yesterday

A LOT of people BSing here, im my opinion

Opinion??

You should keep to yourself since it doesn't compliment this thread.

If the figures that have been posted are accurate then it seems that RAM is now cheaper than Sripat (at least the room rate).

A big IF

We only have a few examples from posters who may be shareholders for all we know. Ram's reputation won't be swayed by the comments of a few

This thread is not doing Ram any favours but they dont realise that

one man's trash is another man's pleasured treasure.

Actually you said that you had had tests etc DONE ( past tense ) at Ram and that THEY ( ie the same tests etc ) were the same or cheaper.

Exactly, they were the same price or cheaper (past tense). I had done them already, but I did some more at Ram (because I was tired of all the waiting at Sripat) and did not have to wait long at all - as always.

When i first had my consult on my hand I had arranged for an appointment at a particular Time with Dr PRechar at Sriphat, they had lost the appointment and I had to wait 4 hours, at RAM the wait was under 15 minutes to see him. You cannot buy back that time Sriphat wasted.

The filthy surroundings are included in the Sriphat price!!

Actually you said that you had had tests etc DONE ( past tense ) at Ram and that THEY ( ie the same tests etc ) were the same or cheaper.

Exactly, they were the same price or cheaper (past tense). I had done them already, but I did some more at Ram (because I was tired of all the waiting at Sripat) and did not have to wait long at all - as always.

"some more"

Either the story is now changing or you need to brush up on your English grammar. Probably both.

What is it with you and your constant attacking. I suppose YOU calling someone a crusader is faintly amusing. Got it from a book did you?

Ram clean nice,the other choice third world with so much filth and many many doctors that are not the cream of crop .

Ram hires the cream from what CM has to offer..

crowds and filth or clean upscale.... tough to figure out for some???

You make Thai visa sad ,very sad with this absurb rant.

Khun Orang37,

You supply many good pts, my only issue is your reference to WE WE WE- who you speaking for- THE WORLD...

Many of us (General in sense) admire the Sly S, Claud Van damme's, etc- as they are the best in their field... They are entertainers- sure and some of the biggest names in the world. I doubt they have no brains as they built their empires from nothing. Sly wrote Rocky and starred in it to make his name.

To a lesser extent Claude has wrote and directed- so just because you have muscles does not mean you are stupid. Many of us hitting the gyms to enhance our bodies will disagree. Mind and body needs to be active always- once one stops then it will slowly die IMO.

Anyway the rich in fish- I am an advocate....Plus many other points you make are very good. Except implying muscles = dumb.

Cheers Jay :jap:

Dear org.~.37,

I do enjoy your writting but not this particular thread.

What are you doing? You are all over the map on this one my friend . Very ,very defensive .Why?

Bob wrote, "don't criticise what you don't understand."

The post was about testosterone and where to get it . andriol testicaps 40mg blue box -main macro 750 baht for a months supply ,this andrial is gel caps that by passes the liver works thru the lymph glands . It works very well.

Do try hard not to write a book back but instead use the precious energy to go get well.

Worrying about healthy men with better bodies than yourself solves nothing.Just make an effort ,spend a little money to get the help you need , get healthy and enjoy yourself more.

~

How delightful it would be to find a thread that follows the OP's intent without all the ridiculous comments!

That is all too rare, howerever - so rare that I have never seen it happen. Has a thought ever been given to

the original poster having the right to moderate their own thread?

Since I rarely go to town except when necessary, most of my experimenting is very efficiently delivered by Meals on Wheels.

Bake and Bite's Turkey sandwich w/mayo and cranberry sauce is to DIE for and their warm potato salad is a favorite as well.

Miguel's Chicken Taco Salad is excellent, as is their coleslaw, but consistency is a very real problem.

The salad varies from a meal to a shell full of shredded lettuce and not much more than a chicken/bean paste at the bottom

and their coleslaw goes from a nice amount of goodness to a tiny 3-tablespoon plastic container with a false bottom.

Subway is okay once in a while (I know, I know, less than gourmet) but, again, consistency is a BIG problem.

I have yet to find a burger in CM better than the old BK Cheese Whopper but they don't deal with Meals/Wheels and I rarely want one anyway..

Thanks for this thread but farts and foolishness are already making it boring indeed to read...

~

your list of foods /places seems off based but taste is so very subjective! I have eaten those exact items you mentioned and for me they are a pass when i eat at those places.

But again some i know well people like oily pizza they just enjoy greasy texture in their mouths while some people don't and so on...so take all this with a grain of salt !

maybe folly and foolishness is needed here some!!

I love CM. Then again I'm not Russian, Chinese or Indian. Many Europeans are moving on to other pastures. Not sure the hotel business in CM is going to be expanding anytime soon.

i love Cm too but when i tell friends with money over seas about CM they always say Hum.... what is there to do there? i have to hesitate then," play golf!" they look at me and say hel_l we can do that anywhere and most likely better just about anywhere else..

Many people world wide think beaches ,the coast when thinking about vacations . Regardless i love CM . Certainly there are much better places in Thailand for over all fun than CM .

Why don't the police just get on - apprehend the most recent red perpetrators and then worry about the sour case against the yellows? Or is the deal, let two years lapse then go after the reds? Or are the BiB only running two years behind in investigation in their work load? Perhaps if they were reassigned from controlling (screwing up) traffic jams by manually controlling traffic lights (unbelievably stupid), or soliciting bribes from passing motorists, everything could move forward in a timely manner. It seems this is just more politicking and trying to justify existence to show 'something' is being done.

