Xircal

Just need to clarify a few points before submitting my 60 day Tourist Application.

I'll be coming to Thailand again in October and will be staying with my GF for 3 months. I've already purchased the flight which shows my arrival and departure dates with the latter being in January 2011. Since it's a cheap flight, I can't change the dates now.

1. My first question is, in the "Proposed address field", should I put her name on the application form, or is just her address sufficient?
2. If I put her name, am I going to be asked to provide a photocopy of her ID etc.?
3. In the "Purpose of visit" field, should I write "Holiday" as the reason, or would "Visit girlfriend" be better?
4. In the "Duration of proposed stay", should I write "60 days" and then in brackets add "plus 30 day extension", or just leave it at 60 days? If I leave it at 60 days, is this likely to cause a problem since my flight shows I'll be staying 90 days? I'm assuming here that I'm going to be asked to provide proof of my return flight.
5. Does she become the "Local guarantor" if I stay with her, or just I just fill in "Self".
6. If I fill in "Self", should I write down her address, or my home address?
7. Should the apartment owner (not her) inform the Immigration authorities that I'm staying there when I arrive? In that respect, he doesn't know I'm coming yet.

I have a good record as regards past visits and have always left Thailand on time before. Is this likely to count in my favour, or arouse suspicion because instead of leaving within the normal 30 days, I'm now going to be staying 3 months, but won't be residing in a hotel.

Thanks in advance.

For 1000 baht a night you can get a room in the C&N hotel including breakfast.

2 minutes walk from Bangla road and in a side street that is not noisy

Stayed there myself once. OK, if you're under 6 foot, otherwise your feet will stick out the end of the bed. I had to sleep diagonally all the time because of that.

Try Hotel Sole, 188/31-32 Phangmuang Sai3 Road which is the road that runs parallel with Rat-u-Thid Road, but behind Jungceylon. Run by an Italian guy; includes breakfast with cappuccino, caffe latte and fresh tart (cornetti).

Standard room 500B or Superior with balcony for 600B until 31 October. Small pool on the roof if you fancy a dip.

<br />Depends on where you apply.  Bangkok requires one.  Any place else will likely require more as one has to be sent to Bangkok.<br />

I suppose I should err on the side of caution and take two.

Thanks anyway.

A tourist visa is for tourism so that would be a good answer as to why you want to stay another 30 days.

You enter your information in both places. If you were just in town to file the application you would put where you planned to be on the address line and your current hotel/location below your name. For most people it will be the same.

I have a question regarding the extension of temporary stay as well.

There appears to be a space for a photo on the form. Do they require one photo or two?

So if I go stay with my GF for a couple of months, fill in the TM card at the airport correctly, who has to inform the Police? My GF, or the apartment owner (who doesn't know I'm there even)?

By the way, it might be a good idea to correct the info @ http://www.thaivisa.com/425.0.html

The example is described as a Tourist Visa, but shows an application for a Non-Imm 'O' I believe.

Consulate should be happy with a return ticket if they even ask - tourist visa entry is routinely extended 30 days. Normally the requirement for tickets is used for third country nationals but it does vary from one place to another.

You can obtain an extension of stay at any immigration office where you are located.

OK, thanks.

Presumably I would write the duration of my stay as 60 days even though I propose to extend it once I'm there?

Apply for a Tourist Visa ( they are free at the moment).

This gives 60 days and can be extended for a further 30 days at Immigration for a fee of 1,900 .Baht.

Thanks for that, but will the Thai consulate not expect me to provide evidence of a return flight within that 60 day period rather than within 90 days?

One other question though. My GF lives in Phuket. Can I apply for a 30 day extension at immigration on that island, or do I have to go to Bangkok? My entry point into Thailand was to have been Bangkok, but I can also fly via Kuala Lumpur/Phuket if that would be better. What do you think?

I read the stickies, but don't see the answer to my question there anywhere.

So what I want to do is to come to Thailand to visit my GF and stay for 90 days. Also, I will be staying with her and therefore won't be wasting money on hotel bills.

What I'm confused about is how to book my plane ticket so that it ties in with my visa application. So if I booked a return ticket to return to my own country in 90 days time, will the Thai consulate grant me a 60 day tourist visa which I would then extend for 30 days at an immigtration office in Thailand, or is this likely to confuse matters when I make my initial application?

