millwall_fan Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 After the last couple of barrels of Guinness that each of their outlets in Chiang Mai is being supplied with (O'Malley's, Red Lion, Olde Bell, The Pub and UN Irish Pub) thats the end of Guinness (and I gather Kilkenny) in Thailand. Apparantly Diageo are removing their subsidy and Diethem the importer says that would double the price and have cancelled their contract. Unless Diageo can come up with another distributer thats the end of Guinness. (Even if they could, who'd pay 300-350 a pint?) On a separate note, Strongbow cider are pulling out of Thailand as well. Neither loss constitutes the end of the world, I know, but I thought some of you guys might like to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 It's a crying shame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 O'Malley's and The Irish Pub without Guinness!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyboy Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 doesnt sound right too good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 It's all going wrong : No guinness or cider No multichoice after May The baht at 48 to the pound Anyone have any good news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millwall_fan Posted March 5, 2010 Author Share Posted March 5, 2010 It's all going wrong : No guinness or cider No multichoice after May The baht at 48 to the pound Anyone have any good news Millwall are only one place off the play-offs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brennanstimpy Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 How can there be an Irish pub without Guinness? It hurts, it really hurts. I thought Thailand supposedly lifted tariffs on import beers this year? What happened to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millwall_fan Posted March 5, 2010 Author Share Posted March 5, 2010 They imposed new excise duties to make up for the loss of tarriff revenue. (dressed up as keeping prices up to ensure that people don't drink more - about as convincing as Gordon Brown calling his taxes on airfares 'Green Taxes'!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESmith Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Any chance of importing Burmese ABC stout duty free, under the new rules? Can buy in the duty free shop at Mae Sai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackr Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 What about the Malaysian stuff? Not the best but I thought that's what most of you guys were selling anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krakatoa Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 (edited) Another case of TIT (and that is being very kind to this 5th world country) No Guinness... No Carlsberg... No Kloster... What will be next... ? Just a bunch of 3rd rate hookers is about all that will be left !! Edited March 5, 2010 by krakatoa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHarries Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 No Guinness, No Klosters, No Carlsberg? Looks like you all are going to have to go back to drinking Watneys Red Barrel with your fish and chips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millwall_fan Posted March 5, 2010 Author Share Posted March 5, 2010 It's the Malaysian stuff htat's disappearing Jack! MESmith: I thought we'd be able to get a whole raft od Asian beers after Jan 1st including ABC and the very palatable Myanmar beer. Large Beer Lao, Anchor, Anker and Angkhor, Vietnamese beers etc etc, but no sign yet. Lot of powerful players at Inbev and Boonrawd trying their darndest to keep it our of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdnvic Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 I've learned to stomach Blackthorn, and if I look around I can find Magner's, which I much prefer to Strongbow, but will Strongbow's retreat take Magner's with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackr Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 I've learned to stomach Blackthorn, and if I look around I can find Magner's, which I much prefer to Strongbow, but will Strongbow's retreat take Magner's with it? One of the few good things to ever come out of Hereford, Strongbow; apart from the cow of course. It's the Malaysian stuff htat's disappearing Jack! MESmith: I thought we'd be able to get a whole raft od Asian beers after Jan 1st including ABC and the very palatable Myanmar beer. Large Beer Lao, Anchor, Anker and Angkhor, Vietnamese beers etc etc, but no sign yet. Lot of powerful players at Inbev and Boonrawd trying their darndest to keep it our of course! What a <deleted> state of affairs. I remember drinking the real Guinness in Phuket several years ago and it was 350 then before the Malay stuff came over. Something about the importer ripping everyone off comes to mind. The variety of beers here is becoming shockingly lame. While there are various English, German, French beers in certain supermarkets, in general at your average bar and store, the choice is Chang, Sing, Leo, or, if you're lucky, that nasty stuff Heineken. I'm partial to Tiger as it's the closest one to Carlsberg out there now, but even that is only available in certain spots and fewer 7-11s. Someone needs to boot these big Thai breweries right up the jacksy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noise Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 This subject was brought up before. I do not know if it is true or not because I have not asked the bars, pubs, etc. I only know what I have read in these postings. Saying one tax was raised to off set the loss of import duties from Asian countries doesn't justify no longer importing. Even if the new taxes made the price higher, there might still be a reduced market for it. So is there some authoritative source for the statement, "It will be removed from the market"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyboy Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 So is there some authoritative source for the statement, "It will be removed from the market"? not till the local brewery lobbyists pay up big time i would suggest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somtampet Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Jackr dont forget the SAS come out of Hereford,how dare you forget them lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somtampet Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 I've learned to stomach Blackthorn, and if I look around I can find Magner's, which I much prefer to Strongbow, but will Strongbow's retreat take Magner's with it? One of the few good things to ever come out of Hereford, Strongbow; apart from the cow of course. It's the Malaysian stuff htat's disappearing Jack! MESmith: I thought we'd be able to get a whole raft od Asian beers after Jan 1st including ABC and the very palatable Myanmar beer. Large Beer Lao, Anchor, Anker and Angkhor, Vietnamese beers etc etc, but no sign yet. Lot of powerful players at Inbev and Boonrawd trying their darndest to keep it our of course! What a <deleted> state of affairs. I remember drinking the real Guinness in Phuket several years ago and it was 350 then before the Malay stuff came over. Something about the importer ripping everyone off comes to mind. The variety of beers here is becoming shockingly lame. While there are various English, German, French beers in certain supermarkets, in general at your average bar and store, the choice is Chang, Sing, Leo, or, if you're lucky, that nasty stuff Heineken. I'm partial to Tiger as it's the closest one to Carlsberg out there now, but even that is only available in certain spots and fewer 7-11s. Someone needs to boot these big Thai breweries right up the jacksy. Dont you have sam miguel in sunny cm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basinboy Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 It's all going wrong : No guinness or cider No multichoice after May The baht at 48 to the pound Anyone have any good news Millwall are only one place off the play-offs! The baht at 48 to the pound after May...that may be good news! It could be lower Oh and Leeds United still in second place, thus avoiding play offs, more good news. Pedr, wherever she is Nan will be sad about the Guiness news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 maybe no black stuff in future but is free water still available anywhere except the red lion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyboy Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 maybe no black stuff in future but is free water still available anywhere except the red lion? love the handle, how appropiate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millwall_fan Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 This subject was brought up before. I do not know if it is true or not because I have not asked the bars, pubs, etc. I only know what I have read in these postings. Saying one tax was raised to off set the loss of import duties from Asian countries doesn't justify no longer importing. Even if the new taxes made the price higher, there might still be a reduced market for it. So is there some authoritative source for the statement, "It will be removed from the market"? Not sure how authoritative you need!: I am a publican. The rep from Diethelm came to see me at The Olde Bell on Thursday and geve me the info I have passed on to ThaiVisa members. I know the same info was passed to O'Malley's, I'm sure the same will have gone to The Pub and UN Irish. Red Lion Kevin was in Luang Prabang, but presumably whoever he left in charge was told - Kev's probably more concerned about his impending visit from the Cyper Police to bother about a small matter like the disappearance of Guinness! Of course I've only heard the gospel according to Diethelm- it maybe that Diageo have a different story: local supplier gets greedy and demands more commission? Who knows. It wouldn't be the first time! If that is the case. Diageo will re-emerge with a different ditributer in a whiles time. If they charge 350 a pint, though, I for one won't be stocking it, and I don't suppose many of my coleagues in the pub trade will either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millwall_fan Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 It's all going wrong : Millwall are only one place off the play-offs! The baht at 48 to the pound after May...that may be good news! It could be lower Oh and Leeds United still in second place, thus avoiding play offs, more good news. Pedr, wherever she is Nan will be sad about the Guiness news Ha! Ha! Nan did enjoy a Guinness and any other drink she could get hold of! Last heard of in Loei, I gather! On the football front my dear Basinboy, just recall the play-offs last May!! Too early to start crowing just yet!!! More money to be made by going up via the play-offs!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerbera Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 youre virtually omnipressant on this "forum" since taking over from the other pub. havent you got any mice stories. water stories. something to whet our appetites ps I want to order your exec cheese platter as advertised on meals on wheels at 215thb whn i come in . OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdnvic Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Jackrdont forget the SAS come out of Hereford,how dare you forget them lol I thought they were primarily based in Pattaya bars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnieTheKhwai Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 How can there be an Irish pub without Guinness? It hurts, it really hurts. I think the Irish Pub (Ratwithee Rd) didn't serve Guiness (esp. on tap) for the larger part of it's existence? Anyway, I don't drink beer, but I feel your pain. I imagine it must feel something like when Sangthip disappeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyboy Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Jackrdont forget the SAS come out of Hereford,how dare you forget them lol I thought they were primarily based in Pattaya bars? you can tell theyre sitting in there when you see the yellow hummers parked outside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaideeguy Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Guinnes pulling out of LOS???? That means no more world records here???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnieTheKhwai Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 I can see a whole separate topic on Thai World Records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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