webfact Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Detectives' new hope to finally catch killer of backpacker brutally murdered in Thailand 13 years agoKirsty Jones was raped and strangled at a guesthouse in Thailand in 2000Killer of 23-year-old, who died in Chiang Mai, has never been foundBritish detectives given access to case files by Thai authorities for first timeOfficers and Kirsty's family are hopeful the case can finally be solvedBy ANNA EDWARDSKirsty Jones, file photoLONDON: -- British detectives are hoping to finally catch the killer of a young woman brutally murdered in Thailand 13 years ago after they were given full access to the case files for the first time.Kirsty Jones, 23, was raped and strangled at a guesthouse in northern Thailand in 2000 while enjoying a gap year after university.After 13 years her killer has never been brought to justice - and Kirsty's desperate family feared the trail had gone cold.But the British detective investigating the murder said he is 'very optimistic' the case can be solved after being given full access to all files for the first time by the Thai authorities.'The DSI are in the process of reinvestigating this inquiry and we are keen to support and where possible, assist the Thai authorities.'They have done a considerable amount of work, we've seen proof of that during the visit to Thailand last year.'Kirsty's battling mum Sue Jones said the new developments have provided a boost to the family to 'keep forging on' in their fight for justice.Farmer's daughter Kirsty grew up in the village of Tredomen, near Brecon, Mid Wales.But she dreamed of seeing the world and had decided from the age of 14 that she had wanted to take a gap year before going on to university.In 1996 when she set off for Australia and stopped off in Thailand on her way home.After a safe and successful trip, the bright A-level student had fallen in love with travelling.She completed an English and media studies degree at Liverpool University in 1999 - then spent a year doing odd jobs to fund her next big trip.Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2389699/Kirsty-Jones-unsolved-Thailand-murder-new-hope-British-detectives-given-access-case-files.html-- Daily Mail 2013-08-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Justice a distant bell, rarely heard in Thailand! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 12 years later, and somebody wakes up. T.I.T. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NongKhaiKid Posted August 13, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2013 DSI are on the case, there must be a Democrat involved. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Briggsy Posted August 13, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2013 I wish they would not publish these stories. They do this every year but of course, the apprehension of the murderer is blocked by powerful interests within the police in Chiang Mai. They will not solve this case unless the UK gives a very big carrot to someone very high up in Thailand. Even then, the murderer may well enter the front door of the prison only to immediately exit the rear. There may well be an ulterior motive of the detective possibly in collaboration with the press, keeping the story in the news in the hope to keep the pressure on people in Thailand who can affect the outcome of this terrible and tragic case. Note that the source of this story is the British detective, not anyone senior in the Thai Police. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rijit Posted August 13, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) what do you expect from a country that arrests people for 'liking ' things on facebook , justice !!! justice is to the thai legal system what smiles are to Thai social system , a convenient veneer ,that more times than not, means little.or nothing . Edited August 13, 2013 by rijit 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 what do you expect from a country that arrests people for 'liking ' things on facebook , justice !!! justice is to the thai legal system what smiles are to Thai social system , a convenient veneer ,that more time than not means little.or nothing . Great Post 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 after 13 years? if they ever find the killer, their next step can be : finding maddy in portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hellodolly Posted August 13, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) Some people go out of their way to hold on to the pain. I too have lost a son to death and it took a long time to loose the pain but I did nothing to hold on to it. Even at that tears would come to my eyes at times when I thought of him after 7 years. 13 years the killer could be dead by now or perhaps doing a life time sentence. There comes a time in are lives when we much as we dislike it have to let go of the past and build are own future. Edited August 13, 2013 by hellodolly 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bakseeda Posted August 13, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2013 Some people go out of their way to hold on to the pain have lost a son to death and it took a long time to loose the pain but I did nothing to hold on to it. Even at that tears would come to my eyes at times when I thought of him after 7 years. 13 years the killer could be dead by now or perhaps doing a life time sentence. There comes a time in are lives when we much as we dislike it have to let go of the past and build are own future. Truth is if I remember correctly, that the police know who the killer is, but due to protection, that man could not be charged.. Maybe things have changed..! Maybe pigs will fly ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlandy Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Some people go out of their way to hold on to the pain. I too have lost a son to death and it took a long time to loose the pain but I did nothing to hold on to it. Even at that tears would come to my eyes at times when I thought of him after 7 years. 13 years the killer could be dead by now or perhaps doing a life time sentence. There comes a time in are lives when we much as we dislike it have to let go of the past and build are own future. Not everyone is made the same "fortunately" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bander Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Some people go out of their way to hold on to the pain have lost a son to death and it took a long time to loose the pain but I did nothing to hold on to it. Even at that tears would come to my eyes at times when I thought of him after 7 years. 