moto77

hehehehe 60,000 dollars really isn't that much, last 20 years maybe

60000 dollars last 20 years? not a snowballs chance in hell of lasting 20 years!

Yeah, and not only that, someone's forgotten that inflation happens in paradise too. Hopefully he has a 20 year lease on that place at 2000 baht per month and a 20 year supply of canned goods.

Maybe it is a UK document then. But there is not a one-size fits all prenup that will work in every jurisdiction. For example, in Florida you have to disclose your income and assets (or you can waive disclosure in the prenup document)--if one of these two things is not there, the prenup is invalid regardless of how well it is written. Also, what if you had a business (or planned to start one) do off the shelf forms handle that situation? Do they handle the distribution of assets when you die? There are many potential issues.

Who can blame any girl for trying to get a few extra baht out of these fat old western idiots. You regularly meet the heartbroken 50 somethings who can't understand why they can't find the right 25 year old Thai bar girl.

But it's probably more the bar girl than the age of the guy.... don't date bar girls. I'm not saying that there may not be 1 in 1000 that is a good person, but I am saying that finding that person is nearly impossible.

Only date local professional or office girls and only the ones who are not asking you for money. That's it. Never offer money and dump anyone that asks you for money.

 

 

 I want to know if there is anything she can do to get divorce under thai law, without me having to pay bribe to husband.

Yeah, Thai law makes no such restriction. She's taking you for 30K buddy. Don't believe us! Talk to a Thai attorney. Then shake her off. You're being scammed. Hope you listen to us. 

Downloaded forms might be ok if your situation is VERY simple and in Thailand. But if you are going to live in the US/UK/Canada and have or are likely to have substantial assets, I think you would be crazy not to use an attorney IN THE JURISDICTION IN WHICH YOU PLAN TO LIVE.

Love triangle with the cow and the two friends? What would cause a friend to murder his friend over sexually assaulting a cow? Bizzare tales from LOS

They were living together. Maybe it was jealousy.

A 20 year old girl in our marriage just married last week with a SS of 40,000 Baht. Two days ago she dumped the guy.

Three days ago our neighbour dumped her hubby for the past 9 years because her parents told her to do because he is a Cheap Charley, selling sandwiches.

She is now on Thai Love Links and dreaming to finally own a house. Yesterday she came once again to our house and asked my Mrs for advise as their are three farangs ready to fly down to meet her parents. She is asking for 500k, have a nine year old son and she gambles daily.

Haha... if she can find some fool to pay that, great. She must be pretty hot. Wonder if the guys know about the money yet?

Please delete.

Dude, just stop. You are posting random case law that you do not know how to interpret.

For example, my attorney used Castro vs. Castro to successfully defend my prenup in Florida. It was a Florida case.

*I* had a prenup IN FLORIDA that WAS UPHELD by the courts--FACT. That trumps your legal theory.

There were things I could have done better which would have reduced my defense costs, but Florida regularly upholds prenups, regardless of what you post. The Florida Supreme Court has even awarded attorneys' fees against the spouse attempting to set the prenuptial agreement aside.

Is there a risk? Yes. I'm not sure that I would marry again. But to say that prenups are worthless in every jurisdiction) is to be ignorant of current legal practice. In your home country of Australia, you might be correct, but that is NOT the case in the US or UK.

I would be interested to know if the op scarpolo is american,as to them how much is so important,how much do you make at work,how much this ,how much that,in the Uk /australia we consider this very vulgar and it is rarely if ever a subject to be discussed.

I don't think most Americans will ask how much you make or how much your stuff costs either. Maybe vulgar ones, but not normal people.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jefflanders/2013/04/02/five-reasons-your-prenup-might-be-invalid/

http://www.cmrlawyers.com.au/prenups.asp

yeah I know nothing......

Oz

Yeah, I said that already.

The first lists five reasons. Almost every state law lists the first three in their prenup law and anyone with any sense wouldn't violate those. Fraud? Carelessness? Duress? LOL. The last two are NOT reasons that a prenup can be invalidated in Florida. Those two only apply to certain states.

The second one deals with Australia and the OP is planning to live in America, so it is completely irrelevant to this discussion.

Hello,

I would like to thank all the contributors who have replied so far. It is really nice that people are willing to take the time to give advice.

With regard to contributor Dante99, considering what I am seeking, Dante99 should consider how silly their question is in asking if I may be racist; yet maybe their question to me was not meant seriously.

I would also add that although I am not sure what the affect of marrying a Thai citizen is, I am given to understand that you are not then subject to the visa and also that you can then apply for a work permit.

