southwest19 Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 so why is everyone applauding his release It is an 18 month story, so would take a lot to explain it, here in a nutshell is the story: 100 or so DSI police, TV crews etc come to Samui and arrest 1 person, then get 2 more (including Crispin who lived and worked in Samui but was in Pattaya at the time). We find out later that the DSI have taken on board a report written by an ex-business partner of Crispins which talks about drug running and money laundering on Koh Samui. That report lists 70 or so individuals and many businesses including large hotel chains and even a bank, as being party to the illegal activities. If you want to read the report, then PM me and I can direct you to it. It is totally fictitious and actually quite funny to read it ... except that it resulted in 3 arrests, one person got out after a month or so and after paying significant cash, the other 2 are still in jail, but I understand since Crispin was found innocent of all charges, he should get out later today, and Kim is likely to spend another month in jail as they found him guilty of one drugs related charge. Crispin, was a businessman on Samui with a dive operation and publishing business. He had a wife and kids, he used to ride a large motorbike and like to have a long moustache and he always appeared to be a friendly family loving guy. His friend fell out with him and with help from a Thai person who had high up contacts, managed to get Crispin arrested using his fictitious report. Crispin has spent 18 months in a Thai jail. Crispin has today been found innocent of all charges. We believe that he may come out today once all paperwork is completed. We believe he will be able to come to Samui and be with his family (although there is a small doubt about whether he could get in trouble because he technically has not got a valid visa). It has been a horrible road of pain for Crispin, we all hope that the worst is now over. uh sorry, being released is NOT being "found clear of all charges" ESPECIALLY in Thailand!!! And all you guys proclaiming his innocence?...what evidence do you actually have of that?? MOST...almost ALL of the big "businessmen" on this island...ARE crooks, and I don't mean they are merely cheating on their tax returns a smudge or occasionally speeding on the ring road. You sound like Erik. I would be very careful what you say Thailand has very strict laws on slander and libel and unless you have evidence to support what you claim then I would keep my mouth shut. Welcome home Crispin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southwest19 Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 so why is everyone applauding his release It is an 18 month story, so would take a lot to explain it, here in a nutshell is the story: 100 or so DSI police, TV crews etc come to Samui and arrest 1 person, then get 2 more (including Crispin who lived and worked in Samui but was in Pattaya at the time). We find out later that the DSI have taken on board a report written by an ex-business partner of Crispins which talks about drug running and money laundering on Koh Samui. That report lists 70 or so individuals and many businesses including large hotel chains and even a bank, as being party to the illegal activities. If you want to read the report, then PM me and I can direct you to it. It is totally fictitious and actually quite funny to read it ... except that it resulted in 3 arrests, one person got out after a month or so and after paying significant cash, the other 2 are still in jail, but I understand since Crispin was found innocent of all charges, he should get out later today, and Kim is likely to spend another month in jail as they found him guilty of one drugs related charge. Crispin, was a businessman on Samui with a dive operation and publishing business. He had a wife and kids, he used to ride a large motorbike and like to have a long moustache and he always appeared to be a friendly family loving guy. His friend fell out with him and with help from a Thai person who had high up contacts, managed to get Crispin arrested using his fictitious report. Crispin has spent 18 months in a Thai jail. Crispin has today been found innocent of all charges. We believe that he may come out today once all paperwork is completed. We believe he will be able to come to Samui and be with his family (although there is a small doubt about whether he could get in trouble because he technically has not got a valid visa). It has been a horrible road of pain for Crispin, we all hope that the worst is now over. uh sorry, being released is NOT being "found clear of all charges" ESPECIALLY in Thailand!!! And all you guys proclaiming his innocence?...what evidence do you actually have of that?? MOST...almost ALL of the big "businessmen" on this island...ARE crooks, and I don't mean they are merely cheating on their tax returns a smudge or occasionally speeding on the ring road. Also FYG Erik is being sued by a group of prominent businessman on Koh Samui for libel so if you want to join him carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeFeller Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 The Nation: 27 Dec 2007 "Bandidos" member gets 18 months A key member of the "Bandidos" criminal syndicate was Thursday sentenced to an 18-month prison term for extortion and intimidating a British businessman based in Koh Samui early last year. .... According to the Criminal Court, both Neilsen and Paton-Smith took over a bungeejumping business from Neil Patrick William, also a Bandidos member, after threatening to harm him if he revealed any information about their criminal posse. The Nation _________________ The whole DSI raid was because three Bandidos had serious problems about a bungeejumping business?? And this is called a criminal syndicate?? No