webfact Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 ANIMAL PROTECTIONShock and anger over increasing cases of animal crueltyTHE NATION BANGKOK: -- DOGS HAVE been victims of several shocking crimes recently, including strays living inside a police station compound getting poisoned and a cute Pomeranian being cruelly attacked at home.Four dogs were found dead at Muang Chon Buri Police Station in Chon Buri province yesterday, and the most heartbreaking sight was of fellow stray "Chao Sing" trying to wake up one of his poisoned friends."We suspect that some teenage illegal road racers might have poisoned these dogs in the hope of stealing their confiscated motorcycles," Pol Senior Sgt-Major Manoon Songraksa said.According to him, these dogs had been living in the compound of the police station and usually slept near the confiscated bikes.Kanya Hongsachart, a 50-year-old local woman, tearfully recounted that these strays had never bitten anybody and that she had been feeding them for years now."They would only bark at loud motorcycles," she recounted.Lt-Colonel Komsorn Mabamrung, the police station's deputy superintendent, said dogs were often poisoned before thefts and burglaries. "This is not a good sign," he said, adding that police would check CCTV recordings in a bid to nail down the culprits.Torturing or killing an animal without a sound reason is punishable by a maximum fine of Bt1,000.In Tak province, Tossaporn Pakasinay is planning to put some strays in his neighbourhood under the care of a local animal shelter after finding them poisoned again."They were having convulsions, so I quickly fed them egg whites and medicines [from a vet]," he said, citing the most recent poisoning incident on Tuesday night.Tossaporn said this was the third time that these dogs had been poisoned, so he has decided to call an animal shelter for help.In Bangkok, Aranya Surabutr lodged a police complaint after she woke up to find her Pomeranian cruelly attacked early last week. On the morning of August 19, Aranya found her dog in a pool of toilet cleaner and blood in the garage area of her house.Closer examination found that little Jacob had been cut in the legs and exposed to harmful toilet cleaner. The dog is still receiving treatment and faces the risk of amputation."I don't have any conflicts, so I don't know who would want to attack it," Aranya said.The story of Jacob's sad fate has spread like wildfire on social media, prompting an outpouring of sympathy. Several high-profile figures, including socialite Chanya Tanada, have stepped in to help.Chanya recently asked Aranya to provide more information on the case, but Aranya responded with a post on Facebook yesterday, saying it was not very convenient for her to answer all queries as she has been inundated with calls about Jacob over the past few days.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Shock-and-anger-over-increasing-cases-of-animal-cr-30242022.html-- The Nation 2014-08-29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robby nz Posted August 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2014 The stray dogs are a real pest in this country, something that should be addressed. By the way what about the cases of child cruelty we have heard about recently, do they shock anybody ? People come first dogs are way down my priority list. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seabass69 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Yet nobody seems too concerned about children getting electrocuted by ATMs and strangled in pre-schools 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fiddlesticks Posted August 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) Why should anyone be surprised much less shocked at the treatment of animals in Thailand. They can not even treat each other with respect or dignity. The day they begin to treat women as human beings or the day that they stop selling children and other less fortunate individuals as slaves or the day that employers treat their workers as more than beasts will be the day that I will cease to be surprised at the treatment of dogs here in the "Land of Smiles" ! ! ! Edited August 29, 2014 by Fiddlesticks 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms22 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 "treat their workers as more than beasts",....... Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wxpwzrd Posted August 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2014 The stray dogs are a real pest in this country, something that should be addressed. By the way what about the cases of child cruelty we have heard about recently, do they shock anybody ? People come first dogs are way down my priority list. And you don't even show on my priority list. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wxpwzrd Posted August 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2014 I will happily return the favor to those I see mistreating animals. A whole 1000 baht fine, huh? Wow. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post honcho Posted August 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2014 thai budhism in action.... I once saw thai youths sitting on Honda dreams plucking live chickens, and laughing as the chicken squawked at every plucked feather.... there were too many of them for me to intervene, but I still felt like a coward for doing nothing.... I felt the chickens lives were worth more than the heartless scum doing the plucking. