Publicus Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 The 2nd Most Powerful Person in German Politics Wants ...russia-insider.com/en/2nd-most...wants-russia-sanctions-lifted/ri10147 Oct 3, 2015 - The 2nd Most Powerful Person in German Politics Wants Russia Sanctions Lifted. Germany's auto manufacturers are among the industries ... That's going nowhere as the concluding paragraph of the link points out. You're off topic anyway. Economic ties in energy especially date back to West Germany and USSR days. Those days are gone. Germany and the EU have already secured energy resources away from Russia, to include Madagascar, the USA and numerous other countries that are "non-strategic competitors" of Nato/EU. In other words, Putin's Chekist Russia had become a strategic competitor to Germany, EU, Nato. So no more dependency. Kaput. Germany still has its Russia and Putin boosters. It's just that they are in a steady and consistent decline. Former Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder of the pro-Russia Social Democratic Party has become the poster boy of how not to do it in Germany. Schroeder went to work for Putin at Gazprom then he became head of Nord Stream AG. SPD is scurrying now to put that new vote-loser and liability behind them in their next general election challenge against Merkel's Christian Democrats. So we see that simply posting news articles with links doesn't say much about what's actually occurring anywhere, anytime. Trying to create a headline bulletin board of posts doesn't cut it either. Oh sure. Europe could get gas from anywhere. If they want to pay double or 127% more which they could not afford even if they wanted to. Europe Seen Paying Twice as Much to Replace Russian Gas www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-03-28/europe-seen-paying... Europe Seen Paying Twice as Much to Replace Russian Gas. ... 37 percent in Germany and 16 percent in France. Belgium and Spain are among those who get no Russian fuel. Europe’s natural gas prices would have to double to lure enough cargoes from the global market to replace Russian supplies, adding to the challenges of decreasing the region’s dependence on its neighbor. Benchmark U.K. prices would need to rise 127 percent to attract liquefied natural gas if Europe had to replace all its Russian fuel for two summer months, according to Energy Aspects Ltd. Can't speak of Europe as one place in respect of energy. Baltic states Scandinavia and Poland are greatly dependent on Russian natural gas. Spain, Portugal, southern France not, to include the Med in general. Other states of the EU more or less. It varies. EU has had more than ample reserves and can shift them around. When the US decides around 2017 to release its new discoveries of natural gas into the global market Putin will again take more financial gas. Those prices are going to kill him too. I'd mentioned USA as one of the new energy sources of Nato/EU countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsh Jones Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 The 2nd Most Powerful Person in German Politics Wants ...russia-insider.com/en/2nd-most...wants-russia-sanctions-lifted/ri10147 Oct 3, 2015 - The 2nd Most Powerful Person in German Politics Wants Russia Sanctions Lifted. Germany's auto manufacturers are among the industries ... That's going nowhere as the concluding paragraph of the link points out. You're off topic anyway. Economic ties in energy especially date back to West Germany and USSR days. Those days are gone. Germany and the EU have already secured energy resources away from Russia, to include Madagascar, the USA and numerous other countries that are "non-strategic competitors" of Nato/EU. In other words, Putin's Chekist Russia had become a strategic competitor to Germany, EU, Nato. So no more dependency. Kaput. Germany still has its Russia and Putin boosters. It's just that they are in a steady and consistent decline. Former Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder of the pro-Russia Social Democratic Party has become the poster boy of how not to do it in Germany. Schroeder went to work for Putin at Gazprom then he became head of Nord Stream AG. SPD is scurrying now to put that new vote-loser and liability behind them in their next general election challenge against Merkel's Christian Democrats. So we see that simply posting news articles with links doesn't say much about what's actually occurring anywhere, anytime. Trying to create a headline bulletin board of posts doesn't cut it either. Oh sure. Europe could get gas from anywhere. If they want to pay double or 127% more which they could not afford even if they wanted to. Europe Seen Paying Twice as Much to Replace Russian Gas www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-03-28/europe-seen-paying... Europe Seen Paying Twice as Much to Replace Russian Gas. ... 