KRS1 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) Went looking at the new Ninja 250 the other day and came across a Ninja 250 graveyard. Found it kinda funny that there were over 10 new Ninjas that were wrecked, all 2013 models. Some were totally twisted and bent up man. Hope the riders are all ok, but just had to show these photos since there were so many...There were a lot more than in these photos...I think they will be sitting there for a while until replacement parts start to drip down into the supply chain like the CBR 500. Edited June 5, 2013 by KRS1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokerkid Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 hope the owners are ok........ maybe so many 250's because they are usually bought by the younger more inexperienced riders ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Saw the same thing in 2009 with the ER6 shortly after release. That's what happens when the bike test involves riding 50 metres on a moped, turning around and riding back. If you fail, 500 baht fixes it. Then you can buy whatever bike you can afford... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS1 Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share Posted June 5, 2013 yeah i dont think they realize that handling isnt as quick as a scooter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Rentals busted up by dopey tourists? I guess you would see the same with CBR 250's out the back of the Honda dealer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 So, this was at Kawasaki dealership in Chiang Mai? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Yes that is at the dealership in Chiang Mai Was looking at the same pile a week ago. I also looked at it back in January when it was only 3 or so bikes. Talking with the owner he said mainly young guys. Get in over their heads/skills What I did have to smile at was that at that time they mainly had the blessing marks on them. You know the strings or the white marks on the wind screens. At first I thought well.........I guess that did not help but then I thought well maybe the rider walked away unharmed so maybe it did In either case this does make insurance for the N250 kind of pricey as it is graded as a group/bike Full coverage is almost 10k a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS1 Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) yes this was at the CNX dealer in the parking lot in front of the repair bays. Bung, there are no new style Ninja 250's for rent in CNX, ive looked and could not find any. Honda doesnt have a riding group in CNX i know of, Kawa has many and it puts pressure on unskilled riders to keep up. Looking at some of those gas tanks make my nuts cringe. Edited June 5, 2013 by KRS1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 yeah, that is why all the insurance rates went up this year! from click 125 to a ninja 250 is resulting this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokerkid Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Yes that is at the dealership in Chiang Mai Was looking at the same pile a week ago. I also looked at it back in January when it was only 3 or so bikes. Talking with the owner he said mainly young guys. Get in over their heads/skills What I did have to smile at was that at that time they mainly had the blessing marks on them. You know the strings or the white marks on the wind screens. At first I thought well.........I guess that did not help but then I thought well maybe the rider walked away unharmed so maybe it did In either case this does make insurance for the N250 kind of pricey as it is graded as a group/bike Full coverage is almost 10k a year those young riders revving the bike to the max thinking they are somchai rossi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salapoo Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) Yup, I remember the same when the Kawa 650's were released here. First time big bikes with big enough power were affordable to lower-middle class Thais. Thais and a shiny, new powerful toy.... dangerous combination! Will probably see the same with the CB500 series as anyone with 35k can get one. Edited June 5, 2013 by Salapoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 you can see the bike graveyard at Honda Bigwing as well and that number of damaged bikes are rising on my every visit!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokerkid Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 you can see the bike graveyard at Honda Bigwing as well and that number of damaged bikes are rising on my every visit!!! we need some pics ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salapoo Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 No wonder they're releasing these bikes in Thailand. They know that for each bike sold they'll make 20% extra in parts in the first 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 They really should include basic big bike training as a corporate responsibility before selling. After all they are all future customers as well as present customers. Sent from my i-mobile i-STYLE Q6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) They really should include basic big bike training as a corporate responsibility before selling. After all they are all future customers as well as present customers. Sent from my i-mobile i-STYLE Q6 You know it is like this all over the world. Bikes in general just have a good power to weight ratio. Actually it is a worse situation in other countries as bikes are so much cheaper & faster/bigger I use to manage a Suzuki shop many years ago. Folks would come in even then & have no clue about the power they were buying. Then they get out there & get going way too fast for their skill set. Edited June 5, 2013 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 They really should include basic big bike training as a corporate responsibility before selling. After all they are all future customers as well as present customers. Sent from my i-mobile i-STYLE Q6 You know it is like this all over the world. Bikes in general just have a good power to weight ratio. Actually it is a worse situation in other countries as bikes are so much cheaper & faster/bigger I use to manage a Suzuki shop