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Etihad does allow to set up family accounts.They also give quite or at least used to give valuable rewards after as little as one return flight from Thailand to Europe.

For sure the 150 could need a slagg too but I'd rather leave it as it is a small bike in all ways. size, cc..

Your english is fine, mine is not half the good as yours, but I do speak 3 languages quite well so i am happy with the way it is

How this bike is priced doesnt change the fact how a CBR should be.

About legal bikes... who said anything about buying illegal bikes. I am for sure not up with that.

If you are buying bikes that are, ok.... but then I think its you who should adrees that problem

PS! The CBR125 have been slagged as from the day it saw daylight in Europe for being the CBR it is. Just go on any small bike forum where young guys are comparing bikes and you'll see what they say.

Could you actually find a link to the claimed dry weight of the CBR250R with or without ABS at all? Would be interesting to see where that came from...

The web is full of sites where various weights posted are conflicting on this bike so it might weigh in on less. I would have guessed that it didnt have a dry weight of 161kg.

weight

Critics about the CBR250 is spreading like wildfire on the net in all countries. People are not impressed. I can not recall any other model from Honda that have been critizised in this large scale world wide and also before being launched.

Link from US

Thanks for the link, man! My guess would be that they must have got it wrong down under. Every other countries website giving specs states around 163kg for the non ABS version. On the power issue I've seen 19.6 kW / 8.500 min-1 once versus three times 18.7 kW / 8.500 min-1. Regarding torque they all state 22.9 / 7000 min-1. Still not a featherweight, but unless the guys in Oz were the only ones who got the weight right, then the dry weight of a stock CBR250R 2011 should actually somewhere below 150 kg.

For sure the 150 could need a slagg too but I'd rather leave it as it is a small bike in all ways. size, cc..

Your english is fine, mine is not half the good as yours, but I do speak 3 languages quite well so i am happy with the way it is

How this bike is priced doesnt change the fact how a CBR should be.

About legal bikes... who said anything about buying illegal bikes. I am for sure not up with that.

If you are buying bikes that are, ok.... but then I think its you who should adrees that problem

PS! The CBR125 have been slagged as from the day it saw daylight in Europe for being the CBR it is. Just go on any small bike forum where young guys are comparing bikes and you'll see what they say.

Could you actually find a link to the claimed dry weight of the CBR250R with or without ABS at all? Would be interesting to see where that came from...

As this is official from Honda

http://ww1.honda.co....kit/CBR250R.pdf

Do you think that Honda is wrong or lying when they in their official media information are calling it lightweight with its 161 kg dry weight?

They are are also calling it a powerful 250 with its 26hp?

Some examples for the novice biker

The 20 year old 1990 Honda CBR250RR 4 cylinder, 142 kg dry weight

2010 Honda CBR600RR 4 cylinder, 155 kg dry weight

2010 Honda GSXR600, 4 cylinder, 163 kg dry weight

2010 Suzuki GSXR750, 4 cylinder, 163kg dry weight

Okay, i will bite. The kerb/curb weight is 162kgs, also known as wet weight which is surprise, surprise different from dry weight. That makes it 7kgs lighter than the Ninja 250s wet weight of 169 kgs. The dry weight of the Ninja 250 is 155 kgs. From the figures i could find on the 2010 CBR600RR its curb/kerb/wet weight is 186 kgs. The wet weight of the 1990 Honda CBR250RR is 157 kgs. Seems the new low-budget CBR250R holds up well with the others wet weight. Or do you ride your bikes without any fluids in them?

http://www.hondanews...ec-33004c34bae8

And yes it is called advertising spin. The CBR250 even in Honda's eyes is an entry level sports bike, not a road race bike. And this is the R version, maybe they will do a lighter more powerful CBR250RR version just for you and hopefully you will have less to whinge about, but i doubt it.