37 percent in Germany and 16 percent in France. Belgium and Spain are among those who get no Russian fuel. Europe’s natural gas prices would have to double to lure enough cargoes from the global market to replace Russian supplies, adding to the challenges of decreasing the region’s dependence on its neighbor. Benchmark U.K. prices would need to rise 127 percent to attract liquefied natural gas if Europe had to replace all its Russian fuel for two summer months, according to Energy Aspects Ltd. Can't speak of Europe as one place in respect of energy. Baltic states Scandinavia and Poland are greatly dependent on Russian natural gas. Spain, Portugal, southern France not, to include the Med in general. Other states of the EU more or less. It varies. EU has had more than ample reserves and can shift them around. When the US decides around 2017 to release its new discoveries of natural gas into the global market Putin will again take more financial gas. Those prices are going to kill him too. I'd mentioned USA as one of the new energy sources of Nato/EU countries. US cant compete price wise with Russia. Nobody can hence why Gazprom is the worlds biggest gas company. Russia-China Deal Could Kill U.S. LNG Exports | OilPrice.comoilprice.com › Energy › Natural Gas Nov 18, 2014 - Following the Russia-China gas deal, which will effectively close off a huge market for US LNG exports, US energy export future seems to be in ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukecan Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 The 2nd Most Powerful Person in German Politics Wants ...russia-insider.com/en/2nd-most...wants-russia-sanctions-lifted/ri10147Oct 3, 2015 - The 2nd Most Powerful Person in German Politics Wants Russia Sanctions Lifted. Germany's auto manufacturers are among the industries ... That's going nowhere as the concluding paragraph of the link points out. You're off topic anyway.Economic ties in energy especially date back to West Germany and USSR days. Those days are gone.Germany and the EU have already secured energy resources away from Russia, to include Madagascar, the USA and numerous other countries that are "non-strategic competitors" of Nato/EU. In other words, Putin's Chekist Russia had become a strategic competitor to Germany, EU, Nato. So no more dependency. Kaput.Germany still has its Russia and Putin boosters. It's just that they are in a steady and consistent decline.Former Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder of the pro-Russia Social Democratic Party has become the poster boy of how not to do it in Germany. Schroeder went to work for Putin at Gazprom then he became head of Nord Stream AG. SPD is scurrying now to put that new vote-loser and liability behind them in their next general election challenge against Merkel's Christian Democrats.So we see that simply posting news articles with links doesn't say much about what's actually occurring anywhere, anytime. Trying to create a headline bulletin board of posts doesn't cut it either. Oh sure. Europe could get gas from anywhere. If they want to pay double or 127% more which they could not afford even if they wanted to.Europe Seen Paying Twice as Much to Replace Russian Gaswww.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-03-28/europe-seen-paying...Europe Seen Paying Twice as Much to Replace Russian Gas. ... 37 percent in Germany and 16 percent in France. Belgium and Spain are among those who get no Russian fuel.Europes natural gas prices would have to double to lure enough cargoes from the global market to replace Russian supplies, adding to the challenges of decreasing the regions dependence on its neighbor.Benchmark U.K. prices would need to rise 127 percent to attract liquefied natural gas if Europe had to replace all its Russian fuel for two summer months, according to Energy Aspects Ltd. Can't speak of Europe as one place in respect of energy.Baltic states Scandinavia and Poland are greatly dependent on Russian natural gas. Spain, Portugal, southern France not, to include the Med in general. Other states of the EU more or less. It varies. EU has had more than ample reserves and can shift them around.When the US decides around 2017 to release its new discoveries of natural gas into the global market Putin will again take more financial gas. Those prices are going to kill him too. I'd mentioned USA as one of the new energy sources of Nato/EU countries. US cant compete price wise with Russia. Nobody can hence why Gazprom is the worlds biggest