A Non-Imm 'O' would seem to be the best way to go, but from reading the list of reasons available to obtain one @ http://www.thaiconsu...rg/descr_uk.asp I don't see the option to use it simply for vacation purposes.

Can anybody offer any advice on the subject?

I can't find anything about this on any other news site which seems a bit odd for such as high level accident.

Maybe somebody is inventing news to draw readers to their site.

This is the website.

http://www.thaiconsulate-amsterdam.org/home_nl.asp

In Dutch.......

They also have an English language site: http://www.thaiconsulate-amsterdam.org/home_uk.asp

4 door 6800bht road tax. Full comp insurance is a must for you. Here you end up behind bars if someone gets hurt with less insurance. Depends on year etc. l pay 14k bht full comp.

Hmmm....don't fancy the idea of free board & lodging at a Thai jail somehow, so I'll have to consider coughing up the extra cost I suppose.

Thanks for the quick response anyway.

Can anyone tell me what Road Tax costs in Thailand? The vehicle I'm interested in is an Isuzu D-Max pickup.

Also, what will Third Party, Fire & Theft insurance cost on this type of vehicle? If that doesn't exist in Thailand, what does Comprehensive cover costs?

No. Your permit is issued for the duration of your contract and you don't leave.

^ Yes, your initial non-B visa will be good for 90 days. If you get a multiple entry visa, you can use it the way you outlined above. However, most people get a Work Permit with their job. You can take this WP and some other paperwork to immigration and get a one year extension. Once you have the one year extension, you don't have to leave the country until you want to or until you leave the job.

I haven't left Thailand for over 2 years.

Well, that's good to hear. I had visions of eating up the proceeds of my job paying for bus fares and visa fees.

First of all, my apologies for not responding to the additions made by several contributors to my thread just lately. Thanks for the info people.

But one thing that concerns me now is the whole rigmorole surrounding a Non-Imm 'B' (Teaching) Visa. For what I've been reading on the Visa orientated forum, a Non-Imm 'B' will only be issued for 90 days after which I'm expected to leave the country and re-enter 10 minutes or so later and hand over 1,900 Baht in order to receive another 90 days extension (form TM7). This can be done four times officially, or five times if one applies seven days prior to its one year expiry date.

So once the 15 months are up, one presumably has to apply for a completely new visa. If that is indeed the case, are there any restrictions regarding how many times a new one can be applied for? Also, I presume it means applying at a Thai Consulate somewhere. Any recommendations on that score?

Also, I'm thinking that job location is going to be determined by the nearest border if indeed I have to exit and re-enter every 90 days, otherwise the cost of travelling from say Khon Buri to Cambodia every time is going to make the cost of living too expensive.

Thanks for the comments and criticisms guys, most welcome.

I accept that teaching as a means on deriving an income which will qualify for a marriage visa isn't ideal, but with the restrictions Thailand imposes on foreigners wanting to do most other jobs, I don't really have much choice if I want to settle down here with my GF. Maybe I'll have to forget the marriage visa side and just rely on Non-Imm 'B's for the time being.

I have enough info to proceed on that basis and it will simply be a case of passing the TEFL now and then finding a job.

I take on board the fact that I'm not getting any younger, but I'm healthy, I don't look my age and people seem to like me when they meet me, so I'm hoping that will count in my favour when I meet prospective employers.

Neither am I looking for the big bucks although anything which exceeds my expectations will be most welcome.

Can anybody recommend any Provinces where the odds will count in my favour? I thought about Isaan with Buriram as a possible starting point. Does anybody have any other suggestions?

What role does age play in teaching vacancies? I often see 35 years old as the upper limit for teachers. This worries me a bit since I'm 66 already and intend to do a TEFL course later this year with a view to getting a teaching job so that I can marry my Thai GF and settle down in Thailand.

I don't have a BA or any other degree either which probably doesn't help.

Would I be advised to look for work in Bangkok, or move on out into the sticks? I don't care where I go and neither does my GF. I'm not looking for a high salary and just 15,000 Baht a month would more than suffice to supplement my pension and bring it to just abve the 40K a month requirement to get a marriage visa extension.

Any tips will be most appreciated.

