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1.Thais in Thailand = Poor, rural, no way out

2.Thai Women = Poor, Pretty, No money for University, Most times only option is to sell her body to maybe go to University or Support herself/family

3.Tourist/Expats = Have decent money, love sex, love women the opposite of there home country which is small, dependent, dark, pleasant, nice, obedient, submissive, and can't talk back

so add 2 and 3 together and boom, she want's their money to benefit her life, they want her body to benefit their ego or loneliness, she's gets their money she gets to survive a few more days/months, and they have many stories to tell about a "hooker"

So this is why thailand women have that bad reputation in my eyes. Internet don't make it any better either.

If it makes you feel any better: I did a stint in Holland at Uni during '95. A knew a lot of local ladies who attended classes during the day and would supplement their er . . . "living expenses" by parading themselves in the windows tapping on it when a "customer" passed. Not all of them; but plenty enough to see that it was an income for plenty of them.

Also, I am totally against pornography ahem . . . but if you look at porn industry where do you think all those US and UK and elsewhere young ladies that star in those $20 billion a year industry movies disappear to when they're not shooting for the day? Considering many movies are shot within two or three days? I pass no judgement . . . . just wondering . . . .

Back in my home country some girls still in school sell to the bidder with the nicest car and deepest pockets; most times a teacher at the school or even the parent of a school mate. And they're not all poor; they just want to keep abreast of the latest fashion.

Maybe Thailand has a bad rap amongst some of the ex pat community living there; because lotsa people I know are chomping at the bits to go there for holiday; most of them married couples.

(Edit: fixing my generalisations)

Are you familar with the Thoreau quote:

"Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them."

Thought that was Pink Floyd......

"In quiet desperation; knuckles white upon the slippery reins"

I think that's the Pink Floyd quote you're looking for

Some years ago when I was teaching high school (grades 9, 11 and 12) I would manufacture a large sign with the transgression written in large font on it and tell those misbehaving to hold the sign high and walk around the school or stand in the center court yard for all to see. Worked like a charm. The younger ones thought it was fun while embarrassing; the bigger kids just thought it was embarrassing.

Given the whole saving face element of Muang Thai, how would this go down as a measure to discipline kids?

Had some work-friends that changed their names. Makes for confusing talks when they are involved with foreign customers, when the new senior programmer suddenly has a new name 'but is the same guy'. They must think we where BSing them...

In anyway, the reasons told are usually 'create luck', 'change my luck' and 'my name's first letter didn't run well with the weekday I was born on' (again, with an outcome of not enough luck...).

Got caught out by some business connection's name change too . . . . I thought someone was trying a fats on me lol!

My GF says the girl who changed her name met some new guy and she changed her name so she can leave her past behind her and "start a new future". Is is just the younger generation or do some of the more "mature" demographic do it too?

I've heard and met some Thai ladies who have changed their names. One said it was because the new name was lucky.

Is this a common thing? Is it really because it's lucky? Just curious . . . .

Dengue is nothing to take lightly. Some might consider it's symptoms to be more painful than malarial counterparts. A reasonable healthy individual can muddle through for the duration - need to watch the most vulnerable, the aged and toddlers. What they do know about the Dengue bug is that it lacks the mutation properties that malarial viruses have acquired to generate resistance to the prophylaxis that we've thrown at these nasties. There is interesting literature available regarding the treatment and prevention of Dengue. It seems to me that modern allopathic Western approaches to mosquito-born viruses are more troubling to any sort of combat than what has been proven in the natural world - the bug tends to be one or two steps ahead of us. Today, I understand that mutant forms of Malaria and Dengue are in existence where they've never been known to be. Studies have observed highly malarial-prone regions to gained natural resistance to particular strains - which there are a number. People might fall ill two dozen times in there lifetime without great setbacks. Dengue is approached different, as it's properties are not reoccurring from the same strain, but affected from separate instances. Naturally, prevention is key.

I posted a thread about Dengue fever a few years ago , it starts with cold and flue type symptoms, it leaves you with no strength for months, it makes you lethargic, People just stop eating which makes the situation worse, I would advise any one who thinks they have it to get checked out ,

My GF had Dengue fever some months back; not to be trifled with. Flu like symptoms (as per above) + some severe body aches; she had legs that ached all the time. Depressed appetite and tiredness. If you suspect you have it get checked; symptoms present in varying degrees and you might actually feel better one day and rotten the next. Take care.

Hasn't anybody heard of 'talking'?

For example, "I'm hot."

Topic is about body language, Professor

But rarely do we stay on topic do we?

If too hot to sleep cuddled up my better half somehow always ensures she has a hand, foot or knee touching me somewhere. Guess I'm safe for now.

Or maybe she wants to make sure I don't disappear in the night . . . .

...the ongoing and predictable redundancies. Done to death.

Agreed . . . . though some of us should really get out some more and have some real interaction; not sit behind a keyboard and find it too meaningful.

EDIT: and that includes yours truly

....hmmmm. Seems to be an unsavory and instinctive competitive pettiness developing amongst some throughout this thread. If that's the case......my Mother can whip yours!

And my aunt is a retired nurse . . . . she has a great ointment for nappy rash; come see her after

How would you know she had an orgasm?

He doesn't, as he confuses their acting for reality...

