McMagus Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 You are lucky ... very lucky. In Pattaya once I saw a farang running away from a motor bike shop, a Thai in hot pursuit with a bloody big knife chasing him. I expect you filled out all the third party insurance forms etc.. that you would do back in Falangland. Sorry but 800 B is cheap as chips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenervoussurgeon Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Next time go camping in your home country ,its far cheaper ,you obviously cant afford holidays abroad ,and to be honest your not really old enough to be on one by yourself ,ask mummy to send you the 800 baht or perhaps grandad can get it sent special courier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovelomsak Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I'd suggest going to the courts over this blatant rip-off. You start by making a formal complaint to the police, and hire a lawyer. Until the case gets settled your passport will be confiscated, and you will have to stay in-country. These procedures are fairly uncomplicated. Over the next couple of years you will have to occasionally show up at one hearing or another with your lawyer (and translator if you are not fluent in Thai). In the meantime you are free to enjoy the beach life. Let us know how it worked out for you (I'd guess around mid 2015) -- or just pay the 800 Baht 'cause you actually dumped a rented bike on gravel.. You explained it very well. But missed one thing. If the police feel him or his girlfriend maybe at risk to leave the country the police may have to keep both of them in jail till the case is settled. This will mean no beach time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post telldem Posted August 8, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2012 Consider yourself lucky, lesson learned and enjoy the rest of your holiday. 800 Baht is nothing...They didn't scam you. If they were, they would have charged you another 8,000 Baht for damages to their gravel. Sent from my SCH-R720 using Thaivisa Connect App 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loukelemen Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 Bah! Paid already.. Still i dont like getting scammed.... Bike wasnt even damaged but you guys are really helpful... Yes i am young 18.. Travelled a lot... Anytime i had a problem we always solved it like this... Suing and winning money in that way... Just wanted to know what the procedure would be for thailand... Thanks anyways Ciao bellisimos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeryble Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Has no-one squashed his bug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocturn Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 so is this what was meant by making newbies feel welcome? i get it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHJ Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I'd suggest going to the courts over this blatant rip-off. You start by making a formal complaint to the police, and hire a lawyer. Until the case gets settled your passport will be confiscated, and you will have to stay in-country. These procedures are fairly uncomplicated. Over the next couple of years you will have to occasionally show up at one hearing or another with your lawyer (and translator if you are not fluent in Thai). In the meantime you are free to enjoy the beach life. I wonder if anyone has used this ploy as a Visa dodge? A way of staying in the Kingdom without doing the Visa runs? Just asking like ... not suggesting like! . actually they don't confiscate your passport, you are a free man until the judgement, so the extension is provided by immigration(to be renewed every three months 1900baht) until the end of your case(the letter is written and signed by the judge). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacktrip Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Even if the damage was already there? I checked it right after the crash and was a really minor crash.. There was no damage whatsoever and the bike functioned perfectly.. 800 is still a rip off.. kind of hard to lose a bike on gravel without at least scratching some paint, don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveh Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Bah! Paid already.. Still i dont like getting scammed.... Bike wasnt even damaged but you guys are really helpful... Yes i am young 18.. Travelled a lot... Anytime i had a problem we always solved it like this... Suing and winning money in that way... Just wanted to know what the procedure would be for thailand... Thanks anyways Ciao bellisimos Wait, didn't you say the damage was already there? Now you are saying the bike wasn't even damaged? I have to side with the Thai motorcycle rental on this one. 800THB sounds like a very reasonable price to pay to repair the bike. If you think this is outrageous, see what happens when you get a flat tire on a rental car in the US....and it doesn't matter how old and worn the tire is. Dropping the bike on gravel surely caused some damage. It's tourist who refuse to own up to their responsibilities that now make it common for rental agents to keep the original passports throughout Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacktrip Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 As an aside, regarding your girlfriend. If she has cuts, please make sure she gets them tended to well as infection can happen and can take hold here pretty quickly. Antibiotics, dressing etc, be diligent. Really 100% please listen to this advice..i had a severe infection from a large scrape/cut, which took hold in no time at all, landed me in hospital on four antibiotic drips a