sbk Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Cabinet passes draft law to protect airports from intrudersBy The Nation The Cabinet on Wednesday also endorsed the draft law to protect international airports which would empower the airports' security officers to disperse intruders who are also subjected to penalties. The penalties are up to Bt10,000. Deputy Suvarnabhumi Airport director Wing Commander, Prateep Wichittoe, said that the draft law would cover all international airports across the nation. Without the law, the airports' officers have no authority to disperse the intruders and the job falls on police officers. "The law is for civil cases," he said. "Criminal cases would be handled by other laws including the anti-terrorism one." The law was proposed following the seizure of Suvarnabhumi Airport for 8 days in November and December, which severely rocked the confidence of investors and tourists. The seizure followed a similar episode witnessed by Phuket and Hat Yai airports. Source: the Nation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinthailand Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Cabinet passes draft law to protect airports from intrudersBy The Nation The Cabinet on Wednesday also endorsed the draft law to protect international airports which would empower the airports' security officers to disperse intruders who are also subjected to penalties. The penalties are up to Bt10,000. Deputy Suvarnabhumi Airport director Wing Commander, Prateep Wichittoe, said that the draft law would cover all international airports across the nation. Without the law, the airports' officers have no authority to disperse the intruders and the job falls on police officers. "The law is for civil cases," he said. "Criminal cases would be handled by other laws including the anti-terrorism one." The law was proposed following the seizure of Suvarnabhumi Airport for 8 days in November and December, which severely rocked the confidence of investors and tourists. The seizure followed a similar episode witnessed by Phuket and Hat Yai airports. Source: the Nation Fine 10000 baht. How many cans of whitewash does that buy at the current exchange rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astral Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 The fact there was no security act in place before today is appalling and the fine, ludicrous................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonthai Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 discussion just below Airport Protection Cabinet Passes Draft Law To Protect Airports From Intruders http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Airport-Prot...-D-t238671.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koo82 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 The hidden meaning is: If you are yellows, you can block airport and pay fine from 500 Baht to 10,000 Baht. If you are reds, you will celebrate Songkran and smell tear gas. Reason: the Army don't like the reds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 The hidden meaning is:If you are yellows, you can block airport and pay fine from 500 Baht to 10,000 Baht. If you are reds, you will celebrate Songkran and smell tear gas. Reason: the Army don't like the reds. No hidden meaning. They are putting in more laws to prevent EITHER side from doing this again. Now that all can see what happens when they do. We have yet to see PAD get dragged into court. But if PAD gets the same time frame Thaksin gets for his court processes, why can you bitch if it isn't fast enough? Fair play. I agree the army doesn't like the reds. But that doesn't mean the laws should NOT be strengthened either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiwatnok Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 The hidden meaning is:If you are yellows, you can block airport and pay fine from 500 Baht to 10,000 Baht. If you are reds, you will celebrate Songkran and smell tear gas. Reason: the Army don't like the reds. No hidden meaning. They are putting in more laws to prevent EITHER side from doing this again. Now that all can see what happens when they do. We have yet to see PAD get dragged into court. But if PAD gets the same time frame Thaksin gets for his court processes, why can you bitch if it isn't fast enough? Fair play. I agree the army doesn't like the reds. But that doesn't mean the laws should NOT be strengthened either. The PAD action last year was effectively another coup... and everyone knows who was behind it, who funded it, and why there was never any action taken against them.. .....but it's that "thing" that we all, thai and farang, can't talk about for fear of getting thrown in jail, despite it being completely true. the police and the army allowed the closure of the airport to take place..... if the red shirts ever try to do it, there will be a very different response. and i fear we would see a lot of bloodshed,..... just like in '92. this new law just gives them "justification" to act aggressively if something were to happen again. The PAD will never see court, and several of their senior members are now working in, or with the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 there was never any action taken against them Ever seen Oct 7 VCD? No action taken... 2 dead, 400+ injured, several severed limbs, blood everywhere. No action. Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samgrowth Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 The RED has vowed not to let this law pass. They claim that this law would allow the PAD leaders to pay a fine of up to 10,000 Baht each (which is peanut), and case closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koo82 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 The message is: go ahead to block airports because you will be fined 500 to 10,000 Baht only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 The RED has vowed not to let this law pass. They claim that this law would allow the PAD leaders to pay a fine of up to 10,000 Baht each (which is peanut), and case closed. They seem to have forgotten that they are no longer in charge. Just because they never passed any laws then doesn't mean that the government can't now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 (edited) The RED has vowed not to let this law pass. They claim that this law would allow the PAD leaders to pay a fine of up to 10,000 Baht each (which is peanut), and case closed. They seem to have forgotten that they are no longer in charge. Just because they never passed any laws then doesn't mean that the government can't now. Of course the Reds and several here are ASSUMING that this law could or would be retro active. Laws are made for the future, usually in reaction to something in the recent past, relative to passing the law. Very, VERY few laws EVER are applicable and legally used retroactively. It takes a pretty rare and devastating occurrence for that to happen. The cows are out of the barn; but you can't now make a new rule and jail the farm hand. But you can make a new rule letting the farm hand, and any to follow, know they are toast if they do it again. It is called learning from the mistakes of others, and making sure it doesn't happen again. Edited February 4, 2009 by animatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samgrowth Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 The RED has vowed not to let this law pass. They claim that this law would allow the PAD leaders to pay a fine of up to 10,000 Baht each (which is peanut), and case closed. They seem to have forgotten that they are no longer in charge. Just because they never passed any laws then doesn't mean that the government can't now. Of course the Reds and several here are ASSUMING that this law could or would be retro active. Laws are made for the future, usually in reaction to something in the recent past, relative to passing the law. Very, VERY few laws EVER are applicable and legally used retroactively. It takes a pretty rare and devastating occurrence for that to happen. The cows are out of the barn; but you can't now make a new rule and jail the farm hand. But you can make a new rule letting the farm hand, and any to follow, know they are toast if they do it again. It is called learning from the mistakes of others, and making sure it doesn't happen again. Please correct me if I am wrong. 1. PAD walks free as there is no law against protest at airport. 2. If someone wants to repeat in future, each member better be equiped with 500 to 10,000 Baht fine (if caught). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumnien Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 The PAD-Demo Party is definitely losing their very thin connection with reality. This "there was no law against storming the airport and stranding 350,000 people" story looks as ridiculous as this one, "Mr Kasit asked the Thais not to follow foreign news on this matter, adding that they should wait for the Indonesian government to finish its investigation first." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 The RED has vowed not to let this law pass. They claim that this law would allow the PAD leaders to pay a fine of up to 10,000 Baht each (which is peanut), and case closed. They seem to have forgotten that they are no longer in charge. Just because they never passed any laws then doesn't mean that the government can't now. Of course the Reds and several here are ASSUMING that this law could or would be retro active. Laws are made for the future, usually in reaction to something in the recent past, relative to passing the law. Very, VERY few laws EVER are applicable and legally used retroactively. It takes a pretty rare and devastating occurrence for that to happen. The cows are out of the barn; but you can't now make a new rule and jail the farm hand. But you can make a new rule letting the farm hand, and any to follow, know they are toast if they do it again. It is called learning from the mistakes of others, and making sure it doesn't happen again. Please correct me if I am wrong. 1. PAD walks free as there is no law against protest at airport. 2. If someone wants to repeat in future, each member better be equiped with 500 to 10,000 Baht fine (if caught). No I never said there were not applicable laws, and never said they should not be prosecuted using the existing laws, poorly defined as they seem to be. I am sure there is something, but apparently not strong enough to bother with for the rank and file PAD. The leadership already has court appearences to make, it's just they are taking the usual long time to move along. I was commenting on the fact most all laws are not retroactively enforced. Most people learn from the mistakes of others, many, if not most laws are made because the problem had been invented by man's actions and needed to be regulated in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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