gas company. Russia-China Deal Could Kill U.S. LNG Exports | OilPrice.comoilprice.com Energy Natural GasNov 18, 2014 - Following the Russia-China gas deal, which will effectively close off a huge market for US LNG exports, US energy export future seems to be in ... Azerbaijan can.tamam pipeline running from Azerbaijan to Europe via Turkey will be operational in 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 The CCP and Russia gas and energy deal is stalled due to hard times in each country. Construction needs to be done which will take years. Putin signed the deal during Ukraine and Western sanctions so Beijing charged Putin an arm and a leg cause he was frantic to sign to show the world he had friends. Beijing still is past due on its contracted advance of $25 bn to subsidise Russian construction so nothing's happening there either. Beijing is almost as broke as Moscow. EU and Nato know Putin uses his country's energy resources as strategic weapons. The movement is away from Russia as a supplier of energy. It won't be absolute for all the EU, but it will be a substantial and significant move already underway. Besides, say Putin did cut off current consumptions supplies 100%. He'd lose $1 billion a day. Yes, $1 bn a day predicated on a complete shutoff. Which is why he's never done a shutoff to Europe nor will he do a shutoff to Europe. Not to any extent. That is the wet dream of Putin fanboyz who don't have to make a budget for Russia or manage its economy. Presently Putin's losing money from Europe and nothing's happening with the China deal. The reason is that Putin can't see or think beyond his nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsh Jones Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Can't speak of Europe as one place in respect of energy. Baltic states Scandinavia and Poland are greatly dependent on Russian natural gas. Spain, Portugal, southern France not, to include the Med in general. Other states of the EU more or less. It varies. EU has had more than ample reserves and can shift them around. When the US decides around 2017 to release its new discoveries of natural gas into the global market Putin will again take more financial gas. Those prices are going to kill him too. I'd mentioned USA as one of the new energy sources of Nato/EU countries. US cant compete price wise with Russia. Nobody can hence why Gazprom is the worlds biggest gas company. Russia-China Deal Could Kill U.S. LNG Exports | OilPrice.com oilprice.com Energy Natural Gas Nov 18, 2014 - Following the Russia-China gas deal, which will effectively close off a huge market for US LNG exports, US energy export future seems to be in ... Azerbaijan can.tamam pipeline running from Azerbaijan to Europe via Turkey will be operational in 2018 They use Russian oil services companies. Quick View - SOCAR Signs Deal With Russian Energy Firm www.businessinsider.com/azerbaijan-politics-quick-view-socar-signs-dea... Jun 4, 2014 - Russia is solidifying its stake in the expanding energy sector. ... Presidential Press Service)Russian President Vladimir Putin claps as ... The State Oil Company of the Azerbaijan Republic (SOCAR) .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsh Jones Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 The CCP and Russia gas and energy deal is stalled due to hard times in each country. Construction needs to be done which will take years. Putin signed the deal during Ukraine and Western sanctions so Beijing charged Putin an arm and a leg cause he was frantic to sign to show the world he had friends. Beijing still is past due on its contracted advance of $25 bn to subsidise Russian construction so nothing's happening there either. Beijing is almost as broke as Moscow. EU and Nato know Putin uses his country's energy resources as strategic weapons. The movement is away from Russia as a supplier of energy. It won't be absolute for all the EU, but it will be a substantial and significant move already underway. Besides, say Putin did cut off current consumptions supplies 100%. He'd lose $1 billion a day. Yes, $1 bn a day predicated on a complete shutoff. Which is why he's never done a shutoff to Europe nor will he do a shutoff to Europe. Not to any extent. That is the wet dream of Putin fanboyz who don't have to make a budget for Russia or manage its economy. Presently Putin's losing money from Europe and nothing's happening with the China deal. The reason is that Putin can't see or think beyond his nose. List of Forign exchange reserves by country. 