Lite Beer Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Academic thumbs his nose at junta councilPravit RojanaphrukThe Sunday Nation: BANGKOK: -- An anti-coup academic on the second summon list of 35 academics and activists issued by the military junta has said he will not report to the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO)."To the Army chief, I am busy with teaching at the moment," wrote political scientist Assoc Prof Pavin Chachavalpongpun of Kyoto University on his Facebook page yesterday. The message was written in Thai and English.Ousted interior minister Charupong Ruangsuwan also announced yesterday that he would not report to the NCPO as summoned.The leader of the Pheu Thai Party, Charupong said he would not bow to a military that seized the people's power and he called the coup leaders rebels.He said he was hiding in the Northeast and was safe.Charupong posted his message on his Facebook wall in handwriting.The junta yesterday issued another order, summoning 35 more prominent figures to report to it.They included Sondhi Limthongkul, former co-leader of the People's Alliance for Democracy, Suwat Liptapanlop, Worajet Pakeerat, an academic of the Nitirat group, Somsak Jeamteerasakul, and Pavin Chachavalpongpun.Those on the new list and those summoned earlier have been ordered to report to the NCPO by 4pm Thursday.Red-shirt leader Suporn Atthawong and a number of other red-shirt leaders in the Northeast yesterday reported to the military in Nakhon Ratchasima. -- The Nation 2014-05-25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NongKhaiKid Posted May 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2014 Pavin appears on BBC and Channel News Asia and to me gives a good, balanced assessment but has critised the military so ... ! Is he really expected to nip home from Japan for interview ? According to the other paper both he and Charuporn will have their assets frozen. Sounds painful. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piichai Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Everyone has a choice; they don't have to report. But if they don't, they are subject to arrest, having their pasport revoked, and assets frozen. Up to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentors Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Dont worry, i guess they have some Dollars abroad... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stickyrice2000 Posted May 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2014 NCPO, you are not their mothers and you staged a coup to take their freedom away. Summon the yellow protesters who are sitting out for over 6 months. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cacruden Posted May 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2014 Everyone has a choice; they don't have to report. But if they don't, they are subject to arrest, having their pasport revoked, and assets frozen. Up to them. Another reason why you should not have much money on deposit in a Thai bank..... there are no rules that protect you when the governing body can suspend all protections. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Now or Never Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Pavin has her/his knickers in a knot. I pity the students having to listen to this clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The stuttering parrot Posted May 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2014 The list! Sounds like the blacklist! Not everyone is going to roll over to this dictatorship and nor they should. Suppress suppress suppress! Take away any freedom of speech take away democracy and deny a generation of young people of a life of freedom to express any criticism of the junta? And people on here support this! You wouldn't cop it in your own country! 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted May 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2014 The list! Sounds like the blacklist! Not everyone is going to roll over to this dictatorship and nor they should. Suppress suppress suppress! Take away any freedom of speech take away democracy and deny a generation of young people of a life of freedom to express any criticism of the junta? And people on here support this! You wouldn't cop it in your own country! Hot air from redshirts with high blood pressure now their game is done. In my home country the government is not corrupt.. does not abuse its power and is a bit competent. There are loads of checks and balances and if they had done what YL had one they would have been in jail a long time ago. This is not a real democracy. If this were a real democracy id support your views. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The stuttering parrot Posted May 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2014 And you are sure you government is corrupt free? Well mine isn't and any who is caught out is dealt with by the courts . Not an army coup! By the way it's being condemned worldwide but the yellow gang on here know better than anyone else! 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SanSaiExPat Posted May 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2014 The list! Sounds like the blacklist! Not everyone is going to roll over to this dictatorship and nor they should. Suppress suppress suppress! Take away any freedom of speech take away democracy and deny a generation of young people of a life of freedom to express any criticism of the junta? And people on here support this! You wouldn't cop it in your own country! Hot air from redshirts with high blood pressure now their game is done. In my home country the government is not corrupt.. does not abuse its power and is a bit competent. There are loads of checks and balances and if they had done what YL had one they would have been in jail a long time ago. This is not a real democracy. If this were a real democracy id support your views. What country is that my friend. Utopia? If it's so great why not identify it? There is no government in the world that does not abuse it's power. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pi Sek Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 And you are sure you government is corrupt free? Well mine isn't and any who is caught out is dealt with by the courts . Not an army coup! By the way it's being condemned worldwide but the yellow gang on here know better than anyone else! Ah, so your country prefers the judicial coup route! One way or the other, Thai Rak Thai and all of its reincarnations will always cry foul if anyone objects to them breaking the rules they signed up to uphold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 And you are sure you government is corrupt free? Well mine isn't and any who is caught out is dealt with by the courts . Not an army coup! By the way it's being condemned worldwide but the yellow gang on here know better than anyone else! Yes we do, we live here. Because of the nepotism and corruption its real hard to convict them. The best we can hope for is a audit of the books now the civil servants don't have to fear for their jobs (and lives) and can give the information about corruption. Now we can clean up and make sure the Shins never take power again. Remember they slashed the budget of the NACC by 60% so they could not fight the corruption of the government. Make some better checks and balances and make sure things are transparent then politicians cant steal (as much) and as a result of that vote buying and inciting violence and paid for protests will be gone as it is a bad investment. So IF we get real good reforms I am for it, but IF the general stays in power I would join your side against him. I just see this as a temporary phase to strengthen the checks and balances the previous government tried to remove. I want anyone who is corrupt to do time.. Suthep included. Now its much easier to prove as now this government can't stop investigations. For the future new strict laws that are enforced would help it not to happen again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unanimosity Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 And you are sure you government is corrupt free? Well mine isn't and any who is caught out is dealt with by the courts . Not an army coup! By the way it's being condemned worldwide but the yellow gang on here know better than anyone else! Yes we do, we live here. Because of the nepotism and corruption its real hard to convict them. The best we can hope for is a audit of the books now the civil servants don't have to fear for their jobs (and lives) and can give the information about corruption. Now we can clean up and make sure the Shins never take power again. Remember they slashed the budget of the NACC by 60% so they could not fight the corruption of the government. Make some better checks and balances and make sure things are transparent then politicians cant steal (as much) and as a result of that vote buying and inciting violence and paid for protests will be gone as it is a bad investment. So IF we get real good reforms I am for it, but IF the general stays in power I would join your side against him. I just see this as a temporary phase to strengthen the checks and balances the previous government tried to remove. I want anyone who is corrupt to do time.. Suthep included. Now its much easier to prove as now this government can't stop investigations. For the future new strict laws that are enforced would help it not to happen again. "He's making a list, checking it twice, gonna find out who's naughty and nice....." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) The list! Sounds like the blacklist! Not everyone is going to roll over to this dictatorship and nor they should. Suppress suppress suppress! Take away any freedom of speech take away democracy and deny a generation of young people of a life of freedom to express any criticism of the junta? And people on here support this! You wouldn't cop it in your own country! Hot air from redshirts with high blood pressure now their game is done. In my home country the government is not corrupt.. does not abuse its power and is a bit competent. There are loads of checks and balances and if they had done what YL had one they would have been in jail a long time ago. This is not a real democracy. If this were a real democracy id support your views. What country is that my friend. Utopia? If it's so great why not identify it? There is no government in the world that does not abuse it's power. Netherlands.. have fun looking for examples. Stupid reaction too.. schoolground stuff.. they did it too so its not bad Edited May 25, 2014 by robblok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieinthailand Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 The list! Sounds like the blacklist! Not everyone is going to roll over to this dictatorship and nor they should. Suppress suppress suppress! Take away any freedom of speech take away democracy and deny a generation of young people of a life of freedom to express any criticism of the junta? And people on here support this! You wouldn't cop it in your own country! Hot air from redshirts with high blood pressure now their game is done. In my home country the government is not corrupt.. does not abuse its power and is a bit competent. There are loads of checks and balances and if they had done what YL had one they would have been in jail a long time ago. This is not a real democracy. If this were a real democracy id support your views. "In my home country the government is not corrupt..." and dose not abuse it's power" And just what country do you come from? Shangri-La? It's a nice thought but currently delusional, maybe your government is just more devious like most first world gov't are? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickirs Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> The list!Sounds like the blacklist!Not everyone is going to roll over to this dictatorship and nor they should.Suppress suppress suppress! Take away any freedom of speech take away democracy and deny a generation of young people of a life of freedom to express any criticism of the junta?And people on here support this!You wouldn't cop it in your own country! Hot air from redshirts with high blood pressure now their game is done. In my home country the government is not corrupt.. does not abuse its power and is a bit competent. There are loads of checks and balances and if they had done what YL had one they would have been in jail a long time ago. This is not a real democracy. If this were a real democracy id support your vie And what country is your home - North Korea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 One way to influence friends and others , to each he's own, pretty hard teaching from a prison cell though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kennypowers Posted May 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2014 Pavin is a legend. He has been leading the good fight for democracy and risking his own neck for years. If voices like his are silenced I dread to think what will become of Thailand. In just a few days we have stepped back 50-100 years in terms of progress. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackCedar Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 NCPO, you are not their mothers and you staged a coup to take their freedom away. Summon the yellow protesters who are sitting out for over 6 months. Stickyrice, you are always good for a laugh... are you posting on behalf of your wife..? tell us, "you are not their mothers" but you did not tell us their mothers WHAT..? could be their mothers handbag ? their mothers panties ? Maybe you should have said.... "You are not their mother..!" that may have made sense ! Go back to skool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scamper Posted May 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2014 " The leader of the Pheu Thai Party, Charupong said he would not bow to a military that seized the people's power and he called the coup leaders rebels. He said he was hiding in the Northeast and was safe. " Charupong is of course the former interior minister who endorsed a UDD platform that included secession on February 23. So he has good reason to hide. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> The list! Sounds like the blacklist! Not everyone is going to roll over to this dictatorship and nor they should. Suppress suppress suppress! Take away any freedom of speech take away democracy and deny a generation of young people of a life of freedom to express any criticism of the junta? And people on here support this! You wouldn't cop it in your own country! Hot air from redshirts with high blood pressure now their game is done. In my home country the government is not corrupt.. does not abuse its power and is a bit competent. There are loads of checks and balances and if they had done what YL had one they would have been in jail a long time ago. This is not a real democracy. If this were a real democracy id support your vie And what country is your home - North Korea? Again reds cant read don't bother to read the whole topic before you post.. its mentioned just above your post. Shows the lack of brains in a large portion of red posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post inutil Posted May 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) Its mind boggling. People who would be the first to moan about censorship suddenly becoming ardent supporters of it. Why should they be detained? Why should they report? Theyve done nothing wrong. Not even to the coup. In fact their only crime appears to be they refuse to come when ordered. Were they to do so, they would be tacitly accepting that the coup is somehow legitimate. They have a choice as remarked somewhat glibly earlier in this thread, to report or not to report. But the passive tolerance of the outcome, as if this is in some way just a normal day in thailand and we're all in some kind of legal-rational framework here is remarkable. The thread about the dude 'on the run' was brilliant. This is a guy that seems to be committed to HELPING people, being summarily ordered to some kind of 're-education' discussion/detainment, and the coup cheerleaders trumpet their wet brained triumphalism that hes gonna get whats coming to him then! Whats coming to him? Extra funding for the GOOD he seems to be doing for rural people in his country? Then there was the whole 'but the senate's safe! so its still a beautiful day in thailand!' nonsense from the past three days. Fast forward to yesterday and the tune changes again... Yay! hes clearing all the weeds out! Brilliant stuff. Im