moto77

Stupid thing for the govt. to do. 2016 is turning out to be the year of the idiots.

That's weird. I thought that was last year. I always lose track of these things...

They do this deliberately to gain publicity, get themselves a name on the media and show off to their mates. To them it`s just a laugh and the 500 baht fine means nothing, money well spent as far as they are concerned.

A prison sentence or a heavy fine would have been more appropriate otherwise this behavior is going to gain more popularity in the future.

LOL... and who really cares?

Take his taxi license away for life.

Charge him with assault.

Oh right.

a 500 baht fine, license suspension for a week, and a public apology for harming Thailand's image.

This is the one thing that the US legal system helps with. He (and probably his company) would end up being sued and paying 25% of his salary to the victim for the rest of his life if this happened in the US. (He'd probably disappear, but at least he wouldn't be driving taxis any more. And the taxi companies would be wary about keeping people like this around because they would end up with the bills.) I hate the frivolous lawsuits there, but the threat of a lawsuit usually puts the damper on this kind of thing. For a Thai guy, taking his cash would be the best deterrent.

If the guy was in fact guilty then I think he got his just desserts. If not, the prison authorities have some serious issues to address (as they did before anyhow)

Yeah, my understanding is that there is a lot of this crap going on in the upcountry. If we saw more backlash like this, maybe it would stop. So, while I'm not in favor of vigilante justice, I guess protesting this case won't be high on my agenda.

He looks more like 64

Hmm... I've seen better looking 74 year olds.

Hello all, My name is Billy Billy and I ate a watermelon today. Let me show you a picture, and a picture of me, and me smiling, and please like this post

I am super, super important. I've never worked, my dad better send his check today, and my iphone89+ cost my mom $11,000. she was cheap, but i love her.

I want to show my 298374324 friends (1 sort-of real friend) how special I am going to Thailand..

No selfie????? I WOULD HAVE NO IDENTITY!!!!

mommmmmmy!!!!!!

Bitter much?

Exactly what I was thinking. LOL

Many Thais have bank accounts overseas, own houses, businesses etc but extend the same considerations to foreigners here, absolutely not can't have any of Thailand in the hands of mere foreigners.

Well except for Americans.

He obviously shouldn't have been over charged, but many countries have a policy like this. Particularly 3rd world countries.

Thais are rolling snake eyes. Alternatively known as "crapping out."

Thats not right. "Crapping out" is throwing a 7 when you are on a point. You still control the dice when you roll a 2; you just lose your bet.

If DNA tests and trial proves guilt they should be subjected to life in general population.

The mother should get life in the men's general population. That would be justice.

The only way to end this madness is for immediate reciprocation from western nations to make the sons and daughters of the Thai elite start visa running - with clear doubts over their re-entry being cast. Once these little darlings have been forced to leave their luxury dwellings to flit off to Calais or other migrant infested hellholes with no real idea when or if they will be allowed to return, there will be an awakening.

And then perhaps Thailand will require all tourists from say the UK, to have visas, as the UK requires of them.

That would be reciprocation too.

That would be absolutely FINE with me. The US gives Thais who qualify a 10 year visa with 180 day stamps for $160, 5800 baht. That's exactly what I want.

So PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE just go ahead and make it reciprocal, rather than changing these nonsense rules every other month.

There is a paid longterm visa available for Thailand -- it's called the Elite card.

I guess you missed my pricing info. I'm asking for reciprocity, not a complete ripoff.

The only way to end this madness is for immediate reciprocation from western nations to make the sons and daughters of the Thai elite start visa running - with clear doubts over their re-entry being cast. Once these little darlings have been forced to leave their luxury dwellings to flit off to Calais or other migrant infested hellholes with no real idea when or if they will be allowed to return, there will be an awakening.

And then perhaps Thailand will require all tourists from say the UK, to have visas, as the UK requires of them.

That would be reciprocation too.

That would be absolutely FINE with me. The US gives Thais who qualify a 10 year visa with 180 day stamps for $160, 5800 baht. That's exactly what I want.

So PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE just go ahead and make it reciprocal, rather than changing these nonsense rules every other month.

so, why are people getting refused at the borders who are simply 'activating' the 2nd part of their 60 days tourist visa ?????

