deejah Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) thinking of leaving a teaching position not the easiest people to work for not on great terms don't want to make things worse for me don't want to make trouble or have any nasty back stabbing (which i don't put past some people there) i could give notice and quit they might not let me finish my contract who knows? i could try to get fired and possible get severance pay but i don't know how likely that is to happen and i don't want to fight for it or have people angry at me for doing that they may be planning not to renew contract anyway but not sure thought i would post and get some new/good/better ideas dont have any helpful input? then please move on without posting here Edited March 25, 2010 by deejah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Seems you are not happy there, if it is not the work but the employer start looking for a new employer today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiinasia Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Get a new job 1st and then resign giving the required notice. Dont see how you can fail if you follow the rules and be nice about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonywebster Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Just show them your opening post in this thread. If you are teaching English I am sure they will fire you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 "dont have any helpful input? then please move on without posting here" Was going to give some helpful input, then seen this comment...so guess I shall just move on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Never burn bridges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiinasia Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Never burn bridges. Yep.. because they dont burn that well... bombing makes more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traxster Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Just walk away ........Renee.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaParent Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 i could give notice and quitthey might not let me finish my contract who knows? Sorry, I'm confused. You're worried that they might not let you finish your contract if you quit? If you quit the contract is terminated. If you want to finish your contract then carry on and 1 month before it's up (or whatever the notice period is in the contract) tell them you don't want to renew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 OP is an "English" teacher, and a native English speaker is confused by his post......pity his students....LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWMcMurray Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 U\I have heard lots of horro stories from folks who are wroking as teachers here in Thailand, so I do not think the OPs concerns are completely unwarrented. I have heard cases where schools will not give year end bonuses and final months salary in they know the teacher will not return the following year... If this is the case... then in may make sense to wait until you get your final check and then tell the school you will not be coming back next yr after the "summer break". This should not cause them any problems as you should get your last check the end of the Month and school will not start to May, so you will still be giving them a one months notice to find a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeaceBlondie Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 The OP is making a post on the net. No perfection is needed. Take last month's pay. Give notice. What about the extended visa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lensta Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 Get your money first, then don't renew your contract. The owner of one school that I know of in Nonthaburi always tried to get teachers that broke contract black listed at the education department so they couldn't teach in Thailand again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejah Posted April 23, 2010 Author Share Posted April 23, 2010 the primary point is i can give notice maybe they will give me all of my pay and maybe leave with no problems the major disadvantage is no severance psychologically advantageous to quit than get fired or see if they want to fire me and maybe get severance pay maybe not maybe have other problems or issues how can i be sure to get severance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OOB Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 The OP is making a post on the net. No perfection is needed. Agreed, kind of, but basic grammar is appreciated. It is hardly surprising that the terms of employment (as a teacher lest we forget) are not favorable when the individual is barely able to string a sentence together. OP - you are choosing to leave their employment, you do not deserve severance pay, you deserve to be paid for the time you have put in. Don't be greedy and don't give yourself a bad name - leave based on the terms you agreed to in your contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBD Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Do you have any reason to think you will get severence pay? If they fire you for misconduct then certainly not. If you are on a yearly/term by term contract then they will just not renew it. I don't see why you would get severence pay either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejah Posted April 29, 2010 Author Share Posted April 29, 2010 nbd i think there is MUCH more to it than that i did a little research on severance that is one reason for the post how about this: what if they offer you a different position teaching a totally different subject and you refuse you get fired and are entitled to severance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBD Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 nbd i think there is MUCH more to it than thati did a little research on severance that is one reason for the post how about this: what if they offer you a different position teaching a totally different subject and you refuse you get fired and are entitled to severance? With the caveat that I know nothing of Thai employment law specifically, it would probably depend on the wording and duration of your contract. Most contracts include a clause saying you agree to undertake duties reasonably requested by your employer. This would probably include teaching another subject or age group within reason, though if you are employed as a primary school TEFL teacher and they are demanding you teach degree level Nuclear Physics in Thai then you might have grounds for a complaint. Secondly it depends on the duration of your contract. If you have a permanent employment c,ontract then you might be on to something if they make you redundant. Usually to be entitled to redundancy it has to be in your contract but sometimes there is a statutory requirement for redundancy payments depending on how long you have been with the company. I think in the UK it's 2 years minimum. New Zealand has no statutory requirement for redundancy payments, and I would imagine Thailand doesn't either, but could well be wrong. Most teaching contracts however are one term or one year. If yours is one of these then more than likely they will simply not renew it when it expires, and find something for you to do in the mean time. As you said in your original post that you don't want to fight for it, then I would say no severence because the only way you would get that would be proving to a tribunal that their requests were unreasonable based on your contract. Under either contract, if they fire you for misconduct you are not entitled to severence. You might be entitled to compensation if you can argue that it was unfair dismissal, but this is a fight in any country, and unless you are very fluent in Thai and have a sound knowledge of Thai law or hire a good lawyer, then this will be hard work too. If you know something more or specific to Thai law as to why you might be entitled to severence then I would be interested to hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phetaroi Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 I'll approach this from a non-Thai perspective BECAUSE you don't describe your career qualifications and where you may be going from here. The value of what I suggest may have little relevance to Thailand...but if you are a qualified teacher and may eventually seek teaching employment outside of Thailand, this may have relevance. In examining a resume when hiring teachers one of the first red flag issues I would look for was a break in service or ending a job not at the end of a school term. If I saw either of those situations, I usually wouldn't bother interviewing the person, unless we were desperate. In the few cases where I went on and interviewed the person anyway, I never heard an explanation that erased the red flag. "We just didn't see eye to eye" -- nope, I don't want to have to manage a situation with an employee who doesn't see eye-to-eye with the employer. Maybe that's not fair, but as an employer, I have many other responsibilities that require my attention, rather than taking on another potential problem. Will you need a recommendation from them? Will a future employer be able to call them via telephone or contact them via email? If you're in a living hel_l, that's one thing. If you're in an unpleasant situation, ride it out and move on at the end of the term/contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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