Actually it would seem they are running more than three years behind as they are just now getting around to processing the case against the Red Leaders for their violent riot in July 2007 that injured hundreds.

Could that be because charges weren't even filed against the reds for this until 2 months ago? I wonder why they waited so long?

Is it so the yellows could say hey look the reds have a longer outstanding case than us? mmmmm could be!!

This is Thailand .

The key is really the level of testosterone and it's ratio to estrogen.

There are people like bodybuilders that have abused testosterone and other steroids and had very negative effects but I don't think it fair to malign efforts to maintain an optimal level.

It's kind of like saying one should never drink alcohol because there are examples of people who have abused it and flown into a drunken rage.

The supplement route is attractive because it provides the building blocks and precursors to naturally allow the body to find optimal levels of given hormones.

Just taking the hormone directly might be appropriate in some medical situations but definitely crude and does not address an underlying issue like pituitary imbalance or dietary issues. Just using a hormone could introduce even more unbalance to the endocrine system.

Even relying on medical screening parameters is suspect because by the time the medical establishment considers a test parameter to be "dangerous" then it can often be fairly progressed disease condition.

well stated ! This is my concern with ~O.37 since his Thai doctor told him he was low but O.K. this means no doubt he is sick man once you consider what his free testosterone level is now combined with his estridiol hormones levels. just not good for long,happy rested life .

Proper homone balance is no mystery now and it is the starting point for feeling great ,getting stronger and living longer , anti-aging medicene .

i do not agree with the above statement taking hormone directly .... is crude this is misinformation since once men are in advanced age testosterone replacement therapy which always includes addressing estridiol levels is the only route to health and happiness. The suppliment route is a complete waste of money,time and your health .Someone listed a sale pitch above,run! dinve if you have a real problem this will not correct anything but will give the chap selling this over priced stuff some extra beer money.

. Save your cash and get the real deal,get what the body lacks and needs to be healthy.

yesterday

LEF115964.pdf

Sawasdee Khrup fellow aging human meat-packages,

We would have qualified "human" with "male human," but we recently just met an older woman who's really into HGH and other "enhancers."

It seems "fair" to us that Khun BillR responded in some detail to being asked by Khun CobraSnakeNeckTie: "Tell us about these testosterone boosters and how they work. Creatine?"

And we sent Khun BillR a PM asking him for links to what appear to be the quotes in his response (denoted by asterisks), to which we've received no reply listing sources.

ioho, Khun BillR would have both been more on-topic, and promoted his business (which seems quite justified in this case) more effectively, by sharing more information about how these enhancers, as Khun CSNT asked, work, or by posting some links, as we requested, to sources (hopefully scientific in the clinical medical sense).

However, we ain't writing this to rag on Khun BillR who we look forward to, when we can afford it, possibly visiting in Phuket, and getting a consultation from, and/or ordering some supplements from. He's probably very, very busy, and we do NOT think he deserved the responses posted here that kind of have the innuendo that he's "selling snake oil."

Also, seem to us, this possible "alternative wisdom" in what you might loosely called the body-building or life extension "arenas," or "communities," may contain a great deal of hard-won practical or heuristic knowledge in the cumulative experiences of someone like Khun BillR, who, we assume, has been involved with this intensely for years. Such knowledge may not lend itself to short explanations.

We think that, as the consumers of services and or medications, it is our responsibility to perform "due diligence" in selecting practitioners, looking at their credentials, mainstream and alternative, seeking out stories from people who've used their services, etc.

Finally, we'd like to say that it is our duo-personal opinion that anyone who self-medicates with hormone modifiers, HGH, etc. without a thorough medical screening first is just plain "nuts."

No one on TV CM, to our knowledge, is qualified to give medical advice. ioho to make statements like "Sustanon will give you all the testo you need" or "HGHs give a good boost- check out Jintropin" is irresponsibile.

Have you ever seen someone using anabolic steroids go from zero-to-sixty in less than one second in terms of becoming violently enraged: we have (it's called 'roid rage').

Have you heard the well documented stories of professional athletes with shrunken testicles, enlarged prostrates, severe heart problems later in life ? We have.

And, while this may seem in contradiction to what we just said, we do believe you have an absolute right to modify your body, or to choose some radical means that increases the quality of your life, as you define it, while perhaps shortening its length. Maybe we can say that because we do not have a family, or children ?

You want to exit mortality, as Dylan Thomas wrote, in the spirit of:

"Do not go gentle into that good night,

Old age should burn and rage at close of day;

Rage, rage against the dying of the light."

IS "that" really up to you ? We could only respond with Bill Clinton's immortal words: "that depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is."

best, ~o:37;

Dear ~o.37 ,After reading your post I had to sign up to reply. I worry about your lack of depth and basic understanding on this current topic of testosterone.

You need to seek medical help since you state "testosterone levels low but o.k. " not o.k.! Your doctor is Thai who does not have a clue about testosterone and certainly it appears nor do you. Here is Thailand the high low scales are quite large ,if they say you are low it is not safe at all.

Seconly, as mentioned above total T and free T you must test both for total really means nothing alone. Quite possibly you have little to no free Testosterone meaning your heart is decaying at accelerated rate as your veins fill with plague .

Be proactive with your health here because ceratinly nobody else will be.

heal yourself .

I enjoy your other post a lot so try to get the needed medical help so you will exist longer so we can enjoy your comments here on TV.

thanks,

yesterday