webfact Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 ALLEGED DEFAMATION OF PMMICT threat 'a rights violation'Chanikarn Phumhiran,Anuphan ChantanaThe Nation Democracy allows open criticism, rights man says on Facebook rowBANGKOK: -- Minister Anudith Nakornthap of the Ministry of Information and Communication Technology (MICT) should not overstep his authority by threatening to shut down websites that carried allegedly defamatory remarks against Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra by cartoonist Chai Rachawat on Facebook.National Human Rights commissioner Niran Pitakwatchara said yesterday such threats were a violation of basic rights of Thai citizens and that the right to criticise is a foundation of democracy. The prime minister should instead use criticism as feedback to reconsider her conduct and improve her work, Niran said, adding that if criticism were deemed false and defamatory, then the matter should be settled in the courts."The government or executive branch should not overstep its authority by forbidding the expression of views by the people in a democracy because this is akin to depriving people of basic rights," Niran said.Opposition Leader Abhisit Vejjajiva said he was surprised by MICT's threat because it came from a government that had previously insisted that the Computer Crimes Act is undemocratic. He added that some in the government were also against the lese majeste law and the crackdown on lese majeste messages on the Internet and mobile phones.Abhisit said the latest move goes against democratic principles.The MICT minister insisted that he was doing his duty and that he had the authority to do so.He urged anyone who finds offensive messages on the Internet to report them so they could be "immediately removed".He added that if the intention was to defame the prime minister, the website could be shut down and the persons responsible prosecuted under Article 326 of the Criminal Act, which could lead to one year in prison and a fine of Bt20,000.In a related development, Prime Minister's Office Minister Varathep Ratanakorn said freedom had limits stipulated by law. Similar measures have been taken in the past and the authorities will handle the matter speedily.The ministry insisted the message comparing Yingluck to a prostitute selling away Thailand was vulgar and did not constitute proper criticism.-- The Nation 2013-05-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rubl Posted May 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2013 ... and all of us red-shirt supporters thought that with the new government a new era of democracy, freedom of speech, no internet censorship , etc., etc. was upon us. How one can err. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dcutman Posted May 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2013 Does this mean TVF is getting a new Mod or getting additional help? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NongKhaiKid Posted May 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2013 The ICT minister says he will use his authority to protect anyone who is defamed but we know what he really means. Since the alleged defamation will be judged by him and his ministry and not a court the slightest criticism of Yingluck will so easily be deemed offensive and the site shutdown. We are looking at yet another massive abuse of power and typifies what this government, PTP and the reds are all about as instructed from Dubai. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post yoshiwara Posted May 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2013 ...this presumably from a minister of a cabinet which regularly kisses hands with a convicted criminal. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 The MICT would have to shut the entire Internet down to prevent anything that can cause Thailand's high status elite to lose face or stop their criminal behind closed doors affairs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurentbkk Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 when you call yourself a Democracy , you must accept all criticisms otherwise it can slowly goes to dictatorship 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxnadz Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Lulz, democracy in Thailand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Are they going to block Skype? Sent from my Phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoodMaiDai Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Are they going to block Skype? Sent from my Phone. Don't give them any ideas. They are just ignorant enough to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thait Spot Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Outrageous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Depends what they interpret as defamation, over the years I have found most Asian politicians to be thin skinned when the pressure comes on , although I see they are not afraid to defame others or issue treats etc when it suits them, in a democracy , which Thailand isn't , generally when you are in the public eye you must expect flack, that's par for the course , stopping people from making fun in cartoons or criticising issues , will eventually bring people to the conclusion that they are hiding something, which they generally are ,like incompetence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahinni Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 they like to show they r the elite, I do what like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 The MICT minister insisted that he was doing his duty and that he had the authority to do so. Just another bully with no balls in a suit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltandpepper Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Are they going to block Skype? Sent from my Phone. If so, I suggest they block Line, Whatsapp, Viber, etc......all in the name of Redmocracy of course ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rametindallas Posted May 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2013 He urged anyone who finds offensive messages on the Internet to report them so they could be "immediately removed". I find his message offensive and I want it removed NOW! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rametindallas Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 The ICT minister says he will use his authority to protect anyone who is defamed but we know what he really means. Since the alleged defamation will be judged by him and his ministry and not a court the slightest criticism of Yingluck will so easily be deemed offensive and the site shutdown. We are looking at yet another massive abuse of power and typifies what this government, PTP and the reds are all about as instructed from Dubai.We can assume the websites calling Mark and Suthep 'murderers' and 'Hitler' will not be deemed offensive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 ...this presumably from a minister of a cabinet which regularly kisses hands with a convicted criminal. Funnily enough, hands were not the part of the anatomy, which immediately sprang-to-mind, but somewhere more fundimental ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 suprised this bit of censorship hasn't come earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLew Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 does she not realize it is only a cartoon the more fuss she kicks up about it ... the longer it will stay in the news the longer it stays in the news the more chance people look into what she is actually doing the more people realize what she is or is not doing ... the more chance she is unemployed after the next election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonar6ca Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Our “beloved” leader talks about democracy in Mongolia, it seems that she has no clue what it means. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 For the last few weeks my TOT internet link regularly goes down for a few minutes. Just now typing a reply to a post it happened again. Must be pure coincidence of course. My posts are always within acceptable limits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 (edited) Are they going to block Skype? Sent from my Phone. Don't worry, because that would render them helpless. Skype is this governments livefeed line. Edited May 7, 2013 by jbrain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 For the last few weeks my TOT internet link regularly goes down for a few minutes. Just now typing a reply to a post it happened again. Must be pure coincidence of course. My posts are always within acceptable limits Do you ever notice a van with blacked out windows in front of your house ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otherstuff1957 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Are they going to block Skype? Sent from my Phone. Don't worry, because that would render them helpless. Skype is this governments livefeed line. Cutting off Skype would leave them leaderless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Soupdragon Posted May 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2013 For the last few weeks my TOT internet link regularly goes down for a few minutes. Just now typing a reply to a post it happened again. Must be pure coincidence of course. My posts are always within acceptable limits Same with my 3BB line. Up and down like a PMs drawers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCFC Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 For the last few weeks my TOT internet link regularly goes down for a few minutes. Just now typing a reply to a post it happened again. Must be pure coincidence of course. My posts are always within acceptable limits Same with my 3BB line. Up and down like a PMs drawers. Stupid and inflammatory posts like this will only bring trouble to TV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I'd love to see them try to shut down Facebook in Thailand. A real vote winner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 For the last few weeks my TOT internet link regularly goes down for a few minutes. Just now typing a reply to a post it happened again. Must be pure coincidence of course. My posts are always within acceptable limits This is good to hear , you are being watched, like all of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EyesWideOpen Posted May 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2013 (edited) So is this our last chance to make jokes about our joke prime minister before the dreaded MICT shuts down TV ?? Surely with all the junkets that the Thai political leadership takes abroad, they must have noticed all western fully developed countries have full freedom of speech, except for yelling fire inn a crowded theater. All crappy corrupt countries have almost no freedom of speech, the leadership do not want the light of truth being shown upon them while they are busy looting the country. Edited May 7, 2013 by EyesWideOpen 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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