Regards,

Robert333

Edit: OK, so I see you have an OA visa.

Which is not eligible for a work permit, just to clarify.

I've had good luck online. You might give that a try.

If you plan to live in the US you will need a prenup that complies with both Thai law and the law of the state you are planning to live.

In addition, it is advisable to make sure your wife has her own legal council/lawyer. If not, it can be contested based on that she didn't know what she was signing and you had legal representation and she not.

No you don't. It only needs to comply with the law of the jurisdiction where you are planning to marry and live. If you will marry and live in a US State, it does NOT need to comply with Thai law.

Independent council is not required in Florida, but it may help to establish that there was no overreaching.

AND VIDEOTAPE THE ENTIRE SIGNING, especially the part where the document is explained to your fiancee in Thai by her own attorney!

If you actually do any research in to prenups, you will find they are not worth the paper they are written on if there is any problem and the end of a relationship, either party can contest it easily with legal representation. This especially holds true if the language used is not native to one of the signatories. Some included legal problems are, if independent lawyers are not used, constant revision of said contract etc etc etc.... Its a bluff. Just don't let her know that! Do some more homework.

Oz

I got divorced with a prenup in Florida and I can tell you first hand that you are completely wrong about this. Don't mislead people about what you don't know. It does somewhat depend on the STATE, however. Be sure to put in the prenup that if it is contested and upheld that the contesting party will pay the legal expenses of BOTH parties. This usually prevents them from being contested in the first place.

Florida WILL uphold prenups if they meet Florida guidelines (which I posted in the link above).

tell me if i am wrong but isnt it easier to have a 'O' type visa than a 'B' with regard to staying in Thailand

It depends on how you got your B. If you have a job in Thailand and a work permit, I think a B is equally easy. If you're just hanging around, then you're right.

(And they accuse women of getting married for visas... sheesh )

I think not getting married at all is better. What's the point?

I'm a retired attorney from Ft.Lauderdale,Florida. I live in Bangkok with my Thai wife who is an attorney here in Thailand. She has prepared numerous Pre-Nups. The document must be prepared in Thai and English text on the same pages when presented to the district office for approval.The cost varies depending on the number of pages required to be translated.If you have any further questions please refer them to [email protected]

All above is correct...Make sure that the translation into Thai is done by a certified (and recognised by your Embassy) translation office. The Thai version has also to mention that your wife agrees and understands the content, this has to be signed by 2 witnesses. You can prepare the document at your home country and validate it at your Embassy, together with your wife.

Good Luck!

I don't think the USA embassy will get involved. Prenups in America are a State issue.

On one occasion, the photos included a photo of the TG's sisters new house under construction.

I could feel her envy..... until the deeper ramifications (..for me) kicked in.

This particular TG was a lawyer by profession.

Huh... as Monty Python once famously said, "Run Awaaaaaaaay!"

The problem with the question is that you will get the same blinkered nonsense from the same people who wholly believe in what they post, but have no real grasp of the intricacies of each individual situation.

I know of one recent marriage, both Thai, the lady previously married with a child and sinsot and Gold were paid.

So there you go, two responses, two wholly differing answers.

Each situation is different, it is the point of view and knowledge of posters that will matter.

Good Luck with this one, it will run to pages and you will very little valuable data from it.

TRADITIONALLY if the woman was not a VIRGIN then there was no bride price. Well, no one is a virgin anymore, so it evolved to: "if she was not married before and did not have kids then you paid, if she was or did, you didn't pay." More recently, even women with kids are getting a bride price in some cases, though I think you could push back against this pretty easily if you wanted to.

Interesting. I've been going out with my gf for quite a while and I've yet to see a photo of her family (except on her Facebook, but those photos predate our relationship and were not intended solely for me).

Another signpost very early in the courtship behaviours of these "beautiful aliens" is a sudden, uninvited showing of photos of their family and their circumstances.

This display is similar to the "unannounced friends" scenario in its suddenness and it can almost feel out of context with the social moment at the time.

This methodology may reflect their inner nervousness because of the significance of this act to them, albeit unknown to the oblivious falang at the time.

"uninvited showing of photos?"

What do you mean by that? I can't remember anyone showing me family photos on a date before--unless I asked.

I've observed that most of the posts that say you can't date an educated, middle class Thai woman also contain bad grammar, no punctation, and/or are generally incomprehensible for one reason or another.

On the other hand, most of those that say the opposite are well written.

Coincidence?

Why do you think a woman of that level would want to be with a farang man?

What an odd question. Because she liked him?

Why do women normally want to be with you?

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