If you had a 60 day tourist visa you wouldn't be doing a visa run in the first place. You do not "activate" anything. You get a 60 day stamp to begin with.

Glad to see this kind of relationship happening more and more often here. A lot of the Western women I know here won't date Thais and complain that the Western guys in Thailand won't date them. I hope this is a trend that sticks.

LOL... this girl is NOT a high society Thai person. Not a chance in hell.

Thanks for everyones replies: I suppose she dosn't have to be thai I'd like to meet the right person reguardless of where she is born. Honestly I'm tired of western women. I'm 36 years old and succesful with my own business and I don't have a problem finding women. I'm sure there are some good ones out there, but there are just so many issues. If they have a job, then they do not have the time that I have to go places and do things. I started my business so I would never be trapped by a corporation or employer. I can go where I want when I want. Being with somone that has those restrictions is not the way I want to live my life. My last relationship this was an isssue. I go places and she had to always work and would angry that I was going to go anyway. She wanted me to stop traveling because she couldn't go. It just wasn't working.

Then there are the other types. The ones that are fine without working, but don't make Makeing a home and a life for their husband a priority. They like to not work but don't want to work on a home life and being a loveing wife. There are some, but woman like this are found in religons. I am spiritual, but I could never marry a christian woman. I love the bhuddist tradition and have incorperated much of it into my personal philosophy.

I don't know. It seems like a thai woman that is not in the bar scene could be a wonderful choice That is of course if she could fall in love with me aswell.

Honestly, I kike the idea of being able to bring someone and maybe her family out of a poor situation as well or at least help. Is it wrong to want to be your love's knight in shining armor. I don't want some kind of control. I'm a sap remeber. Chances are she will where the boots anyway. I would enjoy Makeing a life with a deserving person.

Thai women are most likely bhuddist. I love this philosophy and want to emerse myself in it. I will be staying at a monestary for a while to learn more. It seems like a natural fit. Am I wrong? I'm not planning on looking for a girl in the bar scene, but i don't know where the wind will take me. That's why I'm posting here to gather information.

Certainly if other options present themselves I'm an open book Thai or not Thai, but I have never been one not to chase my dreams. This is the one thing missing for me.

There are nice Thai women available, but you pretty much need to be here full time, or close to it, and be lucky to find one. My gf is great, but she's had virtually no interaction with Westerners prior to me, and I kinda lucked out. Check their Facebook friends. If they have 100s of Western guys, I'd be very suspect. My GF has 0 western friends other than me. She has a master's degree and works for the Thai government.

Honestly, have you considered Philippines? Its a bit easier to meet a nice girl there IMO.

If you are a professional of some kind, Hong Kong is a goldmine, with a ratio of about 84 men per 100 women--but the women there are notoriously picky. You need a college degree and preferably a master's degree (as most of them have) to pull from the local population. Honestly, I found it easier to date in Hong Kong than Thailand--assuming you aren't going for bar girls.

I don't give my GF anything per month; she has a job. I give small gifts now and then (like a dress, or a pair of shoes) and pretty nice gifts for her birthday and new year's. She pays for her own apartment. She makes the car payments 100%. I pay part of the insurance, because she drives me around a lot. Pretty much exactly the arrangement I had with Western GFs in the past.

I don't get people who pay their GF. Seems weird to me.

There is a counter point I would make. When you enter the US with a visa, you are questioned about the purpose of your visit and how long you intend to stay. If you really intend a 6 month stay, you will need to justify it pretty well or there is a good chance you will be denied entry. That is after a Thai might well have been grilled at interview before even being issued a visa. As a general rule, entry to Thailand with a visa, and, in most cases visa exempt entry, is permitted automatically. For a US citizen to get tourist visas for Thailand is trivial. It is an apples and oranges comparison.

It's not really.

1. The main point is that the visa lasts for 10 years for $160, not the length of the stay.

2. And you won't have a problem unless you try to stay more than 180 days in a year if you have a reason. We have lots of Brits in Florida who do just that: arrive for 180 days in the winter months. Why? They have winter homes.