<br />That information is totally false. The income must be yours alone and it can not be combined with savings. It is either 400k in bank 2 months or 40k monthly income. The laws changed over 15 months ago.<br />

Well, if that's indeed the case, then my only option will be to do a TEFL course somewhere, obtain a certificate and then find a job to supplement my pension in order to meet the 40,000B p.m. requirement. I only need a job which will pay me about 15,000B a month, so it shouldn't be too difficult. The only thing that concerns me a littlle is growing old and possibly becoming incapacitated and unable to work. But I'll cross that bridge when I come to it I think.

I've just been making some calculations and notice that I'm going to run into a problem as regards the 40,000B income requirement. <br /><br />The situation is slightly complicated by the fact that I'm a Brit living in the Netherlands on a Dutch retirement pension, the latter of which has been reduced in value because I've only lived here for 28 years. Since I didn't maintain national insurance contributions after leaving the UK, I don't qualify for pension from there unfortunately. However, I have savings which when added together to my income, will exceed the sum of 400,000B which I believe is the annual income requirement. What I'm a little confused by here is how I have to demonstrate what my annual income (savings plus retirement pension) actually is because from what I've read in other posts on this forum, I won't be able to open a Thai bank account if I'm not resident there. <br /><br />Also, on the "Affirmation of Freedom to Marry" document, should I state my income in Euros, or convert it into Sterling? If I have to convert it, do I have to use the prevailing exchange rate, or is there another rate which is always used?

EDIT: I've just read on the Siam-Legal (dot) com site that the annual 400,000B requirement has been scrapped and replaced by 40,000B a month as a minimum income, but that this latter sum can comprise of both the foreigner's income and that of his spouse. Since my gf doesn't have any income, I'll have to consider getting a job of some sort or another I suppose.

<br />&quot;House Registration Certificate&quot; for Thai nationals?<br />Tabien Baan blue book, every Thai has to be registered in one (usually their parents house)<br /><br />Not required for marriage (well my gf didn't have it with her when we got married)<br />But we did need it when she changed the name on her ID card.<br />

Can anybody tell me what is meant by a "House Registration Certificate" for Thai nationals? That's mentioned on the Siam-Legal (dot) com website as a required document for obtaining a marriage certificate.

Also, Can I marry her even though I'm not resident in Thailand at the moment?

OK, my thanks to both of you for clarifying that point.

I don't envisage a problem satisfying income requirements because I'm retired already and receive a pension of 30,000 Baht a month. So I would only need a teaching job which pays 10,000 Baht a month in order to fulfil the necessary criteria.

The following is a copy/paste operation taken from the Thai Ministry of Foreigh Affairs site:

2.4 Non-Immigrant Visa Category “B” (Teaching) Foreigners who intend to take up employment as school teachers at the levels below university level in Thailand must submit the following required documents:

- Passport or travel document with validity of not less than 6 months

- Completed visa application form

- Recent passport-sized photograph (4 x 6 cm) of the applicant taken within the past 6 months.

- Letter of acceptance from employing institute or school in Thailand.

- Letter of approval from government agencies such as the Office of the Private Education Commission, the Office of the Basic Education Commission.

- Evidence of educational qualification such as diplomas or teaching certificates.

- School license or business registration, list of shareholders and school profile.

- Applicant’s resume.

- Police certificate verifying that applicant has no criminal record or equivalents or letter issued by authorised agencies in applicant’s country. (The requirement of the submission of such police certificate is optional. The applicant must submit it if consular officer requests he/she to do so. This requirement is effective as from May 2007)

So I assume that once I've obtained one of those, I can then apply for the Non-Imm "O" extension in order to live permanently in Thailand. Or do I still have to do visa runs in spite of being married to a Thai national?

My own question is related to this same subject. As I understand it from the info provided on the Thaivisa.com page, the information described as "Non-Imm O extension based on marriage with a Thai National" seems to indicate that the visa is an extension of some other type i.e. a Non-Immigrant "B" for example.

Is this correct, or is it only applicable to certain types of visa? If there aren't any restrictions, can I apply for the extension with a normal 60 day Tourist Visa?

In this respect, I plan to marry my Thai girlfriend after which I will relocate to Thailand. Our joint income would exceed the minimum income described in the article initially, but I plan to teach in Thailand once I've obtained a TEFL certificate and assume my income alone will suffice to meet the appropriate requirements after that.