You got it all wrong novice, The dry weight of all thes bikes are:

The 2011 Honda CBR250R 1 cylinder is 161 kg dry weight

The 20 year old 1990 Honda CBR250RR 4 cylinder, 142 kg dry weight

2010 Honda CBR600RR 4 cylinder, 155 kg dry weight

2010 Honda GSXR600, 4 cylinder, 163 kg dry weight

2010 Suzuki GSXR750, 4 cylinder, 163kg dry weight

Could you please tell all us novices how you arrived at the 161 kg dry weight for the CBR250R and if that is supposed to be for the regular or the ABS version? Maybe some link to back it all up even?

Based on specs supplied by Honda, the CBR250R would weigh 150 kg with an empty tank, but all other liquids in and the ABS version 154kg. Pretty sure you could shave off quite a few kg if you wanted to, especially by replacing the exhaust system.

I am not claiming to know anything better than the all knowing Everbird, but on this site CBR250R Specifications they claim 359 pounds (163 kg) kerb weight for the CBR250R and 368 pounds (167 kg) for the ABS version. Fuel tank takes about 13 liter alone, which can only mean that either the info on the site is wrong, or somebody is talking out of his arse for whatever reason.

patate frite would be the french word for this.. pommes frites would be a fried apple which is available at some fastfood joints also

Im pretty sure if you travel through india/africa/asia and ask someone for chips, if they're at all connected to the western world they'll bring you some chips and not some french fries.

Doesnt really matter though, but theres just one little place in the world that uses chips for fries and i feel that its dumb for them to assume everyone should know about them being weird

Pommes Frites

If you could read french you'd see that pommes frites is a rarely used nickname for frites.

now you just look retarded, but cool story bro

Thanks for pointing that out, although I am having serious troubles finding the part were it says that pommes frites is a rarely used term for french fries. OK, my French is far from good, but right in the first sentence to me it says something along the lines of: Les frites are also called pommes frites, patates frites and occasionally fritches en wallon...

Whenever I asked for pommes frites in France, I have always ended up with fried potato stripes and never a fried apple.

Btw, it is rather just a link to what you land on if you look up pommes frites on wikipedia.fr, than a cool story!

http://www.mcdonalds...food/index.aspx

click on calculatrice

Souper- accompagnement

I see "frites"

the only pomme i see is actual apples.

and in canada i have had a lot of fried battered fish and fries, no where was it called fish and chips. It was simply called battered fried fish with fries.

http://fr.burgerking...tion/index.html

Que diriez-vous de frites bien chaudes, dorées à point, croustillantes et délicieuses pour accompagner votre trio BK® favori? Dégustées seules, elles sont tout aussi irrésistibles. Trempez-les dans du ketchup, dans de la sauce barbecue, dans votre lait fouetté ou dans rien du tout. Qui sommes-nous pour vous juger? Savourez-les comme bon vous semble.

just went on mcdonalds.fr

they call it "frites" small or large.

The only pommes frites i saw was a sauce you could order.

Pommes Frites

Check out Travelfish.org. Unlike the Lying Planet (I still use it occasionally for basic info), Travelfish is quite up to date. For relatively little money you can download travel guides as PDF-files to keep on a computer, phone or print out. Updating those kind of guides is just a lot faster than updating a printed travel guide, featuring outdated info by the time it goes into printing.

Actually those PDF-guides seems to be free now and they also have iPhone Apps. Been a while since I last checked out this site.

I cannot find any download travel guides option on the website travel fish. It though has a iphone apps section but unfortunately, I haven't got myself an iphone yet. COuld u help me with the download link if its cheap, I would like to buy it

Thanks

G

If you click on the "Free Guides" button just next to the "iPhone Apps" Button, it will give you more info. They used to sell those guides for few dollar before, but now they appear to be free of charge.

The main info right from the website:

So how do I make me some guides?

Login and go to the Member Centre. You'll see the Free Guide section in the left column and you should be able to figure it out from there.

Check out Travelfish.org. Unlike the Lying Planet (I still use it occasionally for basic info), Travelfish is quite up to date. For relatively little money you can download travel guides as PDF-files to keep on a computer, phone or print out. Updating those kind of guides is just a lot faster than updating a printed travel guide, featuring outdated info by the time it goes into printing.

Actually those PDF-guides seems to be free now and they also have iPhone Apps. Been a while since I last checked out this site.