You cannot get such a visa in Thailand and that is my point. The US should not be giving such visas to Thais when there is no reciprocal visa available.

Your point about the interview process is a red herring. If Thailand wants me to interview at their consulate in Miami once every 10 years, I'm happy to do so.

So you think you could show me someone that has recently obtained 6 30 day stamps back to back (equivalent to a 180 day entry in the US)? Sorry, you're wrong. There is a limit. It just isn't stated. Again, that broad discretion that immigration officers have that you don't seem to understand even though its plain to everyone else.

Yes I can !

I have a friend who is married to a Thai . He works outside Thailand and returns every other month using a visa exempt entry. Never a problem and his passport is stuffed with 30 day stamps!

Sorry you are very wrong !

You've replied to a question you were not asked. I said back-to-back, which is EVERY MONTH. Not EVERY OTHER MONTH.

The United States also states quite clearly under the conditions of the visas that they give that... It isn't a guaranteed right of passage but simply lets you ask permission for the right to enter at the relevant port of call and that you can be rejected for any reason.

And so does Thailand and every other country in the world.

In fact, the rejection rate is less than .1%.

Anyone know whether they require proof of address in Bangkok?

I can cite Thailand's immigration law which is all that matters. US law is irrelevant.

Then cite it. Pretty funny that you say that you can cite the law, yet you didn't.

They cannot legally do any of the things you accuse them of.

If you beleive they have the powers you claim then point us to the Act granting those powers.

You seem to be confusing what some IO's do with what they are legally allowed to do. Big difference.

I'm not going to argue, because I cannot cite Thai law, nor can you. However I can provide US cases and tell you that it works the same way everywhere. Whether you believe that or not is up to you, but you should stop providing this information, because it is not true. (You can say, "that's just US law" if you wish, and I would then tell you to cite Thai case law... however, barring you providing the Thai case law, I'm done here because this is pointless.)

Generally, federal courts have considered a consular officer’s decision unreviewable and, thus, have refused to review a visa denial.1 Known as the doctrine of consular nonreviewability or consular absolutism, this practice first emerged in two appellate cases in the 1920s and from the INA’s grant of broad discretion to consular officers. In United States ex rel. London v. Phelps,2 the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, in dicta, refused to review a visa denial because of the diplomatic nature of granting and denying visas.3 In United States ex rel. Ulrich v. Kellogg,4 the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit argued that review was unavailable because the Immigration Act of 1924 lacked a provision granting review over consular officers’ decisions.5 Section 104(a) of the INA states that [t]he Secretary of State shall be charged with the administration and the enforcement of the provisions of this chapter and all other immigration and nationality laws relating to (1) the powers, duties, and functions of diplomatic and consular officers of the United States, except those powers,duties, and functions conferred upon the consular officers relating to the granting or refusal of visas . . . .6 Courts interpret this provision as granting consular officers broad authority over visa decisions.7

"The US just concluded a reciprocal agreement with China for 10 year visas"

Tell the US to pull the finger out and conclude similar agreements with all other countries .

Would the Chinese agreement have anything to do with the massive US $ dept owed to China ? .

No... nothing to do with that. The 10 year US tourist visa is common. For whatever reason the US already gives them to Thais as I said. Thailand does not reciprocate. I think the US should rethink this given the fact that Thailand has become so restrictive on its 30 day stamps. When they were virtually unlimited it was a different story.

There is no restriction on what you call 30 day stamps .

There is only restriction on those who attempt to use repeated back to back "30 day stamps" as a means of staying long term or working illegally .

So you think you could show me someone that has recently obtained 6 30 day stamps back to back (equivalent to a 180 day entry in the US)? Sorry, you're wrong. There is a limit. It just isn't stated. Again, that broad discretion that immigration officers have that you don't seem to understand even though its plain to everyone else.

Sorry to say but I believe you to be "totally wrong" !

End of debate ............

LOL... I could care less. I didn't post it for you. You can believe the moon is made of cheese if you like.

I posted it so that people can be aware of misinformation. Anyone who NEEDS to know and doesn't believe me can ask an attorney and they will be told the same thing.