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On 4/20/2020 at 2:19 PM, gamesgplayemail said:

What about nok air ?

 

Nok Air is the only airline that has never stopped flying at least to Chiang mai. One flight a day to DMK at the moment. Thai Vietjet has missed the odd day but is generally been a single daily flight also.

2000 baht came through about 2 weeks ago, about 2 weeks after applying for it. Chiang Mai city 50200 if the district has anything to do with it?

Its a very cheap price but also very similar to low fares that Thomas Cook(Condor) offers when flights are not very full. I booked Las Vegas to Manchester this time last year for GBP99 one way. At the same time that had Orlando Manchester for GBP49 one way. If the German government is operating these flight at cost how much extra will they add on, another USD110? Maybe when the dust settles it will be written off within the billions and that are being thrown at the pandemic.

I did read somewhere that for british citizens on these flights the German government directly bills the UK government for the repatriation so possibly if you are British there will be no further to pay?

09 April BKK-FRA is available right now at 21:31 Bangkok time Sat 04 April.

Total cost is USD109.99 incl 20kg, hand luggage, meals and seat back entertainment.

Condor flights earlier this morning BKK-FRA one way 06 April USD109.99.  

Only 5 flights today assuming none are cancelled, all to BKK. Bangkok Airways 2, Thai Vietjet 2, Thai Smile 1. I don't know how far you would have to go back to when Chiang Mai only had 5 flights a day, 1970 or earlier 60's 50's ? 

As of 14:39 nine seats left at USD109.99 departing 04APR20. Thats a bargain. However if you are worried about the virus situation, Thailand seems a lot better than Germany and especially the UK. With so little testing in the UK the real numbers must be huge and that seems to be supported by the amount of people who arrive in Singapore and Hong Kong from the UK and immediately test positive for the virus. 

4 minutes ago, stouricks said:

They have offered me Bht 35,000 of a Bht 45,000 ticket, so Bht 10,000 fee to cancel.

If your situation is flexible and you could imagine flying in July, Sept, October ? or some point in the future keep the ticket and use it then. You will have to date change it with Emirates when things return to normal. I don't think you will be able fly in April. 

To get a more accurate feel for the total number of people with corona you could multiply each countries official numbers by 20 (or thereabouts) 

The UK is only testing people at hospitals who arrive sick with corona. Doctors and nurses who develop mild forms of corona don't get tested! they are told to self isolate at home. If 5% of corona infected people get it bad enough to visit a hospital, they have trouble breathing etc, the other 95% are laid up at home feeling ill but not serious enough for them to go to hospital. These people are untested and not represented in the stats. So...

UK infections 14543 as of 27 Mar . Multiply by 20 .  Total 290,860 infections approx/ guesstimate? 

This back on an envelope guesstimate might be accurate for a lot of countries like China. Do you multiply by 20 or 18? or 10 for countries that free health care (more people will go to hospital when its free) or 20 just for countries that you have to pay for healthcare where more people will stay at home because they can't afford the hospital bill or delay it for as long as possible?

The numbers are calculated differently all over the world. Some countries test more and have "more" infections. Some countries test less or not at all like Myanmar and "no" infections. The UK counts corona deaths that occur at hospitals. The people who have died at home are not included in the stats as a corona death. 

However China locked down Wuhan and surrounding areas tightly early on. The USA isn't doing any of this. New York is suffering hard with the virus and New Yorkers are free to fly anywhere in the USA taking the virus with them. This was stopped very quickly in Wuhan. 

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/03/25/still-no-health-screenings-at-orlando-airport-for-new-york-area-arrivals-after-governors-order/

Smart move it may actually help some medical staff who don't live local and create some goodwill which could be useful when he is dealing with the authorities.

13 hours ago, new2here said:

Here’s one thing that I have told my friends..

 

While a “cash” refund is always good, in SOME cases, taking their rebooking option MIGHT be as good or even better...
 

I am assuming that the airline is still around - and for the moment, I don’t think airlines like BA, Qatar, United or Thai are in any real risk is flat out disappearing/being liquidated.

 

the reason I think the rebooking MIGHT be good is IF they allow you to rebook later - and you KNOW you need to travel - lets say for example in October or something, so long as they don’t impose a change fee (which I highly doubt anyone is really doing) BUT ALSO doesn’t charge a fare differential IF your new October booking price is higher than your current flight cost... then you could use that rebooking alternative as a means to essentially hedge against higher prices.