Reminds me of those penguins in Madagascar: "Just smile and wave boys - just smile and wave!".

Here are some links with bigger pictures matching the CBR250 on the picture posted by LOSHonda:

http://indianmotosblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Honda-CBR-250R.jpg

http://img832.imageshack.us/i/2011cbr.jpg/

http://img412.imageshack.us/i/2011cbr1.jpg/

http://img243.imageshack.us/i/2011cbr1001.jpg/

http://img189.imageshack.us/i/2011cbr1002.jpg/

http://img408.imageshack.us/i/2011cbr1003.jpg/

http://img692.imageshack.us/i/2011cbr1004.jpg/

http://img546.imageshack.us/i/2011cbr1005.jpg/

I found some other scans of a Japanese Magazine with different pics, but just cannot find them any more.

Do you understand the concept of pipe resonance loss, and why you lose velocity with thin walled materials do to vibration?

whats the point of a lighter exhaust if it makes less power?...whats the point of your exhaust constantly cracking do to thin materials and sprouting exhaust leaks?

As far as the bluebird goes, as you quoted yourself ... "It is better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and resolve all doubt..."

Here's another fact you wont be able to comprehend, because an ape's brain just can't handle it. The Japanese spec Bluebird SSS exhaust system uses 'square' tubing, tapered down.

Maybe you'd like to explain why there has to be a balance between velocity and volume, you have a shop so you should know, unless you simply enjoy screwing your customers with systems that don't work.

No one has yet to step up and say explicitly that an aftermarket exhaust for the CBR 150 has shown gains.

Wow, so that is the mighty Japanese spec Bluebird SSS? I would have to admit, it is not that nice at all!

The massive weapons cache's suddenly being found by government sources defies belief. I followed the SWAT team through the temple with two dogs. There was a third dog working in a separate part of the temple. I watched the SWAT team check every monks quarters and clear them. I watched them clear each part of the temple. By the time the temple had been declared "cleared" they had found a bucket of slingshots, and a handful of ping-pong "bombs" and fire crackers.

By the time I left the temple they had had not searched the well though and it is claimed some munitions were found there. As to that point I cannot comment as I did not look in the well.

However, having also searched very thoroughly prior to the SWAT team arriving I am amazed at the hundreds of rounds of linked ammunition claimed to have been found.

Personally I saw handguns on two occasions - once at San Liame Din Daeng in the hands of local hoons and once at Lumphini Park in the hands of a black suited red-shirts guard.

The vast majority of the "arts and crafts" munitions displayed by CRES is designed for machine guns. The red-shirts had no machine guns. It should noted that the ammunition displayed shows every fifth round as being a tracer round.

I also very thoroughly searched the backstage area on Wednesday night prior to the army arriving (did not arrive until Thursday afternoon) and found no weapons or munitions of any kind. My search included the leaders rest room, the VIP area and under the stage.

During the army advance into the red-shirt protest area I spent considerable time at Sarasin Rd. There were no sounds of machine gun fire or M79 or M67 grenades exploding. During the military advance I only once saw a person with a handgun (as noted above). I also walked through and inspected many of the tents along Rajadmiri Road leading back to the stage and found only a few shell casings in the medical tent at Sarasin Rd. The casing indicated they were from the Thai Army comprising 5.56mm rounds and the distinctive opaque 00-buckshot cartridges being used.

While I won't say the red-shirts did not have any weapons, the great lie being told by the Thai government now should be recognized for what it is.

Would you not think that the fact that those weapons were found a few days after the rally was over could indicate the possibility that they were actually hidden a bit better than your searching skills? If you hide an arsenal like this somewhere you would probably make an effort to do so and not hide it in a location where any half eager press dude could find them easily. I mean hey, you did not even bother to look in the well...

I find it convenient that all these weapons of mass destruction were found.

Has anyone wondered why they were not used?

Smells a bit fishy.

Please read my post above. The article quoted was from an independent Asean online newspaper and which quotes former members of Thaksin's regime. I would believe them rather than some farang who has just come out of the woodwork.

Very few soldiers were shot!

There is no official record detailing the cause of soldiers injuries.

