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On 1/11/2021 at 3:40 AM, thoongfoned said:

birds,flies, and rats could bring asf into your area.

did read about a vaccine that was in the final stages of testing about this time last year, but with this covid ....maybe on a back burner at the mo.

https://www.thepigsite.com/news/2020/11/vietnam-hints-at-asf-vaccine-progress

On 1/4/2021 at 8:19 AM, Mobileroadie said:

Howdy folks... ???? I'm interested in getting a couple of wrinkly faced "Meishan" piglets for the homestead. Has anyone in this forum ever heard of them and know where they can be purchased or have a contact in Thailand?.... ????  Cheers-- ????

Sorry, don't know, but you should probably wait until there is a vaccine for ASF before you invest. Official, Thailand don't have ASF, but for real, there is so many small and medium size farm being wiped out from ASF in Thailand. The government call it "Sever form of PRRS", but from those that have sent sample to lab for analyse, the result is ASF.

1 hour ago, IsaanAussie said:

The suggestion of having a meeting with all involved is a great one. Have all your documents and permits in order and think hard about paying them off before hand.

We have been in contact but they just want us to get ride of the smell or close. The smell is just a problem when the wind is in there direction, in other case, no problem.

We pay tax to the local office but have not ask or talked about any environment taxes. It also turn out that we have a building that is not registered (with blueprint). To fix that it cost like 30.000 bath. Maybe that will help ????

I need your advice. We have a neighbor who lives a few hundred meters away who has opened a swimming pool facility. They complain about the smell from the farm. Now the municipality of Phi Mai has contacted us and wants us to take action. What can we do? What are our rights? The farm has been around for 20 years and is run as a Limited company with all taxes paid. 

Invest in Bio-gas require land and a lot of money. Adding EM to the drinking water helps a bit.

For me it sounds stupid to open such a business so close to a pig farm. What do they expects.

If anyone have good links to Bio-gas sites in Thailand, please post them to me.

How should we proceed?

Guys, i need some information.

When pig raiser buying piglets (big farms). How many percent can they expect to die, get sick or other kind of problem so they need to be sold in advance.

I have heard of 3 - 5%.

Normally, less than 5 each month on a total of 400 - 450 piglets. Some piglets get sick but use to recover in a week or so.

They enter nursery at 5 - 8 kg (21 - 28 days) depending on how badly we need the farrowing crate.

We don't raise any piglets by our-self. All are sold. Mostly at a size of 16 - 20 kg. Some customer want 20 - 25 kg.

At 20 kg ++, its easier to discover piglets at lower quality or other defections. Many pig raiser gambling by buying them at 7 - 8 kg.

At that size, you can not see who is good and bad. They make a few hundred bath extra per piglets but they also get higher mortality rate and piglets with slow grow.

And when they discover that they did not make so much money or even worse, loose money, They start blame the farm where piglets come from.

When weaning at 7 - 8 kg:

12 kg - 42 days (+2 weeks)

16 kg - 49 days (+3 weeks)

20 kg - 56 days (+4 weeks)

25 kg - 63 days (+5 weeks)

Add another week if weaning at 5- 6 kg.

Pig porn from our nursery. 16 room where each room is 280x460 cm.

We dont raise finisher but still we have to keep some odd piglets. Last week price in PhiMai, not far away from Buriram, we got 70 bath (76 to wedding). Is Buriram in a zone where it is hard to move pigs? 60 bath is ridiculous low, now when it is so hard to find pigs.

hi guys,

Prices on pigs is going very well in our way this time. Does anyone have a prognoses or forecast for the future. It can't continue up forever. I have heard people talking about 90-100 bath to Song kran. I have no clue how much pigs exist in market at the moment and have no forecast either. Please share your best guess.

Larger farms use to use E-Wap as a kind of air-conditioning in the barns. That's why som farm use to report a better FCR than others.

https://www.komchadluek.net/news/scoop/392943

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Hi,

Have you guys any information regarding pig market and special piglets. Piglets prices is down to 1400. For me it is so strange. We use to have problem to find customer but the last two months, we got so many new requests. Not so much from villages farmers. Mostly 40 and up to 1800 piglets. Last week we sold 160 piglets to rayon, like 400 km away. They all talk about how hard it is to find piglets now when many farms closed down there business.

Price is reported weekly per region. And the price is still up for negotiation.

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From my understanding there is two groups of raiser in Thailand at the moment. One that think ASF will hit us very hard and therefor selling out and stop farming. And another that don't think it will be a problem and sees an opportunity to make a good piece of money when the price raise again.

My biggest concern is animals like cats and dogs, who can enter the farm without our knowledge.

Think of what your workers bring to eat at the farm for lunch. ASF bacterial is hard to kill, even with high temperature and long time.

Anyone know latest price for old sow?

Be aware. Even if you give your pigs a vaccine, it does not mean you have a 100% protection. If the concentration of infected materiel is too high, the vaccine will not be protected.

Just to clarify. It is 3 vaccine in one shot. PRRS, Circo, Mycoplasma. You will need FMD as well as CSF. All together use to cost about 200/piglet. With 3 in 1 shot, you will get down to 150-160.

My experience from food sells men is that they do side businesses. They use company channels to sell your pigs as promised but at a lower price than it should be so they can make there cut.

Our feed dealer here in phimai (80km north of Korat) buy back at 59 bath/kg. Time for you to find yourself a new feed dealer.

100 kg pigs in Korat is 62 bath/kg (sold 30 in the beginning of the week direct to butcher).

It is all about your pigs. If they are fat or the meat is not red enough, you will get lower price.

If you go through a middleman, you will lose 3 - 5 bath/kg.

FYI, we manage to sell at 59 bath until next budda day.

Any info regarding price changes this budda day? Or a link to a web page.

It is just around 55 pigs but it is not about what is "quite ok", rather correct price. We need to know if we get rip by our feed dealer.

55 pigs á 200 bath = 11.000 bath going in someone else pocket. I prefer into mine pocket.

3 minutes ago, Robert24 said:

Local price is between 53-55 baht. Where are you based?

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North of Korat. A week ago we sell at 55 to buyers in korat and 57 local. Now when CP have raise its base price from 48 to 50 and many regions also raise there price. Our buyer still tell us that it is no change in price. I don't know what to think.