Ireland).
https://fullfact.org/economy/scotland-england-public-services-spending/
The way I see it, you can just hand back the difference before you leave. £57,000 per jock.
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EU leaders remind Britain: No membership, no benefits
in World News
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"the Council of Europe lobbied for other European organisations to adopt the flag as a sign of European unity."
And one of the European countries just left the club. The remaining countries are united, though.
Baha, you couldn't make it up...