Why? because the report would clearly show all injuries were caused either by "friendly fire" or the result of normal crowd control.

The Thai army murdered over 100 of their own people.

Thats a fact!

I'd rather say that so called fact is a bunch of bullshit, mate!

There were casualties and some of them must have been shot by the military. What else were they supposed to do when being shot at? The people who were there by choice and got shot had it coming, sorry! It was not a peaceful protest at all! I am very sorry for those poor souls who believed all the crap they were told and got hurt along the way. I would be very sorry if you were one of those casualties, unless you were actually one of those feeding bullshit and getting people in the line of fire thinking they were fighting for democracy, freedom etc.. Absolutely shameless lies, that could not be further from the truth!

You won't see the army clearing the protesters anytime soon. Their previous attempt on April 10 was a failure for them and the reds finest hour. It gave them the attention they were craving and the opportunity to violently attack the army. Since that time we have clearly seen that this is not a peaceful movement. They sit behind barricades sharpening spears calling for blood from their stage. When they aren't busy trying to intimidate the PM or those who live and work in the neighborhood they intimidate their own to keep them in line. Without another violent clash with the government they will run out of steam eventually. They can no longer leave their main base in large numbers and they've dropped their signature red to hide their dwindling numbers. The PM seems willing to let them implode on their own. One the imminent crackdown they claimed was coming doesn't appear they will come up with another set of lies to tell their congregation. They will claim victory and that they've scared the PM, make more threats, and look more crazy.

(I said that they would make more threats, Nation TV has received a bomb threat this afternoon)

Red shirts violently attacking the army on the 10th April ?

Any footage ?

Seems instead that it was the army shooting live ammo at the reds

http://www.france24.com/en/20100411-exclus...-thailand-crack

You forgot all this footage. Maybe just an honest mistake on your side or have you really never seen those clips before?

http://clipnabber.com/video/ztF6hUryt88-th...in-bangkok.html

http://clipnabber.com/video/c7oKenp6ZLw-79.html

http://clipnabber.com/video/NnLf0GgYTu4-boom.html

Because they (the Red Shirts) are ignorant and not capable of rational thinking or behavior. These people have low self esteems and little if any education

the avg. Red Shirt has no idea what "democracy" is nor can they spell it. Not 1 in 100 can even carry on a conversation in English. Burma - friends of Thaksin - decide to take Thailand. Thailand would lose the war in a week.

Assuming as you say the Red shirts are uneducated, ignorant and can't speak English do you think they should be allowed to vote at all? I ask because even the ignorant in western countries have equal voting rights with intellectuals, phds, generals ...

In my opinion they should be allowed to vote, but to make that vote meaningful at all, a serious effort to have free votes (e.g. cabins ensuring secret votes), curbing vote buying and ensuring that parties call campaign equally without intimidation or harm to health/life of the campaigners should be made. At the moment I just do not see how that is supposed to happen.

Regarding the equal vote of educated and uneducated, reasonable and unreasonable people, they are all allowed to vote on parties/politicians, but on some issues they will never be allowed to have a say. In many western countries you would no doubt have the death sentence reinstalled or executed far more often where it exists, if the general public had a say in that matter. Even if the majority of Thai people would vote for Thaksin coming back and being in charge with all the cases dropped, which I do not believe for one second is the case, it would still be completely illegal and basically the whole state order would have to be rearranged first, starting by abolishing the judiciary.

Reds fighting for true democracy my arse!

The army went generally went in with riot shields and batons, backed up by water cannons and rubber bullets and live ammunition as a last resort for self defense.

You indeed need to watch Red Channel and see what was really going on.

Tank, machine gun, rifle, sniper, heavy armed troops etc.

So many Reds were going to die unless those Ronin striked back. Lucky for them.

Gov troops didn't withdraw because Reds died. But their commanders were bombed so badly.

Took them quite some time to edit the footage making it look like that, didn't it? Same like with that audiotape trying to make people believe Abhisit instructed soldiers last year's Songkran to kill red shirts...

They went in against "peaceful" demonstrators, who had petrol bombs, grenades, machine guns and high powered rifles. Because of that, the red leaders should be taking a lot of the blame for these deaths.