13 years the killer could be dead by now or perhaps doing a life time sentence. There comes a time in are lives when we much as we dislike it have to let go of the past and build are own future. Truth is if I remember correctly, that the police know who the killer is, but due to protection, that man could not be charged.. Maybe things have changed..! Maybe pigs will fly ! Pigs will fly and Thai's will keep on killing and raping western girls who travel alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post salavan Posted August 13, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2013 why has it taken 13 years before the british police have been granted access to the case files ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virtualtraveller Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 British detective should ask the Saudi's about stonewalling. Meanwhile, a little more negative publicity mileage eeked out of this shameful incident that sticks to Thailand's 'Land of Smiles' image like a piece of dog poo on your show. Chalk that up as another own goal from our finest BIB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jaidam Posted August 13, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2013 Let's not forget the other victim in this case, poor Andy Gill who lost his guesthouse, girlfriend and life that he had worked to attain here. Victimized by the police to cover up for the murderer, who as I remember from being up in CM in 2000 was known by everybody. If I remember correctly there was DNA left behind so any real attempt to "solve" this crime will be very easy, if there is any desire at all to solve it. Feel sorry for the Welsh police as well, being dicked around for years by acquaintances of the murderer. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetley Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Some people go out of their way to hold on to the pain. I too have lost a son to death and it took a long time to loose the pain but I did nothing to hold on to it. Even at that tears would come to my eyes at times when I thought of him after 7 years. 13 years the killer could be dead by now or perhaps doing a life time sentence. There comes a time in are lives when we much as we dislike it have to let go of the past and build are own future. Was your son brutally murdered and the perpetrator helped to escape justice? Sent from my GT-I9003 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Some people go out of their way to hold on to the pain. I too have lost a son to death and it took a long time to loose the pain but I did nothing to hold on to it. Even at that tears would come to my eyes at times when I thought of him after 7 years. 13 years the killer could be dead by now or perhaps doing a life time sentence. There comes a time in are lives when we much as we dislike it have to let go of the past and build are own future. Not everyone is made the same "fortunately" I agree. I can not imagine 13 years of pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Now that some REAL police are involved, something might actually happen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nontabury Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Is't the the case were the Thai police tried to frame an English lad, by altering the DNA ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I would like to place a wager that the British police will find the culprit to be one of the Thai police suspects that was arrested and released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomash Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Murder someone in Thailand it gets brushed under the rug but if you click like on certain posting on facebooks forget it you are in big trouble!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 why has it taken 13 years before the british police have been granted access to the case files ? Because Thailand operates independently from Britain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baerboxer Posted August 13, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2013 why has it taken 13 years before the british police have been granted access to the case files ? Probably because the RTP know the British police are a real police force of highly trained professionals who do actually solve cases based on evidence and inquiry. They are not fobbed off by someone connected to powerful people and will follow through without expecting "extra incentives" from the victims family. Same with the inept Portugal police. They are only just giving full access to their files on Maddy to the British police - not wanting to show their incompetence. It's good to see the British government supporting justice for their citizens through the use of British police. It's a pity that the information in both cases was not handed over earlier. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnxforever Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Is't the the case were the Thai police tried to frame an English lad, by altering the DNA ?. no the police tried to frame a hilltribe tourguide. They kidnapped the poor guy and tried to set him up - but he went public. They also treated several foreigners still as suspects when it was already established that the DNA of the murderer identified him as an Asian male. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee b Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Now that some REAL police are involved, something might actually happen Spot on !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecee10 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 There is no universal concept of justice in the same way that there is no universal morality. The values of Thai culture create the Thai view of justice. Saving face means little to Westerners looking for justice, but in Thailand it means a huge amount. Whether the passing of 13 years makes the achievement of Western justice any easier now than in 2000 is questionable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomross46 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 The apprehension of the murderer is blocked by powerful interests within the police in Chiang Mai. Could it be one of the powerful families in Ching Mai assisted in the cover up? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty1412 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Some people go out of their way to hold on to the pain. I too have lost a son to death and it took a long time to loose the pain but I did nothing to hold on to it. Even at that tears would come to my eyes at times when I thought of him after 7 years. 13 years the killer could be dead by now or perhaps doing a life time sentence. There comes a time in are lives when we much as we dislike it have to let go of the past and build are own future. Truer words have never been spoken, the pain is always there but after time one learns to wear it like a part of ones dress.. except when you catch it in the mirror and then it is as if it was yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkungbank Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 12 years ago CCTV were expensive device but I think currently it's good for security and help the police solved many cases but Snowden case was too much without respect privacy rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Some people go out of their way to hold on to the pain. I too have lost a son to death and it took a long time to loose the pain but I did nothing to hold on to it. Even at that tears would come to my eyes at times when I thought of him after 7 years. 13 years the killer could be dead by now or perhaps doing a life time sentence. There comes a time in are lives when we much as we dislike it have to let go of the past and build are own future. Was your son brutally murdered and the perpetrator helped to escape justice? Sent from my GT-I9003 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app No I had nothing to buffer the loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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