I can tell with the few ladies I'm with on a regular basis, but I can also get fooled into thinking a woman HASN'T had an orgasm when she actually has. No two women are the same. I also realize there are a lot of good actesses out there. But, when you know each other fairly well and are honest with each other in all other things then there isn't any reason to fake anything.

Some conversation a way back with an ex GF who was in a profession that I wouldn't be able to dispute the facts about reckons the signs are some of the following in no particular order and to a varying degree:

Flushed upper chest/neck area or large red spot

Can't talk when it happens, only moan/groan

Mouth and lips dry

Muscle contractions try to "expel" you

Body contracts not unlike an epileptic convulsion

Perhaps ask the wife if she concurs with some of them?

I go for any Thai girl that can converse further then, hello sexy guy, where you come from.

I guess Thai women like money, so they want to marry a bank.

+1?

Never met one who doesn't.

I like thai food, so I thought I may as well have a thai chef.

And if she can give a great massage; even better.

Got tired of the women in western countries competing with me for everything . . . . The last one got half of everything and contributed nothing

This is going to hurt Thailand again.

I think there's a lot that Thais put up with that we farang (falang; flang) won't.

And I agree I to am not keen on trips with working groups of Thais. But that's because I like doing things alone or with just my GF. As farang I don't get invited because it seems they would spare me because they know I don't like it.

I think the above sums up most of the Thai bashers and negative contributors on TV and other forums. Else why would you live in a country whose systems and people you hate so much?

You dont have to hate a country to complain about certain aspects of it. I like Thailand a lot but there are enough bad / crazy things too.

I fully agree.

There is no simple 'black & white' in this situation.

Agreed. All is not paradise in LOS. Though I was referring to some posters (hence "most Thai bashers and . . .") who only complain about things in Thailand. Unless you're stuck there on a subsistence pension form your home country (like elsewhere mentioned on this forum) why stay there?

Everyone has the right to complain but some people just abuse that right.

a very broad topic, here's one example/scenario

we had a neighbour, turned 75 last year. At 70 he had come here on holiday with another older male friend. You can join the dots from here . . . met woman half his age . . . returned to UK, left his wife of 40+ years . . . spends 3.5m on a villa on 30yr lease to 'lady' . . . . 4 yrs later cash is short as exchange rate have hit his pension (sole income) . . . . lady leaves him for another foreign gentleman. He can't sell the house, can't return 'home' as family wife/adult children want nothing to do with him. The Thai lady will get the house, contents, vehicles when he dies.

So as a result we have an extremely angry man who takes every opportunity to tell anyone who will listen . . . "They HATE us, they all f***ing HATE us". He lives his days out in solitary bitterness.

No more capitals, but he hates everything here, the people, the food, the drivers, the tv . . . .everything! but is basically trapped and will die here.

I imagine this scenario has happened many thousands of times in Thailand.

For me, I love it here. I won't by property here - don't see the point, maybe one day I'll move to another country but now have no plans beyond dinner tonight.

Not a bad way to be!

I think the above sums up most of the Thai bashers and negative contributors on TV and other forums. Else why would you live in a country whose systems and people you hate so much?

Yea I tried this last year.

My GF said that Thais don't really like it because it ain't too healthy. Not sure

Generally I give everyone the benefit of the doubt until you give me reason to avoid you. Hey; I'm a nice guy :-) However; reading some of the Thai bashing and negative drivel has made me wary of some of the people on this forum (and some others too). I also think that some people who are wary of all others are the type that everyone else should be wary of.

Some of you lot need to get out more. Especially the ones who think women don't like porn, don't have orgasms and don't do casual flings. Jeez...

Very true that . . . . Some guys judge women by their own yard stick; and if they themselves are not a shining star they label all women as the same. Get out and meet different women from all walks of life; no two are the same.

I walked into the wrong room. There stood a nun with a whip and black stockings. Someone here has an avatar like what I saw. She asked me if I wanted a vegetable enema. I said NO! She told me vegetables were good for my health. As I ran out the door she chased me with her whip. This was not in Thailand.

Oh man that got me LMAO!

According to some of the views here: when I used to do some impressive chores around the house or came home with a present , my ex would reward me handsomely with some nookie. Glad I got rid of her; turns out she was a prostitute!

She drove me to that BG!

And you came to that conclusion by finding presents in the cupboard from 10 other guys right?....................lucky escape indeed......

So you were one of them? Dirty dog! Thanks for helping me escape; I'll buy ya a beer

didn't ever leave a present........my "sparkling personality and inherent sexiness" did the trick............and....you don't owe me a beer........ I think I already enjoyed enough of your cold beers.....thanks.....

Then you've disproved some of the theories here cause I'm a millionaire and she didn't stay with the money. You're an ingrate for not leaving a present for the lass!

Right you owe me some beers. I'll PM you my soi/bar location. Look for the cutie standing next to the ugly farang. She's NOT a prostitute!

According to some of the views here: when I used to do some impressive chores around the house or came home with a present , my ex would reward me handsomely with some nookie. Glad I got rid of her; turns out she was a prostitute!

She drove me to that BG!

And you came to that conclusion by finding presents in the cupboard from 10 other guys right?....................lucky escape indeed......

So you were one of them? Dirty dog! Thanks for helping me escape; I'll buy ya a beer

According to some of the views here: when I used to do some impressive chores around the house or came home with a present , my ex would reward me handsomely with some nookie. Glad I got rid of her; turns out she was a prostitute!

She drove me to that BG!