day, had to have the wound debrided so my dam_n foot wouldnt need to be cut off, and finally weeks later, a skin graft done. Im NOT exaggerating! had something similar. no hot water, even clinic had to use bandages that stick to the wound and need to be changed several times a day, peeling skin off the wound each time preventing healing. finally got a hotel with hot water, disregarded dr's orders and soaked the sucker, threw out supplies from dr and got non-stick bandages with neosporin rather then the iodine junk they were using, wound cleaned up nicely when I stopped stripping the skin off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdee Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Thanks so much. I only wanted a few opinions... No one knows anything about legalities? You probably shouldn't have been driving the bike in the first place as I doubt you or your girlfriend have a license to drive one case closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovelomsak Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Bah! Paid already.. Still i dont like getting scammed.... Bike wasnt even damaged but you guys are really helpful... Yes i am young 18.. Travelled a lot... Anytime i had a problem we always solved it like this... Suing and winning money in that way... Just wanted to know what the procedure would be for thailand... Thanks anyways Ciao bellisimos Would it be perhaps you wanted to pay for your Thai holiday by suing? Maybe get a free trip.Paid for by a Thai motorcycle rental business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samui Coconut Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Even if the damage was already there? I checked it right after the crash and was a really minor crash.. There was no damage whatsoever and the bike functioned perfectly.. 800 is still a rip off.. Which parts of the previous posts you dont understand ?????? Pay the bill and thats it..........If I was the owner of the bike and you would be making such fuss and wasting my time I would slap you........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 The bike was old... At least a few years and had damage... I will pay the hiring fee... But 800 is steep for a 2 minute ride? Can any laws prevent the payment... Im entirely sure the damage was already there and that they are just trying to rip us off... What I would do is is hire the best lawyer in all Thailand at a very reasonable 27000baht an hour. Get him to fly to the Island your on and take it to the top. I would rather pay 300,000 in lawyer costs and go through the court system than pay 800baht for a bike my dumb friend crashed.Sheesh! tell the hotel som nom nah.Ok mai bpen rai kee nok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Are you saying they will try and do something to me? I have many people i know in thailand! At least 20 close friends.. And grandad lives across the border is an influential busisness man who might be able to help... He has been in many situations like this... I dont believe the thai people would do such a thing? Yeah, influential buisiness man is going to get involved for 800 baht. Please don't say you are British. Look lets all pass round the hat for these poor girls. I feel sorry for em. Hey girls dont go near the jet skis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 As an aside, regarding your girlfriend. If she has cuts, please make sure she gets them tended to well as infection can happen and can take hold here pretty quickly. Antibiotics, dressing etc, be diligent. Really 100% please listen to this advice..i had a severe infection from a large scrape/cut, which took hold in no time at all, landed me in hospital on four antibiotic drips a day, had to have the wound debrided so my dam_n foot wouldnt need to be cut off, and finally weeks later, a skin graft done. Im NOT exaggerating! had something similar. no hot water, even clinic had to use bandages that stick to the wound and need to be changed several times a day, peeling skin off the wound each time preventing healing. finally got a hotel with hot water, disregarded dr's orders and soaked the sucker, threw out supplies from dr and got non-stick bandages with neosporin rather then the iodine junk they were using, wound cleaned up nicely when I stopped stripping the skin off. Hey jacktrip is that pic of your avatar you in the hospital? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Even if the damage was already there? I checked it right after the crash and was a really minor crash.. There was no damage whatsoever and the bike functioned perfectly.. 800 is still a rip off.. In Bangkok 1000B for barfine! Now thats a rip off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavefloater Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Bah! Paid already.. Still i dont like getting scammed.... Bike wasnt even damaged but you guys are really helpful... Yes i am young 18.. Travelled a lot... Anytime i had a problem we always solved it like this... Suing and winning money in that way... Just wanted to know what the procedure would be for thailand... Thanks anyways Ciao bellisimos I think the next thing you should do is go to Pattaya and rent a Jet-Ski, but I'd strongly advise you to do some research beforehand. There is much information on the internet about rental rip offs in Thailand involving both motorcycles and Jet-Skis. Doing a little research about your destination (and its scams) is a good idea before arriving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Bah! Paid already.. Still i dont like getting scammed.... Bike wasnt even damaged but you guys are really helpful... Yes i am young 18.. Travelled a lot... Anytime i had a problem we always solved it like this... Suing and winning money in that way... Just wanted to know what the