webfact Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 'Drugs planted on Melbourne couple' in ThailandBANGKOK: -- A Melbourne couple say they believe drugs were planted on them at Bangkok Airport for bribes.The woman, known only as Georgia, and her boyfriend were just about to check in for a flight to Phuket when they noticed their luggage had been tampered with, Fairfax Radio reports.Georgia said the locks were missing off one of the suitcases and the straps had been cut."As we looked into the suitcases we realised the lock was missing."My boyfriend went to close his suitcase and noticed it had been cut."The pair checked into a local hotel and did a thorough search of the bags.Full story: http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/18657003/drugs-planted-on-melbourne-couple-in-thailand/-- YAHOO!7NEWS 2013-08-26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthEnergiser Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 more about the story Here is a link to the lady speaking on 3aw http://www.3aw.com.au/blogs/neil-mitchell-blog/they-were-about-to-become-drug-smugglers/20130826-2sklw.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theblether Posted August 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2013 The link looks broken Webfact, page not found. If there's any truth in this story that's both appalling and terrifying. That would be my ultimate travelers nightmare. Incidentally I have noticed an increase in bags being tampered with. I went for four years without my bags being opened in transit and the last three trips have seen them opened. Customs are entitled to check the bags in transit, but I'd prefer if they put a sticker on the bag saying "Security checked and cleared in Glasgow/ Dubai / BKK" or whatever. I don't like the idea of nameless people rummaging around in my bags. 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songhua Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 The link looks broken Webfact, page not found. If there's any truth in this story that's both appalling and terrifying. That would be my ultimate travelers nightmare. Incidentally I have noticed an increase in bags being tampered with. I went for four years without my bags being opened in transit and the last three trips have seen them opened. Customs are entitled to check the bags in transit, but I'd prefer if they put a sticker on the bag saying "Security checked and cleared in Glasgow/ Dubai / BKK" or whatever. I don't like the idea of nameless people rummaging around in my bags. Worked ok fo me, theblether.Goes on to say that they found a handful of mj in the case and they believe it would have been about (extorting) money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 The link looks broken Webfact, page not found. If there's any truth in this story that's both appalling and terrifying. That would be my ultimate travelers nightmare. Incidentally I have noticed an increase in bags being tampered with. I went for four years without my bags being opened in transit and the last three trips have seen them opened. Customs are entitled to check the bags in transit, but I'd prefer if they put a sticker on the bag saying "Security checked and cleared in Glasgow/ Dubai / BKK" or whatever. I don't like the idea of nameless people rummaging around in my bags. Link works for me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 1 comment on moderation removed. Thaivisa does not write these articles, we merely report them and when liking to articles we are bound by rules of fair use, which means limited quoting only, with link to the original article. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chooka Posted August 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2013 This is all over the Australian media at the moment and more damaging publicity for Thailand. Remarks also about the corruption that is rife in Thailand and the BIB are getting a good mention in dispatches. 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblether Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 I tried again, it's doing the same thing. Taking me to the landing page and not opening, doesn't matter, I got the gist of the story from the link that SE posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zydeco Posted August 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2013 I had the same sinking feeling awhile back coming back from the US. Got back to BKK and found the lock on my suitcase missing. And the strap I had tucked inside was missing. Got home and found a note from Homeland Security saying they had cut open the lock (never mentioned the strap they kept for themselves) and it was my problem if anything was stolen or missing. And what if someone put something INSIDE, as happened to these people, well, that was my problem, too. Get to Asia and get the death penalty for "smuggling" drugs, all because Homeland Security makes your suitcase a target of opportunity by cutting off the locks. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mario2008 Posted August 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2013 There is no evidence that the drugs were planted to demand a bribe from the victims. Using unsuspected travelers is a well known way to smuggle things. A scarry expeirence nonetheless, as the consequences for them when caught would have been very serious. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songhua Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 This is all over the Australian media at the moment and more damaging publicity for Thailand. Remarks also about the corruption that is rife in Thailand and the BIB are getting a good mention in dispatches.The media will be all over this. I heard one report in Oz this morning that made a comparison to the Schapelle Corby case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post TheGhostWithin Posted August 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2013 The thing missing from this article is if the couple packed their own bags, when the locks were "locked", when they noticed the locks were missing, and if the couple were in possession of their luggage the whole time that the bags were locked. They obviously were not if the locks were cut, but establishing this would quickly narrow down the places and periods of time which the locks could have been cut and who would have been responsible. If you located such items in your luggage at the airport and you declared it, would one still be charged with possession? My concern is that in the Kingdom there would be little consideration given to honest declaration, which I am sure has caused huge complications for some in the past who are forced to traffic drugs by international drug gangs but do not want to. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Reminds me of a case a year or 2 ago when the authorities in (i think) Japan were planting drugs in unsuspecting baggage @ an airport in order to give their dogs a chance to find it. It backfired spectacularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TomTao Posted August 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2013 Its a good thing they noticed the damage to thier luggage, if they hadn't then they could have become victims of extortion, or worse, found themselves residing at the Bangkok Hilton for a few years. This is the reason I pay a little extra and get my luggage wrapped at the airport. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickBradford Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 From the radio interview, it sounds like they suspect the hotel staff of being in on it -- they left their bags behind the desk before checking out so they could go for a 30-minute walk round town. That is truly scary -- because what can you do about it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 I tried again, it's doing the same thing. Taking me to the landing page and not opening, doesn't matter, I got the gist of the story from the link that SE posted. Try this then scroll down to the story "Thai Shock for melb Duo" http://www.3aw.com.au/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro01 Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 There is no evidence that the drugs were planted to demand a bribe from the victims. Using unsuspected travelers is a well known way to smuggle things. A scarry expeirence nonetheless, as the consequences for them when caught would have been very serious. You think it was a gift? It was a handful of weed. That is not someone trying to use someone's bag for smuggling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Its a good thing they noticed the damage to thier luggage, if they hadn't then they could have become victims of extortion, or worse, found themselves residing at the Bangkok Hilton for a few years. This is the reason I pay a little extra and get my luggage wrapped at the airport. Lucky their baggage was over weight at check in which resulted in them noticing the damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych01 Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 (edited) More bad news for Thailand and it's tourism money maker. Edited August 26, 2013 by Psych01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Songhua Posted August 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2013 The thing missing from this article is if the couple packed their own bags, when the locks were "locked", when they noticed the locks were missing, and if the couple were in possession of their luggage the whole time that the bags were locked. They obviously were not if the locks were cut, but establishing this would quickly narrow down the places and periods of time which the locks could have been cut and who would have been responsible. If you located such items in your luggage at the airport and you declared it, would one still be charged with possession? My concern is that in the Kingdom there would be little consideration given to honest declaration, which I am sure has caused huge complications for some in the past who are forced to traffic drugs by international drug gangs but do not want to. If their account is factual, I believe their quick decision to get the heck out of the airport was extremely sensible. An airport is the last place you'd want to be checking your bags and pulling out bags of drugs - planted or otherwise. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 The thing missing from this article is if the couple packed their own bags, when the locks were "locked", when they noticed the locks were missing, and if the couple were in possession of their luggage the whole time that the bags were locked. They obviously were not if the locks were cut, but establishing this would quickly narrow down the places and periods of time which the locks could have been cut and who would have been responsible. If you located such items in your luggage at the airport and you declared it, would one still be charged with possession? My concern is that in the Kingdom there would be little consideration given to honest declaration, which I am sure has caused huge complications for some in the past who are forced to traffic drugs by international drug gangs but do not want to. They weren't in possession of their bags the whole time, they left the bags with hotel staff for around 30 minutes whilst they took a walk waiting for their ride. The woman gives her story in the link attached. They were very lucky and a good move I think to immeadiately contact the Australian Embassy for advice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tywais Posted August 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2013 There is no evidence that the drugs were planted to demand a bribe from the victims. Using unsuspected travelers is a well known way to smuggle things. A scarry expeirence nonetheless, as the consequences for them when caught would have been very serious. You think it was a gift? It was a handful of weed. That is not someone trying to use someone's bag for smuggling. Clearly not an attempt by a 3rd party to smuggle but to set them up. Interestingly, the Embassy basically told them to dump it, buy new suitcases and clean their clothes and content of the cases to prevent any detection by search dogs. Seems the Embassy figured not much chance of convincing the authorities it was just a plant. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantSmith Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 More bad news for Thailand and it's tourism money maker. I look forward to the TAT's spin on this one... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdecas Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 (edited) I'd agree with Georgia's assessment - almost certainly an attempt at extortion, either by bogus officials or by real officials such as the recent ATM case at Soi Nana. Scare the pants off tourists with dire threats of years in gaol until they're ready to pay almost anything to be let go. For example, this has been the technique of low-grade police in Thailand for decades, even for real or imaginary minor traffic offences - look serious, intimidate with threats of dire consequences until nice and soft, then move in for the sting. Edited August 26, 2013 by asdecas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slapout Posted August 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2013 Why does this not surprise me and I even tend to believe the account as related by the tourist. The track record of any group with responsibility for enforcement of law in this country is so tainted that what should be the "good guys" are the first suspects in in any illegal activity. As someone once described the individuals tasked with enforcement of the legal system. Contemptable bastards who have fallen to a depth that is lower than whale sh.t at the bottom of the ocean. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 More bad news for Thailand and it's tourism money maker. I look forward to the TAT's spin on this one... The gulity parties planting these drugs were not Thai, quite obviously its was the Burmese drug barons.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theblether Posted August 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2013 I tried again, it's doing the same thing. Taking me to the landing page and not opening, doesn't matter, I got the gist of the story from the link that SE posted. Try this then scroll down to the story "Thai Shock for melb Duo" http://www.3aw.com.au/ Got it thanks. Re your comment about it being all over the news in Australia. I think people would let stories about tuk tuk and jet ski scams woosh over their heads. Not this one though. The idea of this becoming a new scam is sickening and terrifying for many. It's one thing to be scammed for a few hundred / thousand baht, something else to land with a drug charge against you. This is repulsive. What a shock it must be to that couple. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 More bad news for Thailand and it's tourism money maker. I look forward to the TAT's spin on this one... "This will have no effect on tourism" People will be flocking from Australia now that this has gone viral down under. lots of talk back about Shappele Corby and set ups by Thai authorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 I had the same sinking feeling awhile back coming back from the US. Got back to BKK and found the lock on my suitcase missing. And the strap I had tucked inside was missing. Got home and found a note from Homeland Security saying they had cut open the lock (never mentioned the strap they kept for themselves) and it was my problem if anything was stolen or missing. And what if someone put something INSIDE, as happened to these people, well, that was my problem, too. Get to Asia and get the death penalty for "smuggling" drugs, all because Homeland Security makes your suitcase a target of opportunity by cutting off the locks. I doubt that Homeland Security would leave a note if they were smuggling drugs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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