 

True, when the market for air travel does come back, I wouldn’t be surprised to see discounts to spur demand... but... you never know..

 

so, the ability to rebook (and assuming there is no fee to do so and no fare differential charged) might be a decent way to hedge against higher fares or even availability.

 

just a thought.

Thats exactly what i would do if holding a valid ticket with Emirates, Qatar, BA etc. When the services resume and the flights are up and running again i would contact the airline and get it date changed to a suitable date. I wouldn't be expecting to pay anything. Date change fees, booking class restrictions are normally waived in extraordinary situations like this. 

    If i was booked on a lesser airline that isn't backed by a national government or sitting on a £8 billion pound cash pile like BA i would want a cash refund. A voucher with Norwegian may be worthless.

2 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said:

Oman Air just suspended all operations apart from one internal route I believe.. Have a return to U.K booked for 3rd May and hoping to get either free rebook or full refund.. No reply from them yet !! 

I would just do the date change for the future but at this point they don't know themselves when flights will resume so you probably wont be able to sort it out until flights resume in a month or two? 

On 3/23/2020 at 5:23 PM, SERGERAMOS said:

I have a return flight with Qatar on the 21st of April I wanted to change my flight to an earlier date so I could get back to the uk Qatar were quoting £1400 robbing sods so booked a £320 flight with emirates yesterday for the 1st of April now they are not flying both flights were booked with the airlines direct also booked a Thai smile flight to bangkok and a train ticket for when I got back to the uk think I've been shafted from all angles any advice anyone 

If Qatar Airways are offering free of charge date changes due the corona situation how exactly did changing to an earlier date cost £1400? They normally offer you any flight that has seats. Or were you upgrading to Business from economy? 

I cycled across the old city yesterday and today. Both times i only saw two farang tourists. And possibly two thai tourists going into Chedi Luang, they might have been locals. I stopped at the entrance looked in and there was nobody there except the guards at the gate. Very quiet all over. Some shops and businesses shuttered. Feels like something bad is coming.

Big improvement late this afternoon when a southerly wind started blowing. I could just see Mae On from the city 30 km's away.

You need to talk to Thai Airways and they will give you the options. You need the booking reference handy. Different dates will be offered even a different airline if they have stoped flying. It should be free of charge.

Anyone who is booked to fly home over next few weeks but would like to fly earlier can if there are seats. You don't have to wait. If you can't get through on the phone and its not too hard to go to BKK airport. Go to the airport a 4 or 5 hours before the next flight is due to depart. Go to the ticket desk and they can put you on the next flight if there are seats. Say you were flying Qatar Airways to Manchester but they say Manchester is full, ask about Birmingham, LHR, Gatwick, Edinburgh. Most airlines if not all of them are offering free of charge date changes and reroutes. Even if they are not they can do whatever sorts the problem when you are stood in front of them at the airport. Loads of 500 to 1000 baht hotels close to the airport if cant go same day. Magic Food Court on the basement level sells thai food at normal prices.

2 hours ago, joskeshake said:

I was booked for 04-05-2020 to go to Belgium with Emirates, but this morning they cancelled my flight.Thats nearly about 7 weeks from now.

Emirates are combining their flights all over. Two empty flights into one half full flight or whatever works. If they have not said "all flights are suspended to Brussels as of  ??MARCH2020" you will be changing to a flight the day before , the day after, 12 hours later or whatever. Also if they do stop flying to Belgium they might keep flights to Paris or Amsterdam and you can get rerouted. Nobody knows really what will be happing 7 days from now so 7 weeks is even more of an unknown.

The website you have linked lists a lot of scheduled chinese flights that would normally operate but have now suspended their service. Air China from Beijing stopped about a month ago. 

I don't know what the actual percentage drop is in passengers. Normally there are 20-25 flights da day to China, Hong Kong and Macau. A few weeks ago i noticed that had dropped to 4 or 5. Yesterday the was 2 flights one to Hk and and one to Jinhong. Eva to Taipei is still operating with a smaller aircraft. In January there were 4 Korean flights a day these have stopped now. Still plenty of flight to Bangkok and domestic Thailand but they are probably nowhere near full. Qatar are stilling flying in with a Dreamliner, i cant imagine there are many passengers