No machine guns or high power rifles on red side except what was left behind by the military. They only responded when attacked by the military - last reported they were dancing/singing in the streets prior to all the mayhem. Rocks/bottles/bamboo/petrol/sticks are hardly tools of an elite fighting squad.

Nice sarcasm, but maybe the wrong place for that really!

What I don't understand is why all the red supporters are putting all the blame on Abhisit (and the government and army).

The army went generally went in with riot shields and batons, backed up by water cannons and rubber bullets and live ammunition as a last resort for self defense.

They went in against "peaceful" demonstrators, who had petrol bombs, grenades, machine guns and high powered rifles. Because of that, the red leaders should be taking a lot of the blame for these deaths.

There could be a very logical answer to that: Because that is how it was scripted. As soon as the first people succumbed to gun shot wounds, they were dragged on the stage and Abhisit was called a murderer, who had instructed the army to kill protesters in an attempt to disperse the crowd, even if it is clear to a complete moron that such a thing would be the most stupid thing to do ever! The peaceful protests were bringing them nowhere, that's why they had to get more and more aggressive, storming parliament, taking over Thaicom and so on to finally get the government to crack down on them, before everybody would leave for Songkran. If it was people directly linked to the red shirts like Seh Daengs guys, a third hand like dissident soldiers or part of the operation that was supposed to clear the protesters, who shot those red supporters, might never get really come to light. But that the army was provoked and attacked with lethal weapons and did not just open fire on unarmed on peaceful protesters should be clear even to the dumbest mouth-breather out there by now. Of course, if all you hear or want to hear is the propaganda of the red demagogues, than even those guys might stand a chance to keep believing what this league of extraordinary gentlemen wants them to believe.

Abhisit should resign in the next week or so after Songkran, dissolve the house and have elections in a few months.

The only thing that would achieve is a temporary cease fire, whilst the reds are celebrating victory. Without charter amendments and a way to ensure somewhat fair election, without intimidation by the reds, greens, yellows, pinks, blues brothers, men in black and their daughters, it will not achieve any democratic order acceptable to either side. How to pull that off is the one million dollar question and there are 76 billion reasons that the big T would not be happy with anything like that.

So the question now is, what should the government do?

They're in a horrible position, with "unknown" people amongst the red shirts killing soldiers and getting red shirts killed (got in the way of the black soldier, got in the way of military fighting back, whatever), and the reds doing nothing to help the government catch the shooters or even willing to negotiate an end to the protests.

the government needs to find one of the shooters,(and do it fast before his own people kill him, on red shirt leader orders), turn him against his red leader paymasters and have him testify that he was told to shoot ordinary reds to make the army and the government look bad

the true red supporters will then kill the red leaders themselves

the rally will end, the red movement will end

Thaksin will be delivered up by one of the countries he hides out in

he will be brought back to Thailand, tried for treason and executed by firing squad

there will be new elections, Abhisit will win by a landslide

Or the reds capture one of the snipers and get him to confess to being paid by the govt to kill their own military and some reds to make the the red shirts look bad.

The govt will then resign if it hasnt already, house dissolved, Abhisit and his cohorts will be charged with treason/executed by firing squad.

there will be new elections and the red shirt supported party will win in a landslide.

That would not be that easy to pull off any longer to so with the black baklava guy or the other heavily armed guy right behind, that everyone seems to ignore, although his face is well exposed. Anyhoo, the red shirt leadership has already identified the front man as a red shirt guard who has done nothing wrong at all. Back to the drawing boards then before someone put their foot in their mouth again. All those spins will come back and bite you in the arse at one point. Once you are in it, you just have to keep it up - lie, lie, lie and then lie some more!

If the army goes on the street again, for once, military snipers should this time be used to take out the terrorists...

You should not be advocating murder on here.

LIFT UP YOUR GAME

That would be called preventing murder by taking out hostiles. Which would have happened, if the army had installed and used snipers the last time, instead of soldiers and regular mislead red sheep being taken out by this "unknown" force.

In the coming battle the winner will be who has the best video.

