vcpilot Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) After having had my nouvo elegance washed in a shop, the ignition lock seems difficult to operate, it doesn't quite get stuck, but it's not far from it. I need to use unusual amount of force to get the key in and out. The key also catches an ever so slight film of some strange stuff from inside the ignition. It's not quite oil and not quite water, perhaps a mix.. This is the second time this has happened, last time the lock just healed itself after a day or two, but now i'm thinking maybe i should add something into the lock to protect it from excessive wear. Has anybody had the same problem before? Any suggestions on which product would be suitable to possibly get the water our and lubricate the lock? I read somewhere that oil based lubricants might not be a good idea, since they collect dirt later on. Edited October 17, 2011 by vcpilot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBikeBKK Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Sonax, WD40, Graphite, Molybdenum disulfide, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaifan2 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I also say a bit of WD40 .It comes in a spray can with a straw attached so you can spray right into the lock . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cali4995 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 maybe they're using some kind of pressure-washer that's working some water in there? yes, i also vote that wd40 is hard to beat and as it's sort of a clear light oil not really any dirty film to worry about. hose it in where the key goes and rotating part of lock cylinder if that viewable also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rucus7 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 You heard right, petroleum based lubricants do indeed collect dirt and grit. WD 40 should only be used in an emergency. Dry graphite is very effective also there is a graphite product that has an alcohol vehicle that will evaporate so that dirt and grit are not an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lickey Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Dip your key in some cooking oil, work it in the lock a few times, it will soon free off, why is this soap mix getting in? has the metal flap thing stuck open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS1 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 WD40 is fine, it doesn't conduct electricity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 ky jelly... you can buy a small tube at 7/11. washes out over time though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantan Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I had the same problem after leaving my nouvo elegance standing in heavy rain a while. I put some WD40 in it and it is working fine again. But of course some Sonax Mos2 or some equal thing works too. But better protect the lock from water next time before washing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lickey Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 OP, also consider that if thats what there wash does to you ignition lock, what is it doing to other parts of your bike, it gets into switch gear,wheel bearings, transmission housings via breathers, cables and electrical connecters, steering head bearings ect, to be honest, dont use that place anymore if you want to preserve your bike, Chemicals to a Thai mean right amout is ok, but more is better!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Sonax, WD40, Graphite, Molybdenum disulfide, etc Yes WD40 if Graphite is not available.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcpilot Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 Thanks for all the replies. I bought some carretex, a knock off brand similar to wd40. Sprayed it into the key (not directly into the lock) and worked the key inside the lock. Seemed to make the lock move very easily. Lickey's comment made me think about the wash shops. The one i took the bike to probably does use some kind of pressure washer to make the water enter into the ignition. Because if i understand correctly, the ignition lock should usually protected by the thing that slides aside when the key is pushed in? So do you guys usually use wash shops to clean your bikes? I can still kind of understand the wash shops situation, getting 90 baht for the job, i suppose one couldn't expect too much elbow grease for that amount. On the other hand, anyone know a good wash shop in pattaya? I used the one in soi yume (paniad chang), a bit north from carrefour, close to the evening market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TongueThaied Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Like they said, liquid lubricants will eventually gum up the works. Only graphite is suitable for locks, if you want to keep them operable for the long term. I haven't been able to find it here and had my sister send a small tube from the States. A little goes a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBikeBKK Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Thanks for all the replies. I bought some carretex, a knock off brand similar to wd40. Sprayed it into the key (not directly into the lock) and worked the key inside the lock. Seemed to make the lock move very easily. Lickey's comment made me think about the wash shops. The one i took the bike to probably does use some kind of pressure washer to make the water enter into the ignition. Because if i understand correctly, the ignition lock should usually protected by the thing that slides aside when the key is pushed in? So do you guys usually use wash shops to clean your bikes? I can still kind of understand the wash shops situation, getting 90 baht for the job, i suppose one couldn't expect too much elbow grease for that amount. On the other hand, anyone know a good wash shop in pattaya? I used the one in soi yume (paniad chang), a bit north from carrefour, close to the evening market. Find a shop that specializes in detailing bikes. They won't use a pressure washer and will wash the bike by hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikster Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 ky jelly... you can buy a small tube at 7/11. washes out over time though "Honey, why is there KY in your pocket?" "Lock was stuck" clearly a keeper, this idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Second the Dry Graphite spray - works great. I wash my bike at home, with a 65 Baht bucket and some 37 Baht car wash soap from Big C This allows me to check the bike over, see if anything need attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatcharanan Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I wash my bike at home, with a 65 Baht bucket and some 37 Baht car wash soap from Big C 65 baht??? You were robbed mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 But it was a NICE bucket !!! He-He Took my HD to a car wash once, went to the 7-11, came back and they had put some of that black gloss tire shine on the seat and grips. Was tricky staying put I tell 'Ya !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED21 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 But it was a NICE bucket !!! He-He Took my HD to a car wash once, went to the 7-11, came back and they had put some of that black gloss tire shine on the seat and grips. Was tricky staying put I tell 'Ya !!! At least it wasn't Pepsi, or Coke they rubbed on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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