1 China[1] 3,590,270 Sep 2015[1] 7 Russia 364,100 Nov 13, 2015[8][9][10] 19 United States 119,640 Oct 30, 2015[25] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpinx Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 The CCP and Russia gas and energy deal is stalled due to hard times in each country. Construction needs to be done which will take years. Putin signed the deal during Ukraine and Western sanctions so Beijing charged Putin an arm and a leg cause he was frantic to sign to show the world he had friends. Beijing still is past due on its contracted advance of $25 bn to subsidise Russian construction so nothing's happening there either. Beijing is almost as broke as Moscow. EU and Nato know Putin uses his country's energy resources as strategic weapons. The movement is away from Russia as a supplier of energy. It won't be absolute for all the EU, but it will be a substantial and significant move already underway. Besides, say Putin did cut off current consumptions supplies 100%. He'd lose $1 billion a day. Yes, $1 bn a day predicated on a complete shutoff. Which is why he's never done a shutoff to Europe nor will he do a shutoff to Europe. Not to any extent. That is the wet dream of Putin fanboyz who don't have to make a budget for Russia or manage its economy. Presently Putin's losing money from Europe and nothing's happening with the China deal. The reason is that Putin can't see or think beyond his nose. List of Forign exchange reserves by country.1 China[1] 3,590,270 Sep 2015[1]7 Russia 364,100 Nov 13, 2015[8][9][10]19 United States 119,640 Oct 30, 2015[25] I didn't look, but I'm guessing that is quoted in US$'s ? China is the elephant in the room, and Russia has far more chance of doing a deal with them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2fishin2 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Talk about a bunch of irrelevant, posts on a topic. Reminder the topic at hand for this thread is about Turkey shooting down a warplane not about gas, oil, or foreign exchange reserves. SMDH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 The CCP and Russia gas and energy deal is stalled due to hard times in each country. Construction needs to be done which will take years. Putin signed the deal during Ukraine and Western sanctions so Beijing charged Putin an arm and a leg cause he was frantic to sign to show the world he had friends. Beijing still is past due on its contracted advance of $25 bn to subsidise Russian construction so nothing's happening there either. Beijing is almost as broke as Moscow. EU and Nato know Putin uses his country's energy resources as strategic weapons. The movement is away from Russia as a supplier of energy. It won't be absolute for all the EU, but it will be a substantial and significant move already underway. Besides, say Putin did cut off current consumptions supplies 100%. He'd lose $1 billion a day. Yes, $1 bn a day predicated on a complete shutoff. Which is why he's never done a shutoff to Europe nor will he do a shutoff to Europe. Not to any extent. That is the wet dream of Putin fanboyz who don't have to make a budget for Russia or manage its economy. Presently Putin's losing money from Europe and nothing's happening with the China deal. The reason is that Putin can't see or think beyond his nose. List of Forign exchange reserves by country.1 China[1] 3,590,270 Sep 2015[1]7 Russia 364,100 Nov 13, 2015[8][9][10]19 United States 119,640 Oct 30, 2015[25] Yes. This post is to confirm the accuracy of the US Government Foreign Reserve Position as of November 6, 2015, which is the latest data available from the Department of the Treasury: U.S. International Reserve Position 11/6/2015 The Treasury Department today released U.S. reserve assets data for the latest week. As indicated in this table, U.S. reserve assets totaled $117,958 million as of the end of that week, compared to $119,640 million as of the end of the prior week. https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/IR-Position/Pages/11062015.aspx So as any person perpetually in moon orbit can also see, the US Government experienced a decrease in its historically very very low and historically small if not tiny amount of foreign currency reserve holdings. All in just one week. Yes indeed, the USA shrunk its International Reserve Position by more than $2,000 usd units in just one short week. It btw keeps only euros (11,277 million value of 'em) and yen (10,154 million of 'em). USA has some gold....quite a lot actually. It has some SDRs at the IMF but nothing of significance, same as Brussels, Tokyo, London. No interest in the yuan thanks and equally zero interest in the rubble. Even the GBP is left out in the cold, so to speak. So yep, that would be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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