many years ago. Folks would come in even then & have no clue about the power they were buying. Then they get out there & get going way too fast for their skill set. True. But in many countries they have a tiered bike license to try and alleviate these problems. Admittedly many of the broken bikes are actually the lower part of the tiered system But they do have better training. Sent from my i-mobile i-STYLE Q6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 True. But in many countries they have a tiered bike license to try and alleviate these problems. Admittedly many of the broken bikes are actually the lower part of the tiered system But they do have better training. True about the tiered license I am from the USA & folks can walk in & buy anything they want. Kind of scary but to be fair folks with cash can also go buy a Ferrari Like you say these are low power ( relatively ) yet still plenty capable of letting things happen very fast for new riders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phronesis Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I am not concerned about the idiots who rode any one of those bikes. I am concerned about whoever they hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I guess this is why my Triumphs insurance went up from 18000 to 22000 this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salapoo Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) I am not concerned about the idiots who rode any one of those bikes. I am concerned about whoever they hit. Perhaps they were hit while driving perfectly safely. Not everyone who suffers from a crash is responsible for it. Or do you personally adhere to the local viewpoint of 'if you not here it not happen'. Edited June 5, 2013 by Salapoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I am not concerned about the idiots who rode any one of those bikes. I am concerned about whoever they hit. Perhaps they were hit while driving perfectly safely. Not everyone who suffers from a crash is responsible for it. Or do you personally adhere to the local viewpoint of 'if you not here it not happen'. Most of the crashed bikes will belong to Thais. Sent from my i-mobile i-STYLE Q6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loptr Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Sport bikes can be fun, but they bite very hard if you get in over your head. All it takes is a lapse in judgement and a twist of the throttle and suddenly your going too fast, too soon and wind up in the land where nothing is funny. Been there, ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salapoo Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Most of the crashed bikes will belong to Thais. You must have misunderstood the post. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wong! Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I guess this is why my Triumphs insurance went up from 18000 to 22000 this year! I'll swap it for my VF750 if it makes you feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS1 Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share Posted June 5, 2013 you can see the bike graveyard at Honda Bigwing as well and that number of damaged bikes are rising on my every visit!!! ...and half of these are going to be sold after they get fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salapoo Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) you can see the bike graveyard at Honda Bigwing as well and that number of damaged bikes are rising on my every visit!!! ...and half of these are going to be sold after they get fixed If there are buyers. How low does one have to price a H500 or K650 just to sell it nowadays! 2011 N650 with 25k km can't go on bahtsold @ only 165k baht. 2012 N250 decked out with 25k baht of extras @ 105k baht. The guy on here with a new H500 can't shift it for 190k. Saturated market. Edited June 5, 2013 by Salapoo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokerkid Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 you can see the bike graveyard at Honda Bigwing as well and that number of damaged bikes are rising on my every visit!!! ...and half of these are going to be sold after they get fixed maybe you got one of those..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 you can see the bike graveyard at Honda Bigwing as well and that number of damaged bikes are rising on my every visit!!! ...and half of these are going to be sold after they get fixed If there are buyers. How low does one have to price a H500 or K650 just to sell it nowadays! 2011 N650 with 25k km can't go on bahtsold @ only 165k baht. 2012 N250 decked out with 25k baht of extras @ 105k baht. The guy on here with a new H500 can't shift it for 190k. Saturated market. Is true & somewhat a Thai deal too because of the fact Thai's dont have the lump cash & like to finance. Financing a new bike is very easy. But also in regards to the two Kawasaki's you mentioned those are both pre-big change years. The 2012 650 went to a much better dual seat look & the 2013 250 that is like a whole different bike from the 2012 The Honda 500's will be interesting to see what they fetch price wise. My guess would be 170-180k The funny thing with many sellers here is how they like to list registration & insurance costs. 2nd hand buyers dont care that you paid that & that is not something you can pass off easily. If you want insurance money ride it till it expires. Only in Thailand do I see sellers list every thing they ever did to the bike then try & get most of it back including insurance & reg heheheh The only thing worse is all the Thai's with bad financing looking for someone to take over payments + give them back their deposits. The totals on these are always higher than a new bike for gods sake 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS1 Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share Posted June 5, 2013 you can see the bike graveyard at Honda Bigwing as well and that number of damaged bikes are rising on my every visit!!! ...and half of these are going to be sold after they get fixed maybe you got one of those..... as long as the frame aint bent its all good ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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