gambling, money laundring, prostitution, murder, land office bribes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samui Coconut Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 "Bandidos" member gets 18 months A key member of the "Bandidos" criminal syndicate was Thursday sentenced to an 18-month prison term for extortion and intimidating a British businessman based in Koh Samui early last year. Danish national Kim Lindegaard Neilsen, 36, who has already served more than 17 months while undergoing trial, and will be released after he serves the remaining sentence. He was convicted for criminal intimidation, but was acquitted of criminal conspiracy due to insufficient evidence and testimony. Forty-three-year-old Briton, Crispin John Granville PatonSmith, the second defendant and a Bandidos member, arrested in a police raid last July 2006, was also acquitted of criminal intimidation due to insufficient evidence and testimony. According to the Criminal Court, both Neilsen and Paton-Smith took over a bungeejumping business from Neil Patrick William, also a Bandidos member, after threatening to harm him if he revealed any information about their criminal posse. The Nation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorade Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 ...why was he arrested in the first place , the mib must have some sort of evidence against him in the first place. In Thailand, anybody can accuse you of anything and the police will arrest you without asking the accuser for any evidence or investigating themselves to determine whether there is any basis for the accusation other than the accuser's complaint. If after the arrest you cannot immediately prove your innocence to the police in a way that is acceptable to the police, you will remain in detention and your case is referred to a court of law. Just pray that you will never be at the receiving end of a fabricated accusation. -- Maestro Sorry but I don't believe this! If it is true there would be endless arrests in this country. "No evidence = no arrest" is one of the basics in the investigation worldwide... Who has the power to make an arrest warrant? Police or prosecutor? Claude you may not believe it. But this is exatly what has happened to Crispin. "Not Guilty" means exactly that, therefore there was no evidence which could support a guilty conviction. Well over a year in terrible conditions! It is a shameful reflection of the Thai legal system. How do you know that there are not similar cases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorade Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 so why is everyone applauding his release It is an 18 month story, so would take a lot to explain it, here in a nutshell is the story: 100 or so DSI police, TV crews etc come to Samui and arrest 1 person, then get 2 more (including Crispin who lived and worked in Samui but was in Pattaya at the time). We find out later that the DSI have taken on board a report written by an ex-business partner of Crispins which talks about drug running and money laundering on Koh Samui. That report lists 70 or so individuals and many businesses including large hotel chains and even a bank, as being party to the illegal activities. If you want to read the report, then PM me and I can direct you to it. It is totally fictitious and actually quite funny to read it ... except that it resulted in 3 arrests, one person got out after a month or so and after paying significant cash, the other 2 are still in jail, but I understand since Crispin was found innocent of all charges, he should get out later today, and Kim is likely to spend another month in jail as they found him guilty of one drugs related charge. Crispin, was a businessman on Samui with a dive operation and publishing business. He had a wife and kids, he used to ride a large motorbike and like to have a long moustache and he always appeared to be a friendly family loving guy. His friend fell out with him and with help from a Thai person who had high up contacts, managed to get Crispin arrested using his fictitious report. Crispin has spent 18 months in a Thai jail. Crispin has today been found innocent of all charges. We believe that he may come out today once all paperwork is completed. We believe he will be able to come to Samui and be with his family (although there is a small doubt about whether he could get in trouble because he technically has not got a valid visa). It has been a horrible road of pain for Crispin, we all hope that the worst is now over. uh sorry, being released is NOT being "found clear of all charges" ESPECIALLY in Thailand!!! And all you guys proclaiming his innocence?...what evidence do you actually have of that?? MOST...almost ALL of the big "businessmen" on this island...ARE crooks, and I don't mean they are merely cheating on their tax returns a smudge or occasionally speeding on the ring road. Surprised this one got past the "Mods". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuian Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 ....And all you guys proclaiming his innocence?...what evidence do you actually have of that?? MOST...almost ALL of the big "businessmen" on this island...ARE crooks, and I don't mean they are merely cheating on their tax returns a smudge or occasionally speeding on the ring road. Seems like you can read, but having difficulties to understand what you are reading! ALL charges dropped! Remember innocent till PROVEN guilty! I would love to see you, making your claims in front of the assembled samui business community! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbk Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Seems this thread has run about as long as it needs to run. //CLOSED/// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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