Jutuporn says "black clad man in Balaclava" is simply a red guard and did nothing wrong. Weapons he was carrying and seen strapped to his legs and on back (see photo) were simply picked up from soldiers who had dropped them. Oh my oh my, this is interesting.

So why were they all wearing those touch sensitive gloves?

Maybe, thanks to thoughtful government education showing dangers of contracting Hepatitis, HIV, etc. when handling potentially infectious body fluids, following the previous bloody incident initiated by the red skirts.

I'll tell who I believe stands to gain is Gneral Anupong, Prem Tinsulanonda and General Prayath.

They stand to gain by taking power away from elected politicians such as Abhisit and Thaksin and putting it in there own hands.

Well, I personally find that to be quite a bit bigger stretch, than the theory that those Ronin warriors took out some reds.

If the army really wanted to take power, they could have just done it. No need to get their own asses whooped in public repeatedly.

Also, who has been trying to incite violence for over a month pushing harder and harder? Who has been asking to take one million glass bottles to BKK, in order to fill them up and make the elite disappear from this world? There was an emergency decree out and that means there is a crack down coming! In my opinion the only option left for the Thaksin and his lackeys was blood. Last year Songkran blew up in their face and they learned their lesson. The blood throwing and voodoo rites did not bring the needed results, so they needed a big clash.

I would not be surprised though, if some soldiers would have used live ammo to retaliate after grenades and live rounds were landing amongst them. That would be almost expected I think. However, if the soldiers had gone in unprovoked and fired live ammunition in order to try and disperse the protesters, that would not only have been completely stupid, there would have been hundreds dead!

Anyway, it looks like the red leaders cannot deny any longer that the armed forces were attacked with grenades, rifles and other not so peaceful means. Seems to me there is a bit of backpedaling going on, when you compare to some earlier statements.

Sorry quick question who are the ronin warriors, I've seen this mentioned a few times but I don't really know who they are. Are these the terrorists Abhisit refered to as the third hand?

Personally I don't buy into this third hand idea, there were two armed factions on the streets saturday night shooting at each other so as a consequence lots of people got shot.

Why people come up with this idea of reds shooting reds or of a mysterious third hand I don't know.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/search/rea...p;keyword=ronin

They are a faction of the red shirts, quite different to the regular paid supporters. Hence Abhisit calls them terrorists, to distinguish between mislead regular Joe and those armed and dangerous instigators or enemies of the state.

I'll tell who I believe stands to gain is Gneral Anupong, Prem Tinsulanonda and General Prayath.

They stand to gain by taking power away from elected politicians such as Abhisit and Thaksin and putting it in there own hands.

Well, I personally find that to be quite a bit bigger stretch, than the theory that those Ronin warriors took out some reds.

If the army really wanted to take power, they could have just done it. No need to get their own asses whooped in public repeatedly.

Also, who has been trying to incite violence for over a month pushing harder and harder? Who has been asking to take one million glass bottles to BKK, in order to fill them up and make the elite disappear from this world? There was an emergency decree out and that means there is a crack down coming! In my opinion the only option left for the Thaksin and his lackeys was blood. Last year Songkran blew up in their face and they learned their lesson. The blood throwing and voodoo rites did not bring the needed results, so they needed a big clash.

I would not be surprised though, if some soldiers would have used live ammo to retaliate after grenades and live rounds were landing amongst them. That would be almost expected I think. However, if the soldiers had gone in unprovoked and fired live ammunition in order to try and disperse the protesters, that would not only have been completely stupid, there would have been hundreds dead!

Anyway, it looks like the red leaders cannot deny any longer that the armed forces were attacked with grenades, rifles and other not so peaceful means. Seems to me there is a bit of backpedaling going on, when you compare to some earlier statements.

Sorry quick question who are the ronin warriors, I've seen this mentioned a few times but I don't really know who they are. Are these the terrorists Abhisit refered to as the third hand?

Personally I don't buy into this third hand idea, there were two armed factions on the streets saturday night shooting at each other so as a consequence lots of people got shot.

Why people come up with this idea of reds shooting reds or of a mysterious third hand I don't know.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2009/12/29...on_30119360.php