flabbergasted, i really am, at the complacency of the expat community. Its one thing to stay neutral and not interfere and recognise that ultimately youre a guest in this country. Its quite another to actively cheer on the usurpation of power and the arbitrary detention of Thai citizens who have done nothing wrong. Well, we'll see if youre all posting stupid videos like 'nowhere to run' in a few weeks time. Edited May 25, 2014 by inutil 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil2 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Everyone has a choice; they don't have to report. But if they don't, they are subject to arrest, having their pasport revoked, and assets frozen. Up to them. Another reason why you should not have much money on deposit in a Thai bank..... there are no rules that protect you when the governing body can suspend all protections. Why was Qadaffi's assets frozen by the powers that be if there are rules in other so called democrazies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 The list! Sounds like the blacklist! Not everyone is going to roll over to this dictatorship and nor they should. Suppress suppress suppress! Take away any freedom of speech take away democracy and deny a generation of young people of a life of freedom to express any criticism of the junta? And people on here support this! You wouldn't cop it in your own country! Hot air from redshirts with high blood pressure now their game is done.In my home country the government is not corrupt.. does not abuse its power and is a bit competent. There are loads of checks and balances and if they had done what YL had one they would have been in jail a long time ago. This is not a real democracy. If this were a real democracy id support your views. And they also try to make sure both sides aren't corrupt at all, instead of leaving it to one corrupt side to point out the other sides greater corrupt nature. Supporting Suthep to overthrow corruption in general is an absolute absurdity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Pavin appears on BBC and Channel News Asia and to me gives a good, balanced assessment I have seen him on Channel News Asia and enjoyed his assessments of the Thai political situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnxforever Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Pavin has her/his knickers in a knot. I pity the students having to listen to this clown. Why because he teaches them critical assessment and independent thought? Of course nobody with a fascist agenda would like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 The list! Sounds like the blacklist! Not everyone is going to roll over to this dictatorship and nor they should. Suppress suppress suppress! Take away any freedom of speech take away democracy and deny a generation of young people of a life of freedom to express any criticism of the junta? And people on here support this! You wouldn't cop it in your own country! Hot air from redshirts with high blood pressure now their game is done.In my home country the government is not corrupt.. does not abuse its power and is a bit competent. There are loads of checks and balances and if they had done what YL had one they would have been in jail a long time ago. This is not a real democracy. If this were a real democracy id support your views. And they also try to make sure both sides aren't corrupt at all, instead of leaving it to one corrupt side to point out the other sides greater corrupt nature. Supporting Suthep to overthrow corruption in general is an absolute absurdity. Suthep is a means to an end, I don't support him and if he can be proven to be corrupt take his ill gotten gains and put him in jail. I have no tolerance for corrupt government officials on either side. I hope and expect the general to put in place some tough anti corruption laws. But remember your side slashed the NACC budget (corruption fighters) by 60% and wanted to include 25.000 corruption cases in the amnesty. Kinda says it all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnxforever Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Why did the nation leave out the second part of his message where he tells the army chief that he will send his pet dog instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mountain Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) The list! Sounds like the blacklist! Not everyone is going to roll over to this dictatorship and nor they should. Suppress suppress suppress! Take away any freedom of speech take away democracy and deny a generation of young people of a life of freedom to express any criticism of the junta? And people on here support this! You wouldn't cop it in your own country! Hot air from redshirts with high blood pressure now their game is done. In my home country the government is not corrupt.. does not abuse its power and is a bit competent. There are loads of checks and balances and if they had done what YL had one they would have been in jail a long time ago. This is not a real democracy. If this were a real democracy id support your views. What country is that my friend. Utopia? If it's so great why not identify it? There is no government in the world that does not abuse it's power. Netherlands.. have fun looking for examples. Stupid reaction too.. schoolground stuff.. they did it too so its not bad - JSF - Europe referendum which never came ... - etc Edited May 25, 2014 by Jack Mountain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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