procedure would be for thailand... Thanks anyways Ciao bellisimos He paid already., he was just after some cash I suppose.Wrong country young man, go & exercise your con jobs somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pomthai Posted August 9, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2012 Bah! Paid already.. Still i dont like getting scammed.... Bike wasnt even damaged but you guys are really helpful... Yes i am young 18.. Travelled a lot... Anytime i had a problem we always solved it like this... Suing and winning money in that way... Just wanted to know what the procedure would be for thailand... Thanks anyways Ciao bellisimos You Sir and people like you without the "I will take personal responsibility for my own actions gene" are the exact reason everyone in the worlds' insurance premiums have sky rocketed over the past couple of decades. Especially in the UK. You brought your sense of entitlement and nanny state installed muppetry to the wrong place. Please take you con's and scams out with you. Bassed upon the impression you have made here I'd recommend you peruse it as far as possible, go back and demand your 800 baht back. Make a huge scene. I'd imagine the consequences of your actions could be quite fitting to your character. Ya might even learn something about life and becoming a decent human being. Eventually... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonarax Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 "The manager said the bike would float on water.. i think he must of lied cause the bike sunk when i drove it in the water." You might want to ask your teacher at school, about a crash course on responsibility. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Are you saying they will try and do something to me? I have many people i know in thailand! At least 20 close friends.. And grandad lives across the border is an influential busisness man who might be able to help... He has been in many situations like this... I dont believe the thai people would do such a thing? Are you for real! We are talking 800 baht!!! So you crash someones bike and want to ask an "influential businessman to help!!!! He will probably tell you to act like a responsible adult,, that you damaged someones property, pay up and think yourself lucky they are being so reasonable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draftvader Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 (edited) He has already paid, but I feel it might do this little man some good to listen to the fatherly advice he has plainly either: a. ignored b. never had To the OP, I HAVE traveled the world. I have been to enough countries to have visited one for each 4 months of your life. I learned QUICKLY to believe I was out of my depth, act accordingly and think carefully when placed in "difficult" situations. This is why I am able to sit here and offer you advice. I STRONGLY doubt I am the only person like me that has posted on this thread for you. The reason we all offered you advice was only because you asked for it. The only people to tell you to pursue your concept of justice were "taking the piss". When you are faced with the same advice coming at you again and again and again it is probably prudent to take it. I'm pretty sure I speak for us all in hoping that you have thought about what has happened, learned from it and are now happily enjoying this country, as is your right. Edited August 9, 2012 by draftvader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 since its thailand! Give them 800 and consider yourself luckie! I agree with this, you are crazy if you want to go to court over a measly Bht800. If you did'nt notice or discuss the damage before you took the bike, just put it down to "learning in life" and then remember next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Are you saying they will try and do something to me? I have many people i know in thailand! At least 20 close friends.. And grandad lives across the border is an influential busisness man who might be able to help... He has been in many situations like this... I dont believe the thai people would do such a thing? Perhaps "Grandad" will lend you the Bht 800, you sound rather desperate ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leckyman Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Do not feed the troll!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rise Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Obviously a windup from the start. Who in their right mind would think of making money after crashing a motorbike? Suing a motorbikecompany because his gf crashed the bike, that wouldnt work out in any country. It is impossible not getting any scratches if you have an accident on gravel so who cares if it had small damages before, gf made more and you have to pay. 800 bath isnt much to talk about if you are 18 either, just a windup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 since its thailand! Give them 800 and consider yourself luckie! Yes of course, and I would say too, consider yourselves lucky, in fact the motorbike maybe was not new but if your girlfriend had fallen, a motor bike cannot fall without being slightly scratched, 800 baths Is nothing more than 20 € . Personally maybe I would have asked a little more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Are you saying they will try and do something to me? I have many people i know in thailand! At least 20 close friends.. And grandad lives across the border is an influential busisness man who might be able to help... He has been in many situations like this... I dont believe the thai people would do such a thing? Troll alert Possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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