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bkk75 Posted August 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2014 The stray dogs are a real pest in this country, something that should be addressed. By the way what about the cases of child cruelty we have heard about recently, do they shock anybody ? People come first dogs are way down my priority list. TV members who bitch about everything in this country are way down on my priority list. Perhaps we should euthanasia them, feed them some rat poison, or generally give them a good kicking every day. Animals are generally defenseless. At least they are not cruel/kill each other intentionally. Humans can be worst than animals. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post realenglish1 Posted August 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2014 "Torturing or killing an animal without a sound reason is punishable by a maximum fine of Bt1,000." This is one of the reasons there are so many problems in Thai culture. The quote says torturing or killing without good reason THERE IS NEVER A GOOD REASON FOR THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR This is truly a sick law that needs to be changed 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NomadJoe Posted August 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) And to add to the animal suffering, a Ukrainian company is planning to soon to open a dolphin prison in Phuket. There is a huge body of evidence on the intelligence of dolphins, and the negative effects of captivity. In a time when many countries are banning this cruel activity, Thailand is going in the wrong direction. Experts are saying the the facility they are destined for is too small. Captive dolphins live a shortened life in captivity often dying from disease or malnutrition. Some have even committed suicide. Dolphins are one of a handful of animals other than humans that have at least some level of self awareness. They are capable of emotion and suffering. They live in tight family units, often for generations, and travel up to 80km a day. Mating pairs mate for long periods of time, possibly even for life. Dolphins communicate with a rudimentary language. They even create names for each other. Their form of communication relies on an open ocean. When they are put into a tank, they effectively become deaf and dumb, as their clicks and squeaks reverberate around the tank making there sounds unintelligible to each other. There is strong evidence that some of the dolphins destined for Phuket were caught at the infamous "Cove" in Taiji, Japan where the slaughter of thousands of dolphins and whales occurs every day for half the year. This in a time when dolphin numbers are drastically dropping, some becoming endangered. The "The Cove" dolphin "trainers" pick from the best dolphins the fisherman catch, and pay 100 times more for a dolphin destined for a shorted lifetime entertaining humans than for one destined to the food market. This fuels the slaughter. Sea Shephern and several other organisations are involved in trying to stop the dolphinarium from opening. There is a petition to stop the dolphinarium. http://www.phuketgazette.net/phuket-news/Sea-Sheperd-rails-against-allegedly-wild-caught/31224#ad-image-0 Edited August 29, 2014 by NomadJoe 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 The stray dogs are a real pest in this country, something that should be addressed. By the way what about the cases of child cruelty we have heard about recently, do they shock anybody ? People come first dogs are way down my priority list. So we have priority do we?? what is next after humans ?? Your first line is spot on. TOPIC dogs. suffering of any creature is a no no, My neighbour has 3 dogs, 2 large ones are kept in a confind space 3x3. and only fed, 1 other dog is kept alone and is in a disgusting state, near hairless, mega eye infections, body sores covering all the body, emasiated, claws 3 inches long and twisted barly able to walk with no excersise area, alone all day and night and fed scraps. This neighbour is so cruel, the 2 dogs need to walk and run and ned a loving home, one barks constantly day and night. The emasiated dod needs to be put down. I have voiced my opinion but the lady laughs it off, and is imune to the suffering, wish I could do something to help them. This house is a 2 million baht home. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ggt Posted August 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) Torturing or killing an animal without a sound reason is punishable by a maximum fine of Bt1,000. Would some official...please tell us...when torturing an animal for ANY reason...is acceptable...? And would these same officials tell us...how a teacher can justify criminal abuse of a child...for not doing their homework? Please...do enlighten us! Thailand has a long way to go...when it comes to acceptable behavior in the eyes of the world community... Edited August 29, 2014 by ggt 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loles Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 " Torturing or killing an animal without a sound reason is punishable by a maximum fine of Bt1,000 " Any question more ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomadJoe Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) "Torturing or killing an animal without a sound reason is punishable by a maximum fine of Bt1,000." This is one of the reasons there are so many problems in Thai culture. The quote says torturing or killing without good reason THERE IS NEVER A GOOD REASON FOR THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR This is truly a sick law that needs to be changed The "torturing" bit is separate from the "for good reason" bit which applies to the killing. Animal euthanasia is often the most humane thing to do with an animal that is suffering and has no chance for survival, and this piece is saying there is an exception in the law for that, just as in other countries. But this is not usually done in Thailand because it is against Buddhist principles, which is one of the reason why we see so many sick and injured dogs on the streets here. Edited August 29, 2014 by NomadJoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post BoardDWorld Posted August 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) It's very disgusting here. Where I use to live we had a Soi dog who was very friendly and looked just like the one heading this page. Someone had taken a grinder to its head, fitted with a think grinding disk and cut about an inch deep and about 4 inches long from the back of his head and stopped just before reaching his right eye. It would have taken a good while to make that cut and the noise must have been horrendous. How it happened without someone stopping it I don't know. Then none of the local taxi drivers that sit in Que. with their filthy banged up vehicles wanted to take me with the dog to a vet. Ignorant of taxi drivers at the time my wife pulled me away just short of it turning into a fight. Some people are so disgusting bent that they need to be put away for life. Edited August 29, 2014 by BoardDWorld 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk75 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 It's very disgusting here. Where I use to live we had a Soi dog who was very friendly and looked just like the one heading this page. Someone had taken a grinder to its head, fitted with a think grinding disk and cut about an inch deep and about 4 inches long from the back of his head and stopped just before reaching his right eye. It would have taken a good while to make that cut and the noise must have been horrendous. How it happened without someone stopping it I don't know. Then none of the local taxi drivers that sit in Que. with their filthy banged up vehicles wanted to take me with the dog to a vet. Ignorant of taxi drivers at the time my wife pulled me away just short of it turning into a fight. Some people are so disgusting bent that they need to be put away for life. Don't worry, Thailand is land of Buddhism. They shall pay back in karma and next life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hugh2121 Posted August 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2014 The stray dogs are a real pest in this country, something that should be addressed. By the way what about the cases of child cruelty we have heard about recently, do they shock anybody ? People come first dogs are way down my priority list. Why are there stray dogs? Because of people! No such thing as a bad dog, only bad people! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Torrens54 Posted August 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2014 We gave away two puppies to two "loving" families. The first one was apparently allowed to roam the streets from a very early age. She became pregnant and almost died giving birth. A couple of months later she was hit and killed on the road. The second one was apparently not cared for at-all...I'm told she died from a Flea Infestation a few weeks ago. Are these examples of "Thainess"? I hope not but our dog won't be having any more puppies, so we won't be giving any more to "Loving Thai families." 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 '... police would check CCTV recordings in a bid to nail down the culprits.' Nailing them up might be more effective.'Torturing ... an animal without a sound reason ...?' '... punishable by a ... fine of [the usual farcical] Bt1,000. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yann55 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Quote : "We suspect that some teenage illegal road racers might have poisoned these dogs in the hope of stealing their confiscated motorcycles," Pol Senior Sgt-Major Manoon Songraksa said. I know we're not supposed to laugh at the grammar but this one is really funny. Obviously the dogs' motorcycles were confiscated and the teenage illegal road racers poisoned the dogs so they could steal their motorcycles, and that's probably because dog's motorcycles are good for racing, an interesting fact I wasn't aware of, up to this day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catweazle Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 If this is the top of the priority list, then mostly this whole planet is lost. Look around people! Ther are by far more pressing issues than a few poisoned stray dogs that would die a horrible death anyway by malnutrition, car accident, cancer, etc. Problem is not being tackled at the root what would be to catch and put to sleep all street dogs in Thailand once and for all. Dunno how thousands of fatal motorbike accidents also involving children have been caused by fV<|<in' strays... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 If this is the top of the priority list, then mostly this whole planet is lost. Look around people! Ther are by far more pressing issues than a few poisoned stray dogs that would die a horrible death anyway by malnutrition, car accident, cancer, etc. Problem is not being tackled at the root what would be to catch and put to sleep all street dogs in Thailand once and for all. Dunno how thousands of fatal motorbike accidents also involving children have been caused by fV<|<in' strays... Do you mean PEOPLE who abandon the dogs because the do not want to pay for food or they are past the adorable puppy stage or the sick people who do this ought to be put down. You blame the dogs ??? You have the Quote "root problem" wrong. Why are people to mean to put a fence around their house and keep the animals in the garden.....oooppps garden ?? the Thais in general in most areas do not like flowers, most burn rubbish in the evening, land around the house is like a knackers yard, It is all in the up-bringing. Parents need to go to school and learn how to care. They care little about anyone-anything. but NOT ALL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk75 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) We gave away two puppies to two "loving" families. The first one was apparently allowed to roam the streets from a very early age. She became pregnant and almost died giving birth. A couple of months later she was hit and killed on the road. The second one was apparently not cared for at-all...I'm told she died from a Flea Infestation a few weeks ago. Are these examples of "Thainess"? I hope not but our dog won't be having any more puppies, so we won't be giving any more to "Loving Thai families." Oh please. It has nothing to do with Thai-ness. It has to with human nature! They think puppies are cute until they find out how much care they require. It's the same in any country. You don't think pets are abandoned outside of Thailand. TV members love every opportunity to spite Thais so I wonder why they are still here.... Edited August 29, 2014 by bkk75 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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robertthebruce Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Very very sad, but to be honest it's not just confided to Thailand, this is a world problem..... Animal Cruelty exists everywhere....... Sad but true.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 We gave away two puppies to two "loving" families. The first one was apparently allowed to roam the streets from a very early age. She became pregnant and almost died giving birth. A couple of months later she was hit and killed on the road. The second one was apparently not cared for at-all...I'm told she died from a Flea Infestation a few weeks ago. Are these examples of "Thainess"? I hope not but our dog won't be having any more puppies, so we won't be giving any more to "Loving Thai families." Oh please. It has nothing to do with Thai-ness. It has to with human nature! They think puppies are cute until they find out how much care they require. It's the same in any country. You don't think animals are abandoned outside of Thailand. TV members love every opportunity to spite Thais so I wonder why they are still here.... For gods sake--it is NOT the same in any country---backward thinking ones maybe. Do you think it is only TVF members who see the outrage here. Suppose jet ski--double pricing-corruption-law and order- it is not being a Thai hater it is to do with caring, animals-kids-tourists-forests-beaches- here has it's downsides, we speak about them it is a natural gift we have. Because they happen does not mean we should leave, Thai upbringing or the lack of it is the problem with Thailand's caring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Very very sad, but to be honest it's not just confided to Thailand, this is a world problem..... Animal Cruelty exists everywhere....... Sad but true.... It is the scale of cruelty we are talking about though, we can give this answer Quote "everywhere" ten years from now as this is and always be true---UK has very strict laws concerning animals but on occasions were hear about cases. So it is not confined to Thailand, I would think most of Thai neighbours have the same non caring attitude in most cases. Backward counties tend to have more problems than most, Thailand is not so backward in many things but caring for kids forests-animals-pollution--CARING is the word Thailand has to address. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk75 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 We gave away two puppies to two "loving" families. The first one was apparently allowed to roam the streets from a very early age. She became pregnant and almost died giving birth. A couple of months later she was hit and killed on the road. The second one was apparently not cared for at-all...I'm told she died from a Flea Infestation a few weeks ago. Are these examples of "Thainess"? I hope not but our dog won't be having any more puppies, so we won't be giving any more to "Loving Thai families." Oh please. It has nothing to do with Thai-ness. It has to with human nature! They think puppies are cute until they find out how much care they require. It's the same in any country. You don't think animals are abandoned outside of Thailand. TV members love every opportunity to spite Thais so I wonder why they are still here.... For gods sake--it is NOT the same in any country---backward thinking ones maybe. Do you think it is only TVF members who see the outrage here. Suppose jet ski--double pricing-corruption-law and order- it is not being a Thai hater it is to do with caring, animals-kids-tourists-forests-beaches- here has it's downsides, we speak about them it is a natural gift we have. Because they happen does not mean we should leave, Thai upbringing or the lack of it is the problem with Thailand's caring. I see then it's white man's burden to educate the barbaric savage Thais. Just like how the civilized